Donic true carbon inner

[Table10Ice]

Here goes Not a comparison to Appelgren WC 89, bit to a very similar blade Nittaku S-CZ…

Same rubber on both sides, the difference being that on the true carbon inner they brand spanking new where on the S-CZ theybare old, but I remember them when they were new.

- Feel The S-SZ feels softer flexier like it’s holding the ball longer. The true carbon inner feels harder, stiffer and more distinct but not outrageously, still easy to lift underspin. I like the feel of the S-CZ more and that is important to me. But after playing some time with a racket I kind of forget about this so it’s a matter of getting used to suppose

- Gears. The true carbon inner has more.
- Low gear, They are very similar I didn’t notice any difference at all.
- Medium gear. Here the true carbon inner was yielding a slightly lower trajectory (could be because the rubber tackiness is still at its peak) so my blocks stated out long or in the net when I over adjusted.
- High gears, Here the true carbon inner is significantly faster, it’s much easier to hit fast vast balls from far away even though the rubbers are still new.

- Slow spin S-CZ > true carbon inner
- Medium son S-CZ ~ true carbon inner
- Power spin S-CZ < true carbon inner

Bottom line, I can confidently say that The True carbon inner is a slightly more offensive blade than S-CZ.

Cheers
L-zr

Thank you, great review!

 

[Marvinn8686]

Here goes Not a comparison to Appelgren WC 89, bit to a very similar blade Nittaku S-CZ…

Same rubber on both sides, the difference being that on the true carbon inner they brand spanking new where on the S-CZ theybare old, but I remember them when they were new.

- Feel The S-SZ feels softer flexier like it’s holding the ball longer. The true carbon inner feels harder, stiffer and more distinct but not outrageously, still easy to lift underspin. I like the feel of the S-CZ more and that is important to me. But after playing some time with a racket I kind of forget about this so it’s a matter of getting used to suppose

- Gears. The true carbon inner has more.
- Low gear, They are very similar I didn’t notice any difference at all.
- Medium gear. Here the true carbon inner was yielding a slightly lower trajectory (could be because the rubber tackiness is still at its peak) so my blocks stated out long or in the net when I over adjusted.
- High gears, Here the true carbon inner is significantly faster, it’s much easier to hit fast vast balls from far away even though the rubbers are still new.

- Slow spin S-CZ > true carbon inner
- Medium son S-CZ ~ true carbon inner
- Power spin S-CZ < true carbon inner

Bottom line, I can confidently say that The True carbon inner is a slightly more offensive blade than S-CZ.

Cheers
L-zr

I am a happy owner of Donic True Carbon Inner, but nonetheless I am considering buying a Nittaku S-CZ. Can you say anything about the FL handle? I prefer ST or FL handles of at least medium thickness. In example Yasaka, Sanwei, Stuor I see as "thin" handles, while Yinhe FL are perfect and Donic/Butterfly fine. I have a chance to buy reasonably priced Nittaku S-CZ with FL handle, but I am afraid of it being at the end one of this thin ones.

 

[Lazer]

I am a happy owner of Donic True Carbon Inner, but nonetheless I am considering buying a Nittaku S-CZ. Can you say anything about the FL handle? I prefer ST or FL handles of at least medium thickness. In example Yasaka, Sanwei, Stuor I see as "thin" handles, while Yinhe FL are perfect and Donic/Butterfly fine. I have a chance to buy reasonably priced Nittaku S-CZ with FL handle, but I am afraid of it being at the end one of this thin ones.

I only got FL handles…
The S-CZ is rounder and less flared than The true carbon inner. It is also shorter and to me it feels a little thicker. I got grip tape on both so I am not 100% sure. The entire S-CZ is also a little smaller …

Cheees
L-zr

Edit: I should say I switched to a blade with thicker handle.

 

[king_pong]

Hi Banda did not use spruce rather pine from the north which is much more elastic and stronger than spruce. Woodhouse that produced/produce many blades for both donic and yasaka use pine instead of spruce. That is why dicon and waldner offensive and also ma lin extra offensive have their offensive and excellent looping features

S2000, how did you come to learn this about the Banda Waldners (and the Extra Offensives)? Just curious, as I also play a JO wood blade (an old Donic one). The Bandas were manufactured in Eskilstuna, while the Donics were made at Tranås, correct?

 

[S2000]

S2000, how did you come to learn this about the Banda Waldners (and the Extra Offensives)? Just curious, as I also play a JO wood blade (an old Donic one). The Bandas were manufactured in Eskilstuna, while the Donics were made at Tranås, correct?

Hi - I started again playing table tennis a bit more than a year after a let's prolonged hiathus. Being Swedish I for sentimental reasons tested Waldner Offensive but also because the allround woods was to my liking too slow. The playing style of the Stone Age was when smashing with a flip included and I thought that this would fit with the longer blade. Also, I have always been fascinated by the feeling Waldner had so why not try it out. For me this was a win since I have rather broad hands and Waldner Offensive in anatomic grip was really a hit for me combined with the small wings. I like the racket a bit loose in my hand so the small wings are really good for me.

The YMLEO was the next step in speed. I found that for both these two blades there is an extra spring from the pine - northern pine being not a hard wood but the next best. I need though to sand the wings here substantially to have a decent handle for my hand.

Yes you are right - Banda was manufactured in Eskilstuna. The owner purchased Stiga and moved the manufacturing of Stiga from Tranås to Eskilstuna. Exactly how it played out I am not quite sure but the Tranås factory survived and has been producing blades for a number of different brands. Donic became important in the beginning because by some reason Waldner did not stay with Banda/Stiga. Waldner was sponsored from quite young age by Banda. The name Banda came from the owner surname Bandhage. There is some sad story there why he went to Donic. Therefore, the old Banda style was adopted by Donic.
The factory has also been producing blades for Yasaka for quite some time. I do not know when that started. I also think there was some cooperation with Nittaku and for sure some other brands European and also AVX Avalox.

Anyhow, I really enjoy this form for the blade. It fits my loose playing style. I have also the Waldner Ultra Carbon but I like it less. Not because of the carbon but top and second layer. I think an offensive Limba, pine carbon, ayous would be a really interesting blade. There was one such from Stiga. Their handles are though too thin for me.