Grooved stroke without realising?

[Ndragon]

Now this might sound obvious but I am just not sure about my conclusion.

Is it possible that I can be playing with Soft ESN products like Joola Energy Xtra, Nimbus Soft, Nimbus Sound. And switch straight to chinese untuned rubbers BW2, H3, H2 all commercial and in the space of 5-10mins get the hang of it and within a session or 2 playing as good if not better.

Could this be because my bat to ball contact without practising or realising somehow has become accustomed to chinese rubbers?

Another thing to give it away maybe is I can hardly get a click sound from the ESN. If i do then its not too often. Maybe once every 2 or 3 points. except when smashing which is 90% of the time clicking mad.

Before i quit tt i only had coaching once properly and the coach taught me a very good typical european stroke which made me get massive click sounds almost every shot of each point. Since i quit and come back i have noticed the above.

 

[YosuaYosan]

The dwell time in softer rubbers could improve your game's control, and I think the way Chinese rubbers need the ball to be dipped is compatible with soft rubber play..
However thats my opinion

 

[Reiin]

Now this might sound obvious but I am just not sure about my conclusion.

Is it possible that I can be playing with Soft ESN products like Joola Energy Xtra, Nimbus Soft, Nimbus Sound. And switch straight to chinese untuned rubbers BW2, H3, H2 all commercial and in the space of 5-10mins get the hang of it and within a session or 2 playing as good if not better.

Could this be because my bat to ball contact without practising or realising somehow has become accustomed to chinese rubbers?

Another thing to give it away maybe is I can hardly get a click sound from the ESN. If i do then its not too often. Maybe once every 2 or 3 points. except when smashing which is 90% of the time clicking mad.

Before i quit tt i only had coaching once properly and the coach taught me a very good typical european stroke which made me get massive click sounds almost every shot of each point. Since i quit and come back i have noticed the above.

in 5-10 minutes you won't get the hang of it and after couple of sessions you won't have better game. After a whole season you will get used to it, maybe. The chinese untuned rubbers are really hard and difficult to play with, not fast unless you use all of your power in EVERY stroke. Much easier to play with euro-rubbers if you want speed, chinese rubbers are really good at the short game and service.

And i think you got it wrong with the ESN-rubbers - Tibhar is not making their rubbers at the ESN factory with the Tensor technology, maybe that is why you don't get the clicky sound when you play with Genius rubbers.

 

[YosuaYosan]

To get things straight, Tensor is a trademark (Tensor™)..
Tibhar got their own tensioned rubber line --> D.Tecs for example..

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

It is possible that the way you play is just naturally in line with how you would need to play when you use Chinese rubbers.

I notice that when ever I change my equipment, it takes a little while to get used to it and then, when I am used to it, what ever I have, provided that it is decent quality, is fine. However, I also notice, that every so often I will try something that is very different than what I am currently using, but somehow my way of playing clicks with that kind of equipment and I do not need to take any real time to get used to it.

When I first used a Clipper, I was using a fast carbon blade and I had picked up lots of blades that were not as fast that I did not like as much as what I had. When I picked up the Clipper, everything in my game told me that that was the right wood for me. At some point I slowed things down but was using blades with the same wood composition as a Clipper (Limba outer plies and Ayous inner plies). Now I am using a racket that is Hinoki outside, then Limba, then Ayous as the core. It took me a while to get used to how different this Cornilleau blade is from what I had been using but I am now used to it and really like it and can feel the things that this blade can do. However, every time I pick up one of those Stiga blades that is made with Limba as the outer ply and Ayous for the inner plies, I always instantly feel like it is made for me and I do not need any time to get used to one of those blades. Here are examples: the Stiga Energy Wood, Stiga Offensive Evolution, Stiga Tube Allround etc. It does not matter which of those blades I pick up, it will feel good to me and I will not need any time getting used to it.

An interesting outcome of using the Cornilleau Hinotek though is, I used to pick up Hinoki blades and think, I don't get what all the fuss is about. And some people do make a lot of fuss about how good Hinoki is. Now I know why. Hinoki is a very good wood and once I got used to the blade I am using, if I pick up a Hinoki blade, I instantly can feel what the Hinoki does. If anyone wants to try one of the most amazing blades ever, the Darker Speed 90, which is a one ply Hinoki blade that is 9mm thick, is amazing. They make it in shakehand or penhold. In terms of feel there is not much that can compare. So why don't top pros use it? Breaks easily because it is one ply, and it is heavy because it has to be 9mm thick. So not necessarily the best choice of equipment for real match play but it feels unreal to hit with. And is better for penhold players than for shakehand. Also this blade would take a lot to get used to unless you are already using Hinoki. But once you get used to it...

Anyway, back on subject: So it is possible that most people would end up taking a long time getting used to Chinese rubbers and you might pick them up and feel like they are a perfect fit in spite of the fact that Chinese rubbers are usually hard, tacky and not bouncy and the Euro rubbers you have been using are soft, non-tacky and fairly bouncy. Give the Chinese rubbers a try for a while they might be the best equipment for the way you play.