How do I do RPB?
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just when I thought there was nothing interesting on TTD I have been proven wrong.
listen up blister (brother or sister) penhold takes time to learn. it takes A LOT OF TIME to learn table tennis (whether you play shake or pen) or get good at it.
So yeah if you have not learned TPB then go learn that first then come back to learn RPB
If you know TPB and want to get good at RPB. you are out of luck. unless I see you play I can't say what is wrong. but here are some tips.
1. don't keep your fingers too deep on the racket not too shallow too
2. apply slight pressure on your thumb
3. keep some space between your index finger and thumb
4. hit slowly while learning don't rush and try to hit flicks and backhand loops.
5. don't leave your index finger free. apply very little pressure on it to make RPB stable
thank you for following Zh`s penhold guide.
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suggest you to put a video up
otherwise, your result will be the same as just through this question on google and hoping for the best.
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Playing RPB with jpen is difficult because the blade is imbalanced. If you haven't already, try getting a cpen racket.
One thing that helped me learn the muscle memory for RPB is throwing a frisbee. Try getting a frisbee and throwing it as far as you can. You need to be relaxed and whip your arm and wrist. Imagine when playing RPB that you are going to throw your racket like a frisbee. This will help you learn the geometric stability for RPB, as well as the looping motion.
To give better advice, you should post a video.
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I have tried playing penhold the last 4 months and play basically as good as with shakehand.
I feel that the technique is basically the same.
Points to think about:
- do not have the fingers flat out
- make power from using the body and the elbow, not the wrist
- not to heavy racket and make sure your fingers are not sliding on the backhand side
- learn blocking first, then counter and last topspin
- Need to press the thumb to open the racket, difficult in the beginning if the racket is to closed. Also easier with the angle if you get low with the body.
- otherwise i think there are no consensus on with finger you should make pressure with, as long as the racket stays steady.
- Feels easier in my opinion with less head heavy racket
Good luck.
I feel that the technique is basically the same.
Points to think about:
- do not have the fingers flat out
- make power from using the body and the elbow, not the wrist
- not to heavy racket and make sure your fingers are not sliding on the backhand side
- learn blocking first, then counter and last topspin
- Need to press the thumb to open the racket, difficult in the beginning if the racket is to closed. Also easier with the angle if you get low with the body.
- otherwise i think there are no consensus on with finger you should make pressure with, as long as the racket stays steady.
- Feels easier in my opinion with less head heavy racket
Good luck.
I took opposite path: 1 side cpen, rpb cpen, now shakehand
- fingers flat out (xu xin grip) is good for learning make contact with flat hits + block + naturally very open racket angle, downside is smaller hitting area (2/3 less than other rpb grips)
- jpen tpb is also fingers flat out?
- modern rpb penholders all curl their finger to some degree, no more tpb, push with bh rubber feels awkward
- recommend curl finger only after decent flat hits + block with fingers flat out
- rpb sweet spot approximately same area not covered by fingers in xu xin grip
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Everyone's hands are different, have different muscle development, different finger sizes/lengths, different wrist flexibility, and so much more. Out of 100 different penholders, you will find 100 different methods of gripping the racket. The most important thing is finding a grip that works well for you.
There's definitely a tradeoff between fingers being out and the amount of space you have to hit the ball. But many people find that curling their fingers will reduce their control.
There's definitely a tradeoff between fingers being out and the amount of space you have to hit the ball. But many people find that curling their fingers will reduce their control.
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Hello, jpenholder here, I use mostly tpb for my backhand, and have the ability to turn it downwards to get topspin. With a good snap it's quite fast too. My backhand is long pimps, and at first it was almost impossible to rpb with it cause the bat must be open so wide, but I mostly use rpb for chops, especially deep into the backhand, and let a pocket of time to shift and get some forehands. So far I did about 10 over rpb topspin with twidling the bat, and it's quite fast. But, I can't seen to backhand topspin parallel down the line, and need to backhand corner to corner, giving a mobility weakness to can upgrade to a forehand (talking about those ridiculous felix lebrun backhand rallies).
Overall, I've found that if you rpb with inverted rubber, crouch down a bit and have a similar motion to shakehand backhand flick, but open the bat earlier and more of a push forward then pivot off to the side, remember to be relaxed.
For pimps, try to be as high as possible, as there is no arc just flat hit, and this is the only way to get it over the net, other than underspin. A sort of punch motion with a more locked wrise and more body movement from the hip.
Overall, I've found that if you rpb with inverted rubber, crouch down a bit and have a similar motion to shakehand backhand flick, but open the bat earlier and more of a push forward then pivot off to the side, remember to be relaxed.
For pimps, try to be as high as possible, as there is no arc just flat hit, and this is the only way to get it over the net, other than underspin. A sort of punch motion with a more locked wrise and more body movement from the hip.
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About tpb backhand, the thumb is pushed on the cork block and three fingers are straight and stacked on top of one another, for blocks. For backhand topspin and smash, sort of more like wang hao grip with thumb unhooked and middle and ring finger pressed on the back side, and pinky finger stacked on ring finger.
I only curl fingers for serves.
I only curl fingers for serves.
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It's hard, take your time. Do you have a coach? I suggest you listen to him/her.
Tips:
Keep your racket open
relax your arm
don't use your wrist too much (stated by Wang Hao)
the fingers on the back don't really matter, but you should press your thumb more to open up your racket up
Move your body up as youre hitting the ball, gives more spin
good luck bro I believe in you
also, if you really want to develop RPB well, I suggest you go Cpen. I used to have that same Palio Jpen (8603), really stiff lol and I never learned rpb there. If you really want a Jpen RPB, go with those 2 sided jpens.
Tips:
Keep your racket open
relax your arm
don't use your wrist too much (stated by Wang Hao)
the fingers on the back don't really matter, but you should press your thumb more to open up your racket up
Move your body up as youre hitting the ball, gives more spin
good luck bro I believe in you
also, if you really want to develop RPB well, I suggest you go Cpen. I used to have that same Palio Jpen (8603), really stiff lol and I never learned rpb there. If you really want a Jpen RPB, go with those 2 sided jpens.
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