Hurricane 3 vs Hurricane 8 for BH

[Tiz]

Jeon Ji-hee uses H8 on her BH, she actually says that the sponge is Japanese-like so I wonder if she's talking about H8-80.

 

[kindof99]

I had H8-80 37 on a ZJK szlc and it did feel dead after about a month.

 

[Leno]

So I read somewhere, that WCQ and Sun/Chen both H8-20, which is the orange H3 sponge with the H8 surface.
However, I can't find the article anymore.

 

[Robin0910]

So I read somewhere, that WCQ and Sun both H8-20, which is the orange H3 sponge with the H8 surface.
However, I can't find the article anymore.

WCQ currently uses H3 H38

 

[Emin]

How is the H8 topsheet different from the H3 topsheet?

 

[joshmak10]

Is H3 Neo 37 or H8-80 37 better for BH? I plan to boost with one layer of Haifu Seamoon, which one is more durable?

 

[Lazer]

I think H3 is too slow for BH, I would go for H8 or H8-80… Maybe even that’s too slow.

Cheers
L-zr

 

[joshmak10]

I think H3 is too slow for BH, I would go for H8 or H8-80… Maybe even that’s too slow.

Cheers
L-zr

Thanks for the input Lazer, I can’t access H8 but will take a look at H8-80, cheers

 

[U871247]

I remember hearing that Wang Chuqin used hurricane 8 at his bh for a while but then switched to hurricane 3, similar to what the rest of the Chinese team uses. I think Sun Yingsha may be using h8 still on her bh.

How is hurricane 8 different to hurricane 3 for backhand use?

Also what's up with h8-80, h3-50 and h3 neo 37°? I've heard good things about h8-80, but not much for the other two.

I have tried both 8-80 and h3 37d. I think they have the same sponge so if u put it in an alc blade like viscaria it has enough catapult but not comparable to an esn type of rubber. What u get in these 2 is a better spin result. Speed can be compensated by the blade. I would say the main difference between the 2 is that h8-80 is more tacky than h3 37d. I have been using 8-80 for like 4months and it still has the same level of tackiness. My newer h3 37d is almost non tacky out of the box but is still very grippy. Hope this info helps.

 

[U871247]

ESN rubbers feel springy because they are large-pored sponge with built in tension, so it feels like a trampoline compressing and expanding.

#80 is more like a less dense version of the regular DHS sponge. It doesn't have that inherent springiness. But I feel it doesn't work in it's favor. By being less dense, it also doesn't have the same reaction to booster. So it ends up just being worse off after you boost vs regular dhs sponge, and deadish if you don't boost.

I don’t boost and maybe this is why I liked 8-80 better that h3 37d on bh

 

[ML fan]

I wanted to try dhs h8, I am dhs h3-37 user on bh. And I tried another bh rubbers, d09c, d05, rakza z, short pips, dhs h8-80. what I dont like on tensors is, it seems like there is a cotton or spring between rubber and blade, but with h3, I can feel the directness of the ball to the blade. and dhs h3 is the spinniest in my experience. on pushes, serves or loops. however, not so forgiving on off shots.
I am wondering what h8 feels. regarding dhs h8-80, it feels easier to use than dhs h3 however, I can feel that it is a bit mushier or feels a little with cotton compared to dhs h3 too.

 

[John_]

I wanted to try dhs h8, I am dhs h3-37 user on bh. And I tried another bh rubbers, d09c, d05, rakza z, short pips, dhs h8-80. what I dont like on tensors is, it seems like there is a cotton or spring between rubber and blade, but with h3, I can feel the directness of the ball to the blade. and dhs h3 is the spinniest in my experience. on pushes, serves or loops. however, not so forgiving on off shots.
I am wondering what h8 feels. regarding dhs h8-80, it feels easier to use than dhs h3 however, I can feel that it is a bit mushier or feels a little with cotton compared to dhs h3 too.

Lately I've started to understand why Chinese say the blade is more important. I find little difference nowadays when I change rubbers, as long as they're in good condition and not pips or anti, but differences in blade hits pretty hard. Center of mass and overall weight has started to really impact my comfort on different shots.

 

[Archosaurus]

The first setup I bought over a decade ago had tacky rubbers on both sides, and I found a lot of advantages to it. The (subjective?) control benefit was more important than the supposed lack of speed, especially close to the table.

It probably wasn't optimal for the cell ball, but it's nice to know that thinking had some merit. I still prefer a bit of tack and a less bouncy and denser sponge on the backhand.

 

[John_]

The first setup I bought over a decade ago had tacky rubbers on both sides, and I found a lot of advantages to it. The (subjective?) control benefit was more important than the supposed lack of speed, especially close to the table.

It probably wasn't optimal for the cell ball, but it's nice to know that thinking had some merit. I still prefer a bit of tack and a less bouncy and denser sponge on the backhand.

I started the same way, but eventually I moved away from carbon and I found that I was getting destroyed with 5ply wood and Chinese rubbers. So I played with h3 turbo blue and bluestorm pro am on intensity and was actually a near perfect setup, until the hurricane bubbled. So I'm back to placeholder mxp50. I'll probably go for a inner carbon blade, maybe an s968 clone that is a bit more modern and handle heavy than a w968, and h3 on both sides. The problem is that they just don't have enough speed, and the harder you hit, down goes consistency.

 

[Archosaurus]

I started the same way, but eventually I moved away from carbon and I found that I was getting destroyed with 5ply wood and Chinese rubbers. So I played with h3 turbo blue and bluestorm pro am on intensity and was actually a near perfect setup, until the hurricane bubbled. So I'm back to placeholder mxp50. I'll probably go for a inner carbon blade, maybe an s968 clone that is a bit more modern and handle heavy than a w968, and h3 on both sides. The problem is that they just don't have enough speed, and the harder you hit, down goes consistency.

My experience is much the opposite; dense Chinese rubbers are faster even on backhand.

The only real issue with the dense sponge in my experience is that due to the linearity, sometimes you won't get enough racket head speed to engage the sponge for adequate spin, which might result in an out. However that does also allow you to somewhat kill the spin and keep the trajectory low and fast with the right touch so it's a double edged sword.

My backhand is pretty large and racket head speed is fast, though. I don't "poke" at the ball like a lot of people around my (lower) skill level do.

 

[mihalichtheone]

I wanted to try dhs h8, I am dhs h3-37 user on bh. And I tried another bh rubbers, d09c, d05, rakza z, short pips, dhs h8-80. what I dont like on tensors is, it seems like there is a cotton or spring between rubber and blade, but with h3, I can feel the directness of the ball to the blade. and dhs h3 is the spinniest in my experience. on pushes, serves or loops. however, not so forgiving on off shots.
I am wondering what h8 feels. regarding dhs h8-80, it feels easier to use than dhs h3 however, I can feel that it is a bit mushier or feels a little with cotton compared to dhs h3 too.

h8 is a bit less spin, a bit more speed. On my Intensity the 39 degrees 2.15 plays very nicely, in fact Ma Long star version h3 37 is a bit too mushy for my blade. Also, h8 bottoms out a bit easier, i think the overall conclusion is that h8 is easier to play version of h3. Plenty enough for me to play unboosted (boosted once, glued and never boosted again)

edit: the trajectory for h8 is bit longer as well, which i personally think for good. h3 trajectory is too safe, the ball goes too close to the net when looping for opponent to have a comfortable counter

 

[lodro]

Jeon Ji-hee uses H8 on her BH, she actually says that the sponge is Japanese-like so I wonder if she's talking about H8-80.

Completely disregarding rubber comments, this video could be invaluable to many players in various development stages.