Is this the world champion beater robot in the making?

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It's not fair, Jun did wear his special googles yet!
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It's not fair, Jun did wear his special googles yet!
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I don't think Jun was ready for that
to make it fair, other than his googles, he wasn't in match form.

secret sources say, he is back in training, to become a revenger and to defeat the robots, before they take over.
 
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Is there a special ball that allows the robot to track the speed and spin of the incoming ball? very cool!
If you watch QSB's videos you can track the speed/spin of regular balls already. I think the requisite technology is already there for robots to beat humans. They can track speed/spin much more accurately and quickly, and they have the agility now to keep the ball in play. All they need to do then is to outlast the human opponent.
 
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As nice as such technical shenanigans are, I feel it is kind of pointless as a proof for anything.
What was the question that this robot answers?
Can a robot that does not abide to table tennis rules and does not mirror the physical build of a human body beat a human table tennis pro? Of course it can.


That is like asking "can a robot beat a professional in dart?", yes of course.

Can a robot beat a professional in sprinting? Sure, again if you take away what makes it hard for humans, i.e. having to run with legs. A robot with wheels could easily outpace a human sprinter.

The only similarity of this robot to real table tennis is that there is a bat involved. If you had 4 meter tall humans easily hovering above the table being able to reach any ball without using footwork then this would be a more fitting contest.
 
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As nice as such technical shenanigans are, I feel it is kind of pointless as a proof for anything.
What was the question that this robot answers?
Can a robot that does not abide to table tennis rules and does not mirror the physical build of a human body beat a human table tennis pro? Of course it can.


That is like asking "can a robot beat a professional in dart?", yes of course.

Can a robot beat a professional in sprinting? Sure, again if you take away what makes it hard for humans, i.e. having to run with legs. A robot with wheels could easily outpace a human sprinter.

The only similarity of this robot to real table tennis is that there is a bat involved. If you had 4 meter tall humans easily hovering above the table being able to reach any ball without using footwork then this would be a more fitting contest.
Bro you acting like you just lost to this robot in the semi finals of your local table tennis tournament lol.
 
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Bro you acting like you just lost to this robot in the semi finals of your local table tennis tournament lol.
Don't be childish. I just wanted to point out that to me this is not table tennis, because it's rules are designed for humans. Building something that exploits this and is 4 times bigger than the subject supposed to participate in the sport is not really "amazing" tech. Nobody would have doubted that you can build machines with robot arms that can quickly do delicate things. We see it in automotive manufacturing already 20 years ago, so what is the news here ?

Put that into perspective and transfer this to regular tennis. Have a huge machine be build on a tennis court having the size of a two storee building hovering above the pitch with a robot arm holding a tennis racket. This does not make it tennis.

Thats like me entering an archery competition with a sniper rifle that shoots arrows and then boast about being more precise on greater distances than regular bow men. Of course you can achieve "greater" results if you simply bring more tech to the table, but that was never the point in any sport, otherwise we would have said "ok, bows and arrows are inferiour to long rifles, we cancel all archery competitions".


The table tennis robot does not even use table tennis strokes, but rather just blocks or smashes. No topspin, no chop, so what can it really do ? its the bastardized Robocop version of the old pips-out grandpa that blockes the whole table with his 40 year old worn off rubber on the whole table. If that is your definition of table tennis, then that is your very private choice.
 
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Don't be childish. I just wanted to point out that to me this is not table tennis, because it's rules are designed for humans. Building something that exploits this and is 4 times bigger than the subject supposed to participate in the sport is not really "amazing" tech. Nobody would have doubted that you can build machines with robot arms that can quickly do delicate things. We see it in automotive manufacturing already 20 years ago, so what is the news here ?

Put that into perspective and transfer this to regular tennis. Have a huge machine be build on a tennis court having the size of a two storee building hovering above the pitch with a robot arm holding a tennis racket. This does not make it tennis.

Thats like me entering an archery competition with a sniper rifle that shoots arrows and then boast about being more precise on greater distances than regular bow men. Of course you can achieve "greater" results if you simply bring more tech to the table, but that was never the point in any sport, otherwise we would have said "ok, bows and arrows are inferiour to long rifles, we cancel all archery competitions".


The table tennis robot does not even use table tennis strokes, but rather just blocks or smashes. No topspin, no chop, so what can it really do ? its the bastardized Robocop version of the old pips-out grandpa that blockes the whole table with his 40 year old worn off rubber on the whole table. If that is your definition of table tennis, then that is your very private choice.
Show me on the doll where the robot touched you. It’s gonna be ok lol
 
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Don't be childish. I just wanted to point out that to me this is not table tennis, because it's rules are designed for humans. Building something that exploits this and is 4 times bigger than the subject supposed to participate in the sport is not really "amazing" tech. Nobody would have doubted that you can build machines with robot arms that can quickly do delicate things. We see it in automotive manufacturing already 20 years ago, so what is the news here ?

Put that into perspective and transfer this to regular tennis. Have a huge machine be build on a tennis court having the size of a two storee building hovering above the pitch with a robot arm holding a tennis racket. This does not make it tennis.

Thats like me entering an archery competition with a sniper rifle that shoots arrows and then boast about being more precise on greater distances than regular bow men. Of course you can achieve "greater" results if you simply bring more tech to the table, but that was never the point in any sport, otherwise we would have said "ok, bows and arrows are inferiour to long rifles, we cancel all archery competitions".


The table tennis robot does not even use table tennis strokes, but rather just blocks or smashes. No topspin, no chop, so what can it really do ? its the bastardized Robocop version of the old pips-out grandpa that blockes the whole table with his 40 year old worn off rubber on the whole table. If that is your definition of table tennis, then that is your very private choice.
for the engineers or rather robotic industry, maybe this is breakthrough compared to the boring robots of what we know (pea shooters basically).
This robot can rally with you and to me, that is better than robot feeders or pea shooter robots.

you are obviously thinking only from a table tennis point of view but Omron is not a table tennis company.
I am sure Omron is not making money by doing table tennis robots, but rather, the robotic skills behind it, they can do a lot more useful things for the human race.

maybe they just using table tennis to demonstrate their skills, so you really need to see behind the technology and not just surface value imo.
 
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There are rules about what you are able to wear I think. I am pretty sure that you would not be allowed to hang yourself from a rope hovering above the table like Tom Cruise. That is a pointless discussion though. I am not that impressed and I am pretty sure that the robot will not use regular rubbers, because it's strokes do not really look like the are adjusting the bat angle for spin much.
I find the work done by boston dynamics way more impressive.
 
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As nice as such technical shenanigans are, I feel it is kind of pointless as a proof for anything.
What was the question that this robot answers?
Can a robot that does not abide to table tennis rules and does not mirror the physical build of a human body beat a human table tennis pro? Of course it can.


That is like asking "can a robot beat a professional in dart?", yes of course.

Can a robot beat a professional in sprinting? Sure, again if you take away what makes it hard for humans, i.e. having to run with legs. A robot with wheels could easily outpace a human sprinter.

The only similarity of this robot to real table tennis is that there is a bat involved. If you had 4 meter tall humans easily hovering above the table being able to reach any ball without using footwork then this would be a more fitting contest.
I don't believe a robot such as this could really beat a top level pro yet. Would be interesting to see that proved wrong one day but I don't think that day is yet
 
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Is there anything in the ITTF rules that say a player can't wear an exoskeleton? I mean as long as the blade is wood, the rest of the player can put on iron man's Hulkbuster armour and still be legit?
No. There is nothing in the ITTF rules to specifically prevent humans from turning into robots 😂
Maybe they need to look at that....
 
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No. There is nothing in the ITTF rules to specifically prevent humans from turning into robots 😂
Maybe they need to look at that....
ITTF is already hosting egames tt or what ever that is called
in few years time, it will be you on your corner couch, me on my corner couch, and we each have remote controls, controlling our robots for a game of ping pong
 
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will it drink a beer with me after the game? .. no?..bad robot
There's still more physical clues than with the shooting type robot. I think that's how it should be judged.

Do you always have to serve?

I've said for years, one day the robot that does your dishes will also play you in tt...if you pay to download the software.
 
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