Just Butterfly Glayzer (on backhand)
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According to Butterfly logic, the numerical designation 09c for both rubbers should correspond to the same topsheet.
And as mentioned, a softer sponge that activates better at lower power.
The numerical designation 09c relates to the pimple structure, not to the material as such. Accordingly, the topsheets and sponges of Glayzer 09c and Dignics 09c are different.
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Seriously? Why would you market it as an intermediate rubber if it's harder than G1?
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It is relative to Dignics I think. It really isn't an intermediate rubber over all so to speak.
Also, a lot of things are easier with harder rubbers. I just got back to Glazer from a stint with C1 cause I just dont have the ball sense/ability to control the ball for service recieve and short game with a soft rubber.
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Rakza 7 plays quite soft for 47.5, so Glayzer is harder than both Rakza 7 and C1. For me Glayzer feels similar hard to the "harder" 47.5s like Vega Pro or X, G1, MX-S. Tronix ACC (my BH rubber) feels slightly softer than Glayzer.
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After using G1 and V15e Glayzer felt a lot harder. Now it feels very soft. One needs to rely on the topsheet stretching more than with ESN rubbers.
After someone uses ESN rubber for long Glayzer feels hard and deflective.
Its true other way around too, if I pick up G1 or whatever that kind of rubber it feels mushy and no grip, no spin.
After someone uses ESN rubber for long Glayzer feels hard and deflective.
Its true other way around too, if I pick up G1 or whatever that kind of rubber it feels mushy and no grip, no spin.
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So I tried out Glayzer in 2.1mm on my backhand today. Glued to one of my backup AJH TMXi Pro. Weight of the rubber was 49g. So when Glayzer was released, I remember there were alot of reviews that were mostly negative or critical of the rubber. I guess its because Glayzer is being compared to Dignics, which is not really a fair comparison.
From the start of the session I felt like Glayzer is very easy to play with. The rubber is perfect in passive play, very easy to do passive blocks and short game. It is not very bouncy or reactive. In active play, I understand why people feel that Glayzer is a bit hard. Compared to Omega 7 Pro, more effort is needed to get the quality out. So you need some impact on backhand to make glayzer work, but then it is very stable and also quite spinny. The rubber is also fast enough if you pair it with a fast blade. On my AJH TMXi Pro it takes quite a bit of effort to make a fast ball, but still possible. Omega 7 Pro overall is easier to create spin with, arc is longer, ball is spinnier and more deadly. The difference is noticeable but not huge
What I agree with is the topsheet. It is really amazing and reminds me of dignics 05. When I went for brush shots, like chiquita or open ups with soft contact, the topsheet grips the ball so so well, it gave me alot of confidence. And if you engage the topsheet in that way, the rubber feels quite soft and very stable, ball always lands on the table.
I think Glayzer is a do it all rubber on backhand, very balanced, enough speed, really solid spin, and easy to play with in those situations that count (short game, serve-receive, passive play). I really doubt most regular club players will ever reach a level where glayzer wont be sufficient anymore, it is alot harder to make safe and powerful shots with dignics 05 (talking about matchplay, not drills). Of course, if you are on a higher level like 2000 TTR it will be different, but most club players are around 1200-1600 TTR. The topsheet also gave me strong d05 vibes so I assume the durability of Glayzer will be great. So Glayzer in my opinion can be recommended, especially if you can get some discount. Glayzer cost me about 10€ less than omega 7 pro , I'd say its a very reasonable deal
This is all in regard to backhand. I tried it on my forehand side for a few loops, there you can easily feel it is lacking on strong impact
From the start of the session I felt like Glayzer is very easy to play with. The rubber is perfect in passive play, very easy to do passive blocks and short game. It is not very bouncy or reactive. In active play, I understand why people feel that Glayzer is a bit hard. Compared to Omega 7 Pro, more effort is needed to get the quality out. So you need some impact on backhand to make glayzer work, but then it is very stable and also quite spinny. The rubber is also fast enough if you pair it with a fast blade. On my AJH TMXi Pro it takes quite a bit of effort to make a fast ball, but still possible. Omega 7 Pro overall is easier to create spin with, arc is longer, ball is spinnier and more deadly. The difference is noticeable but not huge
What I agree with is the topsheet. It is really amazing and reminds me of dignics 05. When I went for brush shots, like chiquita or open ups with soft contact, the topsheet grips the ball so so well, it gave me alot of confidence. And if you engage the topsheet in that way, the rubber feels quite soft and very stable, ball always lands on the table.
I think Glayzer is a do it all rubber on backhand, very balanced, enough speed, really solid spin, and easy to play with in those situations that count (short game, serve-receive, passive play). I really doubt most regular club players will ever reach a level where glayzer wont be sufficient anymore, it is alot harder to make safe and powerful shots with dignics 05 (talking about matchplay, not drills). Of course, if you are on a higher level like 2000 TTR it will be different, but most club players are around 1200-1600 TTR. The topsheet also gave me strong d05 vibes so I assume the durability of Glayzer will be great. So Glayzer in my opinion can be recommended, especially if you can get some discount. Glayzer cost me about 10€ less than omega 7 pro , I'd say its a very reasonable deal
This is all in regard to backhand. I tried it on my forehand side for a few loops, there you can easily feel it is lacking on strong impact
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I've transitioned from using Dignics 05 to Glayzer on my backhand, and I'm impressed with the results. Compared to Dignics 05, the Glayzer is a bit softer, yet it maintains excellent grip for backhand flicks. Its improved control and safety over the net make it a superior choice for a close-to-the-table game. For an intermediate player looking to develop an active backhand, the Glayzer is a more stable and forgiving option than the Dignics 05, prioritizing consistent, high-percentage shots over outright speed.
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As anyone played Glayzer (normal) and tenergy 19, to compare a bit ? I really like the T19 on the BH of my inner carbon GHL5. But, I feel that the rubber is getting old after 2 months, and the rubber is a bit too bouncy for short control game (i come from chinese rubber that excels here, but lose on many aspects of the game for me, that is why i left). I was wondering if the normal glayzer, with 2° hardness increase can be better in that area. Dignics seems too hard for my BH. I also, bottom out the rubber away from the table when i play hard. Overall i am really happy with T19, but i am curious to find somthing similar with even greater characterisitics for me. Lower price, and higher durability also makes the Glayzer interesting.
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Thanks for your detailed description. It sounds a lot like those related to Hybrid MK. Do you agree? Did anybody compare Glayzer and Hybrid MK? I'm using the MK but looking for something more durable.
Just switched from Glayzer to MK. The MK has a much (much!) softer feel. It is also slightly slower. Cant say anything about durability other than that Glayzer is a true workhorse that can go on forever.
Very different feel. All tenergies are bouncier, livelier and faster than Glayzer (or D05) except perhaps when hitting really, really hard. Open ups and lazy loops are easier with Tenergy, short game much more controlled with Glayzer.
The difference between the rubbers are bigger than the sponge hardness numbers. Glayzer is a lot more like Dignics.
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The Glayzer topsheet grip is just unbeatable, even Dignics doesn't beat it since it's the same. The durability hmmm... One year old Glayzer that are beat up still grip more than new ESN rubbers. The only thing I don't like about Glayzer that the edges of the topsheet are chipping but I think Tenergy does too.
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glayzer is great but fastarc g1 felt like an upgrade to me in almost every way
what glayzer can do better is medium power loops (if you cant activate g1 sponge), or full topsheet brushing (glayzer grips exceptionally well). in all other department I see g1 slightly ahead
that beeing said, besides g1, no esn rubbers can really match glayzers durability. glayzer is fantastic on backhand
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Played with Glayzer on both wings the last year for a while, then switched to T19 and for the past 6 months it's D80.
I would describe Glayzer as "excellent topsheet, bad sponge", as it's very stable but hard to finish points against solid opponents. It's much closer to Dignics than to Tenergy, and it's probably the most durable rubber I've tried to this day (maybe except unboosted Yinhe Jupiter 2).
I also tried 2-year old Glayzer on a clubmate's blade--although it looked like a worn out rag and the sponge was dead, the topsheet gripped the ball better than most new ESN rubbers.
The lack of dynamics is crucial tho - I would rate spin of D09C/D05 as 9.5-10, Tenergy 19 as 8, MK Hybrid as 7.5, and Glayzer as 5 at best. It's very easy to achieve this spin but it's also not hard to block.
Speed is better though, also easily achievable and around 7/10.
In short, Glayzer can't be compared against the above-mentioned rubbers, only Dignics 05 is somewhat close but the spin difference couldn't be bigger.
Glayzer is good for serve receive, blocks, pushes and medium-power drives. If it had a higher arc, I would say it's an excellent rubber given it's price/durability. But with its low arc it's just a medium rubber overall, only suitable for backhand in its niche.
I would describe Glayzer as "excellent topsheet, bad sponge", as it's very stable but hard to finish points against solid opponents. It's much closer to Dignics than to Tenergy, and it's probably the most durable rubber I've tried to this day (maybe except unboosted Yinhe Jupiter 2).
I also tried 2-year old Glayzer on a clubmate's blade--although it looked like a worn out rag and the sponge was dead, the topsheet gripped the ball better than most new ESN rubbers.
The lack of dynamics is crucial tho - I would rate spin of D09C/D05 as 9.5-10, Tenergy 19 as 8, MK Hybrid as 7.5, and Glayzer as 5 at best. It's very easy to achieve this spin but it's also not hard to block.
Speed is better though, also easily achievable and around 7/10.
In short, Glayzer can't be compared against the above-mentioned rubbers, only Dignics 05 is somewhat close but the spin difference couldn't be bigger.
Glayzer is good for serve receive, blocks, pushes and medium-power drives. If it had a higher arc, I would say it's an excellent rubber given it's price/durability. But with its low arc it's just a medium rubber overall, only suitable for backhand in its niche.
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I think the sponge is pretty good in fact. And spin and the natural ball lift of Glayzer is pretty comparable to Tenergy. I switch back and forth between Glayzer and V15 and Glayzer is just more easier to use in difficult situations to lift the ball with very low effort while if I do the same with V15 my ball barely reaches the bottom of the net.
Also Glayzer is light too compared to most rubbers. If someone has a 90g blade uses about 5-6g glue and has a 50-53g forehand rubber that 46g BH Glayzer sure looks tempting compared to 50g BH ESN rubber.
90+5+51+46 = 192g... and I wouldn't call this a light racket either just fairly average. If you add another 4g BH rubber that's getting into some really heavy setup already.
Spring sponge X can be very well air boosted too, nothing else even comes close to it.
Also Glayzer is light too compared to most rubbers. If someone has a 90g blade uses about 5-6g glue and has a 50-53g forehand rubber that 46g BH Glayzer sure looks tempting compared to 50g BH ESN rubber.
90+5+51+46 = 192g... and I wouldn't call this a light racket either just fairly average. If you add another 4g BH rubber that's getting into some really heavy setup already.
Spring sponge X can be very well air boosted too, nothing else even comes close to it.
Glayzer makes intermediate matches much more fun to play in and for spectators to watch.
There’s fewer return of serve errors, more forgiveness, get to enjoy longer rallies.
It’s more of a fitness workout too, instead of just constantly picking the ball from the net / behind the barriers due to unforced errors.
There’s fewer return of serve errors, more forgiveness, get to enjoy longer rallies.
It’s more of a fitness workout too, instead of just constantly picking the ball from the net / behind the barriers due to unforced errors.
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