Loki adc special vs dhs w968

[mathx91]

Comparison between Loki ADC Special and DHS W968: Let's Discuss!

Hello Table Tennis Community,

I wanted to initiate a discussion on two exciting table tennis blades: the Loki ADC Special and the DHS W968. Both blades have their unique characteristics, which can significantly impact play style and performance.

 

[linduz]

HI,
I've been playing with the LJK special adc for 5 months now. In my experience it is drier than the w968, which has a more pronounced spring effect. The frame has a lot of control, fantastic in the lockout, but when you activate the carbon hard it feels really powerful

 

[Kilogramme]

HI,
I've been playing with the LJK special adc for 5 months now. In my experience it is drier than the w968, which has a more pronounced spring effect. The frame has a lot of control, fantastic in the lockout, but when you activate the carbon hard it feels really powerful

What is spring effect ? On a rubber it makes sense, but on a blade, I am curious. Also, drier ? What do you mean ? I am not familiar with those terms for blades.
I think they should have pretty similar composition, as LJK played 968 before LOKI partnership. Also, there is a tons of LJK ADC special, so depends on which one you got, the feeling can change a lot I guess.

 

[linduz]

The spring effect refers to the sensation of the ball remaining on the frame and the consequent thrust. I have a LJK ADC Special R Version. It is certainly stiffer than at least the Q968 (WCQ). I think Liang played with W968 when he used DHS. For my style of play, the LJK is ideal: quite easy control on the backhand, I play with Rozena max on the forehand and 1.7 on the backhand

 

[GhostBackhand]

My Loki ADC feels hard as a rock. The arc it produces is much lower than the DHS W968, and it has almost no feeling at all. I threw it back into the box after just a few test sessions.

 

[linduz]

You have a special version, R Code, or market versione?

 

[dingyibvs]

I have the R version, and I've been playing with it here and there for about a month now. Over time I've gained enough appreciation for it that I'm seriously considering switching to it. The main thing I don't like about it is the handle. Its width is a bit narrower than the Q968, but the height is about the same, so basically overall smaller but rounder. The proportions just feel a bit off, as my hand isn't touching enough of the handle, but perhaps that's actually an advantage as it does make FH/BH grip changes a bit easier. IDK, maybe I'll have to actually play with it as a primary blade to know.

The play characteristic is very, very different from the W968 and Q968, both of which I used as the primary blade for a year or more. The LJK ADC Special R-series plays much more like an outer carbon blade, more like Viscaria/FZD ALC. I've also used the FZD ALC as my primary blade for almost a year before and still use it often to try out various rubber combos. To me it really feels more like a more powerful FZD ALC. It's much easier to activate than the W968, which in turn is easier to activate than the Q968. When the 968s activate, you get a pretty high arc, but the LJK blade feels much more direct. You really feel it on the BH side, so much easier to play with than either W or Q968.

On the FH side the more direct, flatter trajectory does make big swings a big harder to land, so like with the FZD ALC you'll have to more actively contract your elbow at contact for a more compact follow through. However, unlike the Viscaria/FZD etc. on brush loops you still get good dwell due to it being an outer blade. With the FZD I often feel that if I'm just a bit off with the timing on brush loops the ball might bounce off the blade before I can really grab the ball, but that's not an issue with the LJK blade.

Overall, I think the LJK blade is a better fit for amateurs. Against higher level opponents I just don't have the footwork or anticipation to launch FH bombas all the time unlike say WCQ, so the easier activation is really helpful when I use smaller motions. Its ease to brush loop is also helpful compared to the Viscaria-like blades, as sometimes you just need to get the ball on the table.

I think I'm gonna try a S968 to see if it behaves more like the LJK but with the more comfortable (for my hand at least) DHS handle. Otherwise I'll switch to the LJK as my primary to give it a real try.

 

[loki-sport-uk]

Glad to see people play Loki

 

[laowa]

Anyone tried the ARC version?

 

[loki-sport-uk]

ADC inner and ARC outer

We like to compare ARC to Viscaria
ADC to Butterfly Harimoto Innerforce ALC / DHS Long 5

 

[laowa]

ADC inner and ARC outer

We like to compare ARC to Viscaria
ADC to Butterfly Harimoto Innerforce ALC / DHS Long 5

How about the ARC player edition vs ARC?

 

[loki-sport-uk]

LJK ARC

LJK ADC

YUAN LICEN ARC

ZHAO ZIHAO ARC

HU DONGSHEN-X

LJK ARC Special Version

LJK ARC Special Version（TOP PLAYER）

LJK ARC Special Version（NO. 1）

LJK ADC Special Version(Size S)

LJK ADC Special Version（NO. 1）

These are all the version. We will need contact team from China to confirm exact info.

The information we have been given at some point is that the special edition / top players is selected wood and different glue.

Better quality how that compare to actual feeling we don’t yet, we are still waiting for stock to arrive so we have not been able to test them yet.

 

[loki-sport-uk]

Exact info from our China team.

ARC and ADC refer to the difference in the position of the carbon fiber layer within the blade.

The number of layers in the blade is generally odd, and the innermost layer is the core material.

The layer outside the core is the power layer, and the outermost layer of wood is the face layer. If the carbon fiber layer is between the power layer and the face layer, we call it ARC; if the carbon fiber layer is between the core layer and the power layer, we call it ADC. and the outermost layer of wood is the surface ply (top ply). If the carbon fiber layer is between the power ply and the surface ply, we call it ARC.

No.1 is a blade with the exact same specifications as the one used by Liang Jingkun himself.
Compared to the regular version, the special edition has better performance and specs across the board.

 

[loki-sport-uk]

Some exta info.

Generally, if a person has powerful strength and likes to play away from the table, I would recommend the ADC. Liang Jingkun himself uses the ADC version No. 1 blade.

But for average players, I would recommend the ARC, as it is relatively less strenuous and provides more powerful attacks.

In the past, when selling table tennis equipment, terms like OFF+, OFF-, and ALL-ROUND were used in promotions. These are all marketing tactics, including the concepts of control, spin, and speed, because there is no unified standard in the industry.

 

[dingyibvs]

So just an update, I've now tried 2 additional blades, the S968 and the LJK ADC Special S-series. The S-series I got feels quite different from the R-series. It's even more outer feeling than the R-series, but it doesn't have as much power or dwell. Note that my R-series is also heavier, at ~93 grams as opposed to my S-series at ~87 grams. The handles and the blade faces are the same, as well as the thickness. The design is slightly different, with a different picture of LJK at the bottom and the absence of the little golden bowtie on the handle for the S-series. I prefer more dwell in my blades, so I like the R-series better.

The S968 in contrast feels like a much, much easier to use Q968, which itself feels like a more FH/BH balanced but overall harder to use W968. Hitting into the S968 is quite easy, and while it's not quite as powerful as either the 968s nor the LJK R-series, it feels easier to use overall due to still retaining the characteristic 968 dwell while being easier to hit into than all the 968s and LJK's I've tried (my clubmmate also has a R-series LJK blade).

I'm gonna stick to the S968 for now due to its ease of use, but if I'm searching for more power in the future I'll likely move to the LJK R-series rather than back to the quite difficult to use Q968.

 

[linduz]

Condividerò anche la mia esperienza con la Loki LJK serie S. Posso confermare che è una versione meno potente della serie R; mi piace perché facilita l'ingaggio della palla nei colpi con molto spin. La sto usando con una Sanwei Target National sul dritto e una Fastarc G1 da 1,8 mm sul rovescio. Probabilmente userò la versione S per le partite di campionato: dato che non mi alleno molto, mi permette un margine di errore maggiore.