Pro players using short pips on BH

[Karl Erik Rasmussen]

Hi everyone,

As a short pips player on BH (since young age) I’m wondering what the pro players is using. Blade, rubber and rubber thickness?

Today I’m using Tibhar MK carbon with Tibhar Speedy soft d.tecs XD max thickness.

I have seen some using Butterfly Viscaria, and some players DHS Long 5 but also players who use something totally different.

As as short pips player you want a stiff and a bit of hard blade. I have got confused since there is so many variations.

- What’s the thing with 7 ply all wood blades? Is it still working with the new ball?

- Can innferforce blades be used and why?

Thanks for the reply’s

Karl Erik

 

[tzifos]

There are short pips (like Moristo SP, Rakza PO etc) that are playing almost like inverted rubbers. There are also other short pips (like Donic Baxter or Attack8 M) that are very different from inverted rubbers. So the blade you are going to use depends on the kind of short pips that you are going to use and the kind of play you want. There is no rule for this.

Mima Ito for example is using the Moristo SP on backhand with a fast outer-carbon blade that is quite flexy. Also 7ply blades can be stiff or flexy there is no rule also, it depends of their thickness and type of wood that is used. The same applies to inner-carbon blades.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

There are short pips (like Moristo SP, Rakza PO etc) that are playing almost like inverted rubbers. There are also other short pips (like Donic Baxter or Attack8 M) that are very different from inverted rubbers. So the blade you are going to use depends on the kind of short pips that you are going to use and the kind of play you want. There is no rule for this.

Mima Ito for example is using the Moristo SP on backhand with a fast outer-carbon blade that is quite flexy. Also 7ply blades can be stiff or flexy there is no rule also, it depends of their thickness and type of wood that is used. The same applies to inner-carbon blades.

I couldn't say it better

 

[Karl Erik Rasmussen]

There are short pips (like Moristo SP, Rakza PO etc) that are playing almost like inverted rubbers. There are also other short pips (like Donic Baxter or Attack8 M) that are very different from inverted rubbers. So the blade you are going to use depends on the kind of short pips that you are going to use and the kind of play you want. There is no rule for this.

Mima Ito for example is using the Moristo SP on backhand with a fast outer-carbon blade that is quite flexy. Also 7ply blades can be stiff or flexy there is no rule also, it depends of their thickness and type of wood that is used. The same applies to inner-carbon blades.

OK. Thanks for the answer.

What about a inner carbon blade like Felix Lebrun hyper carbon or Harimoto alc paired with moristo SP 2.0 mm?

 

[Tembel]

OK. Thanks for the answer.

What about a inner carbon blade like Felix Lebrun hyper carbon or Harimoto alc paired with moristo SP 2.0 mm?

I have played with Spectol S1, Spectol S3 and Stiga Symmetry on Harimoto ALC and Viscaria. Works well for me and I do not think there is a huge difference between the blades. Both are stable. One thing that is a weakness of SP is when you get a bit of a distance to the table. When this happens, maybe the outer-ALC helps to mitigate a bit (unless you prefer to chop or twiddle). However, I also like the tiny bit additional control close to the table that the inner-ALC gives me.

I have not played for that long with SP so I am not an expert, so take this as for what it is; just some random guy on the internet's personal experience. 😊

 

[igorponger]

Mima Ito at her best. Cuirca 2018.

Honoka Hashimoto using Nittaku DO Knuckle half-sticky pimples to inhibit incoming spin on the ball.

 

[tzifos]

Although the ITTF states in its lists DoKnuckle as (short) pips and not Long Pips, DoKnuckle is a "medium" length pip and it play more like a long pip than a short pip. ITTF do not have a category "medium" pips. The fact that DoKnuckle max sponge thickness is just 1.4mm states a lot, while most short pips sponge max thickness is 1.9 or even more.

EDIT: for ITTF there are 4 categories of rubbers, as you can see in LARC:

• In (inverted)
• Out (short pips, medium pips)
• Long (long pips)
• Anti
  

 

[igorponger]

Hashimoto in action, Just WTT winner,

 

[belllfador]

I am away from pro, but my transition to SP on BH was very fast with DMS Spinfire and Spinlord Degu II. The first is very popular, fast and spiny with some tensor effect. There is a softer version that I guess will play better on BH. Degu II is slower and linear but has enough spin for short looping. I like Degu II more because can do everything (close to the table) with great control and also have better service return. With a small change in racket angle, I can produce spin variations on chop and services, but overall is not dangerous rubber by itself. I am using stif blades for better block stability and low vibrations.

Yuto Muramatsu is using Spectrol S1.

 

[Gekko]

This blog keeps track of pro's equipment. I've linked it to the Japanese women's pips.

【日本女子編】卓球選手使用用具(ラケット・ラバー)一覧 - やりログ

※個人的に調べているものなので、情報が古かったり、そもそも間違っている可能性があります。あくまで参考程度に考え

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