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Rare Blade Butterfly BISIDE unplayed. Does anyone knows any details about this blade? Value? Rare? Thankful for some more Informations.
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A Biside in this condition with the original box is certainly a collectors item and worth "something". It was produced from 1997 - 2001 and has the same composition as the original Keyshot. The Biside was probably ahead of its time, just like the Viscaria, which wasn't a big seller back in the 90's.
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Well, "something" in between...
It is worth whatever a collector might be willing to pay...
That being said, I have seen people ask for 300 € for a Biside, without original box and in not such good condition as yours. I think 250 € is a very safe bet, 500 € perhaps a bit of a stretch...but possible, I guess.
It is worth whatever a collector might be willing to pay...
That being said, I have seen people ask for 300 € for a Biside, without original box and in not such good condition as yours. I think 250 € is a very safe bet, 500 € perhaps a bit of a stretch...but possible, I guess.
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Thank you for your answer mate. I was not thinking about to make millions with it.Well, "something" in between...
It is worth whatever a collector might be willing to pay...
That being said, I have seen people ask for 300 € for a Biside, without original box and in not such good condition as yours. I think 250 € is a very safe bet, 500 € perhaps a bit of a stretch...but possible, I guess.
Was just wondering bc never saw and had one before. So the research was a bit tough.
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I had a Keyshot once - unplayed and with box - , which as mentioned has the same composition as the Biside and was from the same time frame. Cost me about 250€ if I recall correctly, and then sold it 2-3 years later for pretty much the same price. Dumbest deal I ever made, at least tt related; should have kept it...
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Oh got you. Its actually a pretty nice blade. Looks good. OFC ive never played but it looks nice. I dont know how to explain. I like it. And have some nice Butterfly history behind. So maybe i just keep it in my collection.
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Funny how this is the first time I see evidence that Butterfly uses Vectran, labels it Arylate and openly admits it!
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I guess its one of theyre
I guess its one of the first Butterfly blades made with those materials.
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For what it's worth, the Viscaria, which was the first ever ALC blade (released in 1993), didn't have the Arylate = Vectran reference printed on the blade (or the box), whereas later released (but now discontinued) blades such as Keyshot, Keyshot Light, Keyshot Alpha, Biside, Moonbeam, Innerforce Layer AL had the word Vectran on the blade and/or the box. But those blades used the red Arylate/Vectran, not the blue version, and of course without the carbon.
I think I heard that Butterfly now offers special made blades again. Would be interesting to know if they could/would rebuild those blades with the red fiber if someone would ask for it.
I think I heard that Butterfly now offers special made blades again. Would be interesting to know if they could/would rebuild those blades with the red fiber if someone would ask for it.
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Keyshot was released in 11/1991, 2 years before Viscaria that was released in 11/1993.
The red Vectran is supposedly different from the blue Vectran.
The red Vectran is supposedly different from the blue Vectran.
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With "supposedly" meaning this is something you have said before. For those who don't want to click the link.
Even if what you say there is true, and it makes marketing sense to differentiate with colour, that doesn't mean the spec of the material itself is actually different.
Supported by the fact they stopped using the red version. It's likely that they just cut some costs by no longer manufacturing two different colours.
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Not me, but Kuraray. The source is still out there. Go find it yourself if you care enough. Stop wasting my time.
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Vectran has no particular color, and Kuraray adds some pigments on demand, specially for nautical sports cos' it matters to identify ropes.
Vectran - MaterialDistrict
Vectran is a high-performance multifilament yarn spun from liquid crystal polymer (LCP). This fibre has impressive strength and rigidity.
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What I see is that the Biside is very similar in design to the Keyshot Light, the difference is in the surface. The Keyshot Light has a koto, and the Bsside has a limba. There may also be a difference in blade thickness.
Keyshot Light is very flexible blade, it bends easily despite its large thickness - 6.4 mm. It plays slowly on reception and not fast on hits, but it is just great for making topspins - a catapult with a low arc appears and this blade does not feel slow. Blade construction - middle layer - 4 mm ayous, then 2 layers of vectran of 0.2 mm and 2 outer layers of koto of 1 mm.
Keyshot Light is very flexible blade, it bends easily despite its large thickness - 6.4 mm. It plays slowly on reception and not fast on hits, but it is just great for making topspins - a catapult with a low arc appears and this blade does not feel slow. Blade construction - middle layer - 4 mm ayous, then 2 layers of vectran of 0.2 mm and 2 outer layers of koto of 1 mm.
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If you want to link to a source, link to the source rather than your own post without the source in it. You took the effort, might as well have produced a useful result instead.
If you feel like I'm wasting your time by saying you failed to cite actual sources, the fix is easy: cite the actual source in the first place.
See, you might have a good point, and a great source somewhere in your mind, but we can't look inside your head and know what you know. Linking your own post as evidence is just saying "it's true because I say it is" to others. If anyone talked to you that way, would you take their word seriously?
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