Rasanter R45 or G-1, more controllable?

[FrenchFrog33]

Which is more controllable, R45 or G-1?

 

[Scarfed Garchomp]

Whichever one you've spent more time with tbh

 

[TensorBackhand]

Which is more controllable, R45 or G-1?

I think G1, has a more natural and high throw angle, easy to clear the net and land on the table

R45 often times didn't do what I thought it would

 

[Tiz]

Definitely G1 is more controllable, R45 is bouncier. G1 is linear, but it's harder so if you're going to use on BH you might need to adjust to that. After using R45 I reached the conclusion that thin top sheet rubbers are not for me.

 

[greenbeanmachine]

I also vote G1. R45 is very bouncy and great for counterspin, but harder to control if you misread the spin. G1 lets you hit through spin without being too affected by it.

 

[Angerer]

G1 for sure is more controllable.

Imo, R45 excels in two areas:
1) Incredible spin (especially for such a soft rubber) that is easy to generate.
2) Aggressive blocking that puts the attacker in precarious positions.

In everything else, G1 is better.

 

[Airoc]

1) Incredible spin (especially for such a soft rubber) that is easy to generate.
2) Aggressive blocking that puts the attacker in precarious positions.

That puts a nice perspective on the whole "control" issue.

Imagine you´ve aptly described my backhand game, wouldn´t such rubber not be more "controlled" for me?

Anything less bouncy would require more work, maybe more accuracy, something would be missing and it would make me lose "control".

I know generally lack of speed/catapult is meant to equal control, we´ve learned from printings on blades that there is a linear relation - less of one is more of the other.

But it depends so much on what you´re gonna do with a racket that for me "control" is the best possible support from my racket for what I want to do with it.

That said, Synteliac with R45 feels more controlled to me than an allround blade with a Sriver.

But I know that for a general discussion this is difficult. So, due to less bounce G1 is the more controlled of the two ;-)

 

[Angerer]

For me, the strength of R45's spin generation dictates its major flaw--the rubber is too "alive" for good control. It's not necessarily the catapult, I would say it's mostly due to the elastic/dynamic combination of sponge and topsheet.

Meanwhile, G1 is a kind of non-reactive rubber that overrides the incoming spin and lets you either chop or counter-top whenever you want. Same with the block--although I would say blocking with G1 isn't the best solution because the opponent can keep attacking against such block. But still, G1 does its job by simply putting the ball on the table via blocks, which is probably what most people consider as "control".
G1 just has this magical perk that it keeps landing the ball on the table.

 

[Metaxa]

Is it for on the Andro Ligna all wood? FH, BH, on both sides?
I did not like the Rasanter R45 on my Temper Tec.
Try walking first before trying to run.

 

[Airoc]

But still, G1 does its job by simply putting the ball on the table via blocks, which is probably what most people consider as "control".

Yes, like I said if everybody would use the term in direct relation to their own game only, there could not be any general discussion.
But you will surely agree that many would consider G1 as too fast and not controlled enough if they favour Sriver and the likes ;-)

 

[Angerer]

Yes, like I said if everybody would use the term in direct relation to their own game only, there could not be any general discussion.
But you will surely agree that many would consider G1 as too fast and not controlled enough if they favour Sriver and the likes ;-)

Sure, it all depends on style. Personally, I just spin from both wings and attack anything, even uncomfortable balls (lack of sheer power is my bane, gotta admit). So of course I only care for control during attacking to maintain spinny attacks, and this is where R45 (like many other R variants) is a godsent.
But if the style relies on a more versatile game with the short game, passive receive, shallow blocks, and leaving the initiative to the opponent for countering--G1 is the control champ for all these elements.