Recommendation for, slightly slower, long lasting Rubbers

[Julzig]

When I read "if anyone knows some "easy to play with", not too bouncy OFF Rubbers for both sides (doesnt have to be the same for both sides) with a hardness between 47 and 52," - one rubber comes to mind!

HK1997 Gold !

Slightly slower than tenergy05
Same spin generation
much less bouncy than T05 but not dead
tons and tons of control, even very fine wrist movements at the end of a FH loop can change direction, speed and spin
Excellent serve receive,
very durable, the sheet keeps spinning and does not lose much power even after many months (however, it is a bit fragile when removing it from blades, so once stuck just let it be)

In my opinion the best hidden gem rubber out there - I used to use it only on FH, but now I was given a T05 as a gift and since T05 is annoying on my BH due to it's bounciness, I use T05 FH and HK1997 Gold BH. I was surprised that it's a perfect BH rubber too!

So why not HK1997 Gold X2!

Oh this one i didnt know. Cheap aswell. Might atleast try

 

[Tomboov247]

Oh this one i didnt know. Cheap aswell. Might atleast try

You won't regret it!!! The top sheet elasticity is really impressive - spin is really a strong point

 

[Julzig]

Btw, it could very well be that I get used to my rubbers again and wont change a thing

 

[Silver Server]

G1 or Glayzer (if you consider japanese still). The newer ESN stuff ain't exactly famous for their durability. V>15 Extra is durable but I suppose it's too fast.

How much slower is Glayzer compared to G1, and is the top sheet a lot less grippier or just slightly?

Im using G1 on both sides of an Acoustic rn and while I like it ( a lot) I do find it fast at times. I can get G1 for $80 shipped from Japan, and Glayzer would be around $90. So Im not sure it’s worth the trade off. I read that Glayzer plays really dead, esp on all-wood.

 

[K.K]

it is slower and a bit harder, but you maybe will not feel that hardness because the topsheet is softer and just a different feeling on ball impact that feels really dwelly. for me it felt actually softer then G1.

it is just sooo easy to open up against underspin, or produce any kind of topspin, but it also has less spin, less power and a lower throw. it also has kind of like a power ceiling that starts way to early compared to the fact that is should have a 50° sponge. that together with the fact that it is waaaay less spin sensitiv and so easy to produce topspin and block it felt more like a good developing rubber for offensive players for me. same like rozena but more biased to loopers that need grip.

i find it a really good rubber and can help a lot if you have a side where you want to play offensive but maybe just not have the timing, stroke or footwork (yet). works good on FH and BH. so if you overpower with an 5ply blade then i would say yes try glayzer on one or two sides! but no it is not dead, just less catapult and power compared to some other bouncy esn rubbers or tenergy line

 

[Zwill]

How much slower is Glayzer compared to G1, and is the top sheet a lot less grippier or just slightly?

Im using G1 on both sides of an Acoustic rn and while I like it ( a lot) I do find it fast at times. I can get G1 for $80 shipped from Japan, and Glayzer would be around $90. So Im not sure it’s worth the trade off. I read that Glayzer plays really dead, esp on all-wood.

Hmmm, this is not that easy of a question. I don't think Glayzer is slower. Maybe on flat hits and flat blocks it is but once your stretch the top rubber it's faster.
On flat contact Glazyer is slow and even feels dead but once you can stretch the topsheet it turns into something like a bit softer Dignics.

The Glayzer topsheet is much more grippy than G1, in fact it's one of the grippiest rubbers. Even with very shiny and used balls the Glayzer grips the same as with a new ball.

 

[darkky65]

I second the Sanwei Gear Hyper (i suggest at 38 or 39, 37 just feels too soft for me and bottoms out)

Very linear and easy to use, very good spin and control.

 

[_ak]

80 and 90 is for 1 or 2 sheets? It's definitely too much for 1

 

[Julzig]

I second the Sanwei Gear Hyper (i suggest at 38 or 39, 37 just feels too soft for me and bottoms out)

Very linear and easy to use, very good spin and control.

Ok this makes it also onto my imaginary list.

 

[Zwill]

Ok this makes it also onto my imaginary list.

Sanwei Gear Hyper will be a shock at first should you choose that Shock not in a good way. At that point you're better off with Hurricane 8-80 in my opinion.
SGH is heavy. While Japanese rubbers are 45-6-7g cut, SGH is @ 50+

 

[Gozo Aruna]

I am considering to switch my rubbers in the near future.
Currently I play with Nexy Etika, Japanese made Tenergy like Rubbers. I love how they play and feel, but it is just too fast for when I have a bad day or am just not fit.
I also felt like the second pair I purchased feel not the same as the first.
My play style is overall Offense, I do pushes, slower heavier spins on openups, but tend to mostly do harder hitting spins/smashes or blocking.

So I am looking for a possible alternative that is just a bit slower and safer/forgiving. It should also last quite long and cost below 60€.
I dont want to spend over 60 Euros just to see them disintegrate in 3 Months, as my Joola Rubbers did.
So if anyone knows some "easy to play with", not too bouncy OFF Rubbers for both sides (doesnt have to be the same for both sides) with a hardness between 47 and 52,
feel free to let me know ^^

I am thinking of the classics G1 and Rakza 7 perhaps. Was also looking at Xiom Vega/jekyll & hyde series, Victas V20 (bad durabality?), ...
Or if they are faster Rubbers, that are also available in like 1.8/1.9mm.

Pleas give me your advise on that, or what would you do in my situation?

any classic ol'skool non in-built tension / in-built speed glue effect rubber will fit your description of slower last a long time rubber.

Case in point: Mark V, Sriver, Flextra et al.

 

[Julzig]

Sanwei Gear Hyper will be a shock at first should you choose that Shock not in a good way. At that point you're better off with Hurricane 8-80 in my opinion.
SGH is heavy. While Japanese rubbers are 45-6-7g cut, SGH is @ 50+

Oh, yeah below 50g should be nice. My blade weighs roughly 91g.

 

[Julzig]

any classic ol'skool non in-built tension / in-built speed glue effect rubber will fit your description of slower last a long time rubber.

Case in point: Mark V, Sriver, Flextra et al.

Not sure if they are too slow. Since I can play mostly fine with the once I have. Its just that I have random days where I can't do simple stuff. Maybe i test a used pair first.