Rubber with Soft Grippy topsheet

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M3 not same hardness as Z3?
Z3 has a thicker sponge with thinner top-sheet which will make it more trampolinish and I had stated my preference for super bouncy rubbers. So, they may be of same hardness, but the deal breaker is the extra bounciness which is a feature I like in a rubber.
 
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says Serve, top, edge. Repeat.
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  • I believe you may have confused the sponge hardness with top-sheet. To my knowledge, the top-sheet role is to create spin by applying friction and the sponge underneath that is to create the trampoline effect.
  • I have used Z3 for two weeks now, and my experience seem to differ from you. I love the huge trampoline effect and with ease the ball goes over the net.
  • I had used Z1 on FH before, while it is amazing on FH during stroking and multiball which let one feel like they are pro hard hitter like Dima / Franziska / Aruna; it is a nightmare during game-play. The ball fly here and there. Z3, being the tamer version that I use it on my BH and to favourable effect. When blocking & pushing the ball, it seems tend to stay on the table rather than flying here and there.
I've used z3 for 2 years now, it goes rock hard and loses much of its grip within the first 6 months, mine is dead after 4, yet I do play 5 to 7 times a week. But still, it's supposed to be a flagship rubber, Tenergy lasts far longer.

The sponge is to create speed and a connection between blade and ball, it also aids the deformation of the topsheet, hence how people say elastic sponges, etc.

I never said that the Z3 doesn't have a catapult effect, it's a rocket. The thing is that the ball doesn't easily dig into the sponge because the topsheet has so much tension that it feels rock hard, yet that's why it's so fast.
 
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second it! Not sure if @Lowday20298 wrote about the same Bluestorm Z3?
I've it on the Donic Persson PowerPlay for 2 months already and it is grippy and spiny as f... hell!!! Excellent BH rubber, you can play what you want
Give it some time, I've had 2 over the last 4 years and I'm not making the same mistake again. It is a spinny rubber, but it hardens real fast and loses that safety that it first has when you buy it, yours is still fresh, give it 2 more months. I play 5 to 7 times a week and Tenergy never died before 7 or 8 months.
 
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Yes, stretchy topsheet gives soft feel under finger pressure, and stiff topsheet gives tight feel. The popular belief that a thinner topsheet will always have a soft touch is generally wrong.

Once again, you have to strain topsheet out and see the peak-load force to identify soft and hard rubber sheets.

BTW, a reputable Hong Kong supplier was found to use non-rubber materials for Anti rubber composition. They did pay penalty fees.a lot. Dont ask me names, please.
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