Slower FH rubber

[kiram]

Hi

I´m currently using a Fang Bo Hurricane B2X with a Vega X on FH but this setup is a bit fast for me rn because i often see myself not doing the complete stroke to put the ball in,
so i´m looking for a slower setup. Despite being more on the beginner side i´m improving quite fast cause i am a tennis player.

So far i´m considering a goldarc 5, goldarc 8, Hurricane 8 and Hurricane 8-80 but still can´t decide. I´m more inclined to GA5 and Hurricane 8 tho...

can someone help me??

thanks in advance

 

[al_111]

What do you use on bh, have you tried flipping the racket, if so, what were your impressions?

 

[kiram]

What do you use on bh, have you tried flipping the racket, if so, what were your impressions?

Vega Europe on BH. It has a bit more control but it is too soft, kinda annoying to use it on FH

 

[al_111]

It might be a good idea to try something tacky and see if you like it.
As for DHS, I’d actually start with a boosted Hurricane 3, which is arguably the best thing they’ve ever made — all the other DHS rubbers just expand the product line or try to eliminate the hassle of boosting (without much success).
To get a taste of it, you could simply ask someone to boost a commercial sheet for you. If you don’t like boosted H3, then classic tacky rubbers probably aren’t for you — and most likely hybrids aren’t either — so you can focus on finding a more forgiving ESN or Butterfly rubber. If you do like H3, you either use it further or try to find the holy grail of unboosted substitute, just like a lot of us here.

 

[golden_son]

8-80 is pretty controlled and avoids the hassle of boosting an H3, even if it doesn't have the full spin and power potential. That would give you a taste for tacky rubbers.

Otherwise Rakza 7. It's a perfect learner's rubber that gives appreciable speed and spin when you fully execute your stroke, and is forgiving while learning. I found GA8 pretty similar to R7, but it is a bit faster.

 

[jk1980]

Another cheap alternative which (to me personally) does feel close enough to a hurricane 8-80 with more control is the PF40 from DHS. It's sticky, spinny and controlled, so that you dont pierce holes into the walls of your gym

 

[kiram]

8-80 is pretty controlled and avoids the hassle of boosting an H3, even if it doesn't have the full spin and power potential. That would give you a taste for tacky rubbers.

Otherwise Rakza 7. It's a perfect learner's rubber that gives appreciable speed and spin when you fully execute your stroke, and is forgiving while learning. I found GA8 pretty similar to R7, but it is a bit faster.

ain´t H8-80 too soft for the FH? cause i do like a lot the feeling of medium-hard. The rakza is a bit overpriced for me rn, almost double the price of the hurricanes in brazil. From what i red the speed is similar to vega x also

Nobody likes the GA5 anymore? I thought it was good for developing the stroke...H8 i get that it might be a bit too demanding for me

 

[al_111]

Well, it won't be SOFT soft, esp if you ask for a heavier 38 deg sheet. It's just if you don't like it, it may be because of H8 topsheet, or #80 sponge, or the hardness, etc. OTOH, if you don't like the King of tacky rubbers, you don't like tacky rubbers - case closed.
GA5 was not that popular to begin with, and it is a somewhat non-mainstream rubber from today's perspective - a hardish topsheet on a not-so-tensioned sponge. It will require fuller strokes for sure, but both the feel and the resulting quality might be underwhelming.
As you are not sure which path to choose, you should aim to first try the typical representatives of different clusters of rubbers, not outliers. Regarding tensors, thumbs up for Rakza 7 recommendation - might want to go with 2.0 if the problems with control are really significant.
Of note: there is always another way - keep your old rubbers and go down a notch or two with the blade speed. Just saying...

 

[joshmak10]

I’d say just go for a H3 Neo 39 degrees boosted for FH. Especially on DHS blades, it’s probably the best forehand rubber of all time

 

[golden_son]

ain´t H8-80 too soft for the FH? cause i do like a lot the feeling of medium-hard. The rakza is a bit overpriced for me rn, almost double the price of the hurricanes in brazil. From what i red the speed is similar to vega x also

Nobody likes the GA5 anymore? I thought it was good for developing the stroke...H8 i get that it might be a bit too demanding for me

H8-80 is only "soft" in comparison to H3, and only a notch. The 37° is comparable (in hardness) to Rakza, G1, Vega X and so on. If you want to try harder, you can get the 38°, which is a tad harder than those and a smidgen softer than H3. You don't hear of too many people using H8-80 on FH, it's true, but it isn't unheard of. It's mostly because once you have the skill to use a harder tacky rubber H3 can produce better balls. (On the other hand, it's harder to engage the H3 on BH so people like the softer H8-80 as a compromise.)

 

[lodro]

Try a Loki Rxton 3 PRO.
Most of my balls go on the table now but are still fast enough to create some long faces.

 

[TTprofessional]

Go with Hurricane 3 Neo. It’s slower and more controlled than Goldarc or Hurricane 8, with amazing spin and dwell. Perfect for learning full strokes without the ball flying off the table. If you don't want to boost then go with Goldarc 5.

 

[Hurricane AON]

Xuperman 41hardness

 

[GhostBackhand]

Vega X is already extremely slow and very easy to play. If you still can’t adapt to it, I think you should switch to a tacky rubber — something like Kokutaku 868, for example.

 

[latej]

Vega X is already extremely slow and very easy to play. If you still can’t adapt to it, I think you should switch to a tacky rubber — something like Kokutaku 868, for example.

Vega X is not slow, we have very diff. definitions of slow. It is perhaps not super fast, but def. not slow. It is also very spin-sensitive, due to its pimple height. It's not a rubber I'd recommend to a beginner.

I had it (on the BH, because it is too soft for FH), and what I say here, is not just my opinion, several people stated the same.

It's OK to have diff. opinions. But it is not the 1st time you tried to portray Vega X as easy rubber, so I want to bring some balance.

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

Rozena: The rubber that tolerates.

 

[GhostBackhand]

Vega X is not slow, we have very diff. definitions of slow. It is perhaps not super fast, but def. not slow. It is also very spin-sensitive, due to its pimple height. It's not a rubber I'd recommend to a beginner.

I had it (on the BH, because it is too soft for FH), and what I say here, is not just my opinion, several people stated the same.

It's OK to have diff. opinions. But it is not the 1st time you tried to portray Vega X as easy rubber, so I want to bring some balance.

With me, it's very slow, same as with Rakza7, and everyone always recommends Rakza7 for beginners, so I think there’s nothing wrong with that at all.

 

[olive-nguyen]

H3 Neo or Provincial H3, tackier rubbers are generally slower, and I find them more forgiving for short game than esn rubbers.

If not, try TG3, an even more control rubber with slightly less speed than H3

 

[TTAntiPlayer]

Maybe you can also consider GoldArc 9. It is a pretty solid rubber and in the same price range as GA5. I played a couple of seasons with GA5 years ago and as far as I remember, the durability wasn't that great.
I'm currently playing with H8 39 on my FH, and in my opinion it's not really a rubber for developing players, but that's just my personal view.

 

[latej]

I´m currently using a Fang Bo Hurricane B2X with a Vega X on FH but this setup is a bit fast for me rn because i often see myself not doing the complete stroke to put the ball in,
so i´m looking for a slower setup. Despite being more on the beginner side i´m improving quite fast cause i am a tennis player.

It's hard to suggest, but fwiw, I'd suggest the G09C for the FH.

With me, it's very slow, same as with Rakza7, and everyone always recommends Rakza7 for beginners, so I think there’s nothing wrong with that at all.

Vega X is more in the T05, MXP ball-park.