Tibhar Grass D.Tecs 1.6 - advantages?

[Controlled blocker]

Any experience of using Tibhar Grass D.Tecs 1.6? For my fh. Difficulty level to use? E.g. Short push game/block/loop/consistency etc. Attacking capabilities alongside defence? Advice/feedback really appreciated.

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

Pros:
1. Footwork? What footwork?
2. Spin? What is that?
3. I only need one technique. Stand in the middle of the table and hold my racquet just below my navel and win.
4. I don't need to change sweaty t-shirt coz I hardly sweat.

Cons:
1. I have no friends!

 

[Tyce]

Pros:
1. Footwork? What footwork?
2. Spin? What is that?
3. I only need one technique. Stand in the middle of the table and hold my racquet just below my navel and win.
4. I don't need to change sweaty t-shirt coz I hardly sweat.

Cons:
1. I have no friends!

No that's OX Grass D.TecS.
1.6mm is the version for people who want to torture themselves with a fast and uncontrollable long pip. Honestly thick sponge on LP just makes everything much harder to do.

 

[Controlled blocker]

Pros:
1. Footwork? What footwork?
2. Spin? What is that?
3. I only need one technique. Stand in the middle of the table and hold my racquet just below my navel and win.
4. I don't need to change sweaty t-shirt coz I hardly sweat.

Cons:
1. I have no friends!

You use the first person ‘I’ which suggests that you use the rubber yourself. Ironic 🤣

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

You use the first person ‘I’ which suggests that you use the rubber yourself. Ironic 🤣

No no no, never! I am speaking as the OP. I know I know not grammatically correct. I should be hung, drawn and quartered for the murder of The English Language.

 

[Controlled blocker]

No no no, never! I am speaking as the OP. I know I know not grammatically correct. I should be hung, drawn and quartered for the murder of The English Language.

haha fair enough, have no fear I am not the grammar police. Just an attempt at light hearted banter. I appreciate your reply.
I have never used LP (or sp) and was just considering my options as it’s brand new to me.

 

[Controlled blocker]

No that's OX Grass D.TecS.
1.6mm is the version for people who want to torture themselves with a fast and uncontrollable long pip. Honestly thick sponge on LP just makes everything much harder to do.

Thanks for the much needed information.

 

[Ultravisitor]

Any experience of using Tibhar Grass D.Tecs 1.6? For my fh. Difficulty level to use? E.g. Short push game/block/loop/consistency etc. Attacking capabilities alongside defence? Advice/feedback really appreciated.

Typically this is a rubber that's used on BH not FH. If you want to play a defensive style, this is not a rubber to loop with offensively.
There are some penholder who play a pushblocker/hitting style with LP on their FH, but that is rarely seen.

 

[JJ Ng]

If you have never played long pips before, start with ox (i.e. no sponge).

I agree with the other poster. Putting 1.6mm sponge on a long pips actually defeats the purpose of having long pips in the first place.

If you want deception and wobbly feeling toward the opponent, the ox version gives you the best chance.

After you are used to long pips ox, then you can always get another sheet with 0.5mmg of sponge and then go from there.

Using long pips (say ox) on the forehand side to attack, it is a bit weird. The reason is that in the modern game, with spin less of an issue, it is very hard to finish the point with long pips. The whole point of long pips, in most cases, is to use it to disrupt the opponent, from your BH side of long pips and once the ball pop up, you finish with your forehand (usually inverted or if you want to experiment, you can put a fast short pips rubber there) immediately. That's how you win.

Therefore using long pips usually requires you to learn to attack high balls very very well.

As for using long pips to attack, I cannot really think of anyone for you to imitate. If you want to use long pips on the FH side, check out some YouTube videos for some long pips penholder players from China and Japan, and see how they use long pips on the forehand side to set up their attacks. Those are interesting videos to look at.

 

[Controlled blocker]

If you have never played long pips before, start with ox (i.e. no sponge).

I agree with the other poster. Putting 1.6mm sponge on a long pips actually defeats the purpose of having long pips in the first place.

If you want deception and wobbly feeling toward the opponent, the ox version gives you the best chance.

After you are used to long pips ox, then you can always get another sheet with 0.5mmg of sponge and then go from there.

Using long pips (say ox) on the forehand side to attack, it is a bit weird. The reason is that in the modern game, with spin less of an issue, it is very hard to finish the point with long pips. The whole point of long pips, in most cases, is to use it to disrupt the opponent, from your BH side of long pips and once the ball pop up, you finish with your forehand (usually inverted or if you want to experiment, you can put a fast short pips rubber there) immediately. That's how you win.

Therefore using long pips usually requires you to learn to attack high balls very very well.

As for using long pips to attack, I cannot really think of anyone for you to imitate. If you want to use long pips on the FH side, check out some YouTube videos for some long pips penholder players from China and Japan, and see how they use long pips on the forehand side to set up their attacks. Those are interesting videos to look at.

Thanks for the kind advice. I’ll take it on board.