Time to try Hurricane 3

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How's the durability/longevity of the J1? And is it close enough to the H3 that if I didn't wanna boost the J1 could be an alternative for boosted H3? Seems to me they are similar from your description
Woohooo! The cool thing about the h3 is that it will be even better after a week of playing on. (at my level it takes a couple weeks before it gets really good, but i'm guessing you play a lot more so it will "break in" even faster for you).
At first i ddidn't like my h3n prov BS 39degree 2.15 but after a while i think i actually like it more than my 40 degree 2.10 BS. i'm still trying to decide though lol.
I would say J1 is half way between boosted H3 and the Tibhar K3 (unboosted, anything before H3 I've always used unboosted) I was using before.
Boosted H3 makes the rubber quite notably heavier (on the already head heavy long 5), which is not a problem for me but I know many people don't like it.
It is a different rubber but I find them compatible, it just feels very easy for me to come back to J1 as I have used it quite a lot by now (300ish hours). As for longevity I have just started my 4th forehand J1, I find it perfectly playable up to 80-90ish hours of play (which is a month and a half for me).

Also notice that my opinion on H3 is not completely formed yet, I have played maybe 6 hours with it spread out in two weeks, and double-triple the hours I was playing and competing with my normal setup not to lose the feeling with it. From next week I will probably try H3 a lot more.
 
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Here we are, I have now tried the H3 Provincial blue sponge for a week.

I have put it on the W968 that I bought here on the forum, so some words on the W968 as well. It is definitely a bit more rigid than the commercial Long 5s I was using before but it is really not that different. Backhand rubber is my usual, in the short game the W968 is a bit more bouncy, everything else, from open ups to blocks is more pleasurable to play, and especially when 1-2 metres behind the table open play is really fun. The setup is very heavy and especially head heavy. I like it but it is very noticeable and many people would hate it.

Now onto H3 Provincial BS, 40 degrees 2.15. I boosted it with National Yellow twice, waited and glued it on Sunday. I have trained or coached with it from Monday to Friday and played a double tournament today.

Monday, for the first two hours, it felt terrible, it felt very "muted" and a bit weird, I really couldn't get through it. The last hour of the training I felt like it "let go" a bit and I liked it more, and it got better and better. I would say it took 4-5 hours of play to fully break in but I enjoyed it from the 3rd hour of play.
Generally I really like its' features and I definitely will be using it for some months (boosting experts, second boost when? I was thinking in 4-5 weeks considering I'll play quite a bit less now during the Christmas holidays, let's say every other day?) but I definitely have a lot to say about it.

Firstly, it is quite sensitive to humidity and cold. I train or coach in the evening from 17:00 to 21:00, we have no heating in the gym and it's cold in these months out (let's say down to 5 celsius) (not super cold in the gym but let's say around 15 to 20 degrees celsius depending on the hour). It plays well in the first couple of hours, but when the gym gets full of people (it's a medium-sized gym, 8 tables fit nicely with enough room for movement for high level training) and it gets colder and also humid it becomes more and more unplayable. Ball slips and it mutes quite a lot.

Secondly, it is also sensitive to what tables and balls are used. We use Joola tables and quite heavy balls (we compete with nittaku premium and train with a similarly heavy and hard ball, Naraq 3 stars premium). This is also what I am used to train with and my "ideal" setup or what I'm more comfortable with. I feel like H3 is not really the best for this type of combination. Today I played in a tournament with butterfly tables (that "eat away" some spin and bounce quite high) and balls R40+, which I usually hate because I find them very light and fleeting, in the morning and it was quite dry (albeit as cold as usual during winter): I was impressed on how easy it was to play (it usually takes me a good hour to get used to it with my usual equipment and then I anyway usually feel like I have to play with lighter hands or the ball will fly everywhere). It really feels like the rubber is made for this kind of balls and tables.

If I was used to the opposite (used to playing with light balls and tables that bounce a lot) I would definitely not use it as I would find it unplayable with heavy balls and "slippery" tables. Since I already feel very confident on this kind of tables and I train all the time on them I really don't mind the trade-off and to finally feel comfortable when play away league matches and tournaments.

Now onto the playing:

Serve and receive are a real pleasure, easiest and best rubber for this (I think this is the part that most often wins or loses a match really). Spinniest serves, spinniest receives I have ever given and as short or as long as I want them.

I had imagined the first topspin on backspin would be the most loaded with spin than with any other rubber, but I found this to be quite untrue for me. However, the bounce it produces on the opponent side of the table is very low, very uncomfortable to counter-spin for high level opponents, especially the ones with a lot of sidespin too (I am a lefty). I find it also very controllable to place it where I want it, which also helps, but it is definitely not the most spinny opening.
It never bottoms out though which I love, and I find it a pleasure for varying the amount of sidespin I add to the topspin according to the serve I gave. (Example pendulum serve and then inside-out forehand or my normal lefty hook sidespin). I find many rubbers are very hard to manage in this peculiar shots and H3 seems made for this.


Countertopspin is quite easy as I said, no surprises there as it's a very hard rubber and this is what I suppose it's really built for.
I find it quite pleasurable to block with too (which I do in doubles, not really much in singles). Especially when adding spins and sidespins to the block, many times I caught opponents who were far and expecting a counter with a very uncomfortable kind of chop-block that really messed with their timing.
Flicking is a bit harder, I have to hit the ball harder than with the hybrids, but it's really just a matter of habit.
The rubber is really not fast, even if boosted. I don't mind slowish rubbers and find they compliment well my forehand if they give me the other characteristics this rubber gives.
Tomorrow I'm playing singles, let's see how it goes!
 
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Update:
I have played a singles tournament with it yesterday, and all the previous characteristics are confirmed, especially the fact that it is slow even compared to J1, which I find to be already slower than other hybrids I have tried. It is a very close battle in my mind if keeping on going with it as the advantages (extreme precision and control and spinniest and tightest serves and receives) are quite evenly balanced out with the disadvantages (it does not have "put away" power and I sometimes need 1-2 topspins more to finish the point, and especially as soon as I am not on the offensive controlling the game or the other player puts it in an uncomfortable place, it's extremely unforgiving).

It was also somewhat slower already than last week (just two weeks in total since the application of two layers of booster (Haifu national yellow). I have now unglued it, took out the glue layer and given it another boost (which resulted in a very mild dome). I hoped it would last 4-6 weeks, but if I have to re-boost every couple of weeks I may just go back to some hard hybrid out of laziness (probably k3pro or one of the bluegrips again, depending on the weekly sales on tt11 :sneaky:). Reminder: I am quite new with the boosting process and I may have been too conservative with it, but it gave quite a pronounced dome after the 2 original layers so I don't think it is the case.
 
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Another update on my H3 journey:

The last boost application on my blue sponge provincial (1st re-boost, took off the rubber and the glue, applied one generous amount of booster, waited 12 hours, glued again - it didn't dome much but it expanded and recovered the original size) played well on days 1-2, played fantastic between days 3 and 10 and then slowly disappeared.
It seems consistent that for me the boosting effect lasts about 2 weeks, with around 7 to 10 days that it's really nice. I have used National Yellow booster and I have trained and played always with the same blade. (2-4 hours a day, I don't do robots nor do I hit many multi-balls, mainly sparring sessions, around half of them high intensity I would say).

I have boosted again with the same exact procedure (2nd re-boost), and it seems like the rubber has come alive again (used it for one training yesterday).
I expect it to last a couple of weeks more and neither the sponge nor the topsheet seem to take damage from the reboosting, so hopefully it can take one-two reboosts more and service me for 8-10 weeks total, then I'll be happy.
H3 has certainly won me over, serve and receive are unmatched and it is suche a stable rubber, I feel like I am always in control of what I am doing. There are certainly takeaways: no forgiveness with half-assed shots. Somewhat harder to top spin against backspin (which is my forte anyways so I don't really mind). And it is certainly a nightmare rubber if you play flat, which I never do on forehand so I don't really notice (medium - high balls I have to loop, very high balls I just switch to backhand rubber to smash). I don't think I'm going back to hybrids any time soon, not whilst I have time to put into training.

Side problem: I really love the W968 national feel, a couple of days ago I went back to my commercial long 5 (that has the provincial orange sponge on, not used much, maybe a total of 6-8 hours) to see if I could maybe use that for training at the beginning of the week, but the difference was a bit too noticeable: the W968 is just so much more stable on forehand and especially backhand (certainly more rigid, faster and heavier). But I certainly don't want to waste 500 euros on another W968 national (that I found at half price here in the forum), so I'm afraid I'll just keep using the same blade for matches and most trainings.
 
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