Using Tenergy 05 changed my view on tensor rubbers

[goatdolphin]

For context: I joined a club in march and started playing as a penhold player. Since I can't afford ESN rubbers I bought the DHS PF4 on both sides with a Stiga Azalea All around, and 3 moths later to a H3N (unboosted) on fh and a H8-80 on bh in a Stiga Azalea Off.

Today another penholder form my club borrowed me a racket his friends gifted him, it was a Stiga Dynasty Carbon with a H3N (fh) and a Tenergy 05 (bh). Compared to my H3N this one was way faster and it sounded crispier, but I felt like the ball didn't dwell enough and there wasn't as much spin as in my racket (probably due to the stiffer blade). But the T05, WOW, if you relax you arm and flex your body every block goes back extremely fast and low, you basically dont have to move the racket foward. And the attacking balls were insane, very fast, precise, low and I barely had to use my body to generate speed. The only thing I can complain is the lack of spin, but maybe its my fault because I was hitting more flat compared to when I use my H8-80 (it felt more comfortable).

I've also tried other rubbers like 09C, Tenergy 80 and Dynaryz agr, rozena, Tenergy 19, but none of them have felt this good. Is this because of the rubber or the blade (or both)? Should I start saving 60€ for a Tenergy 05?

 

[Scarfed Garchomp]

T05 is a special rubber for sure, especially when fresh. I'm sure the blade has got something to do with it as well, it's hard for a 5 ply wood to stack up to an outer style carbon blade like Dynasty. Have you tried many other carbon blades to compare against?

 

[mihalichtheone]

Is this because of the rubber or the blade (or both)? Should I start saving 60€ for a Tenergy 05?

Well, Azalea is 5 ply wooden blade with 5.6mm thickness(!!!). The 'crispness' comes from the outer carbon blade (+koto). I think 5ply wooden blades are fine, but not that thin for a modern ball...may be you should start saving for a new blade and keep the rubbers. T05 is an amazing choice for rpb though. Better save for both

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

Oh no! Be warned! .... tenergy 05 will set you down the slippery road towards:

Spoiler: lifetime of addiction

 

[goatdolphin]

T05 is a special rubber for sure, especially when fresh. I'm sure the blade has got something to do with it as well, it's hard for a 5 ply wood to stack up to an outer style carbon blade like Dynasty. Have you tried many other carbon blades to compare against?

I did try a Donic Perrson Power carbon with a Loki arthur china (i think it had 2 or 3 boosted layers) but I felt like there wasnt enough dwell time on the ball so I could't make any spin. Maybe I should try an innercarbon blade so I don't loose too much dwell time on my fh rubber but I still have some speed on my bh.

 

[goatdolphin]

Well, Azalea is 5 ply wooden blade with 5.6mm thickness(!!!). The 'crispness' comes from the outer carbon blade (+koto). I think 5ply wooden blades are fine, but not that thin for a modern ball...may be you should start saving for a new blade and keep the rubbers. T05 is an amazing choice for rpb though. Better save for both
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Do you have any recomendations? I was interested on trying an inner carbon blade like the DHS pg5 or 301, or maybe even the Pg13. I just fell like I would loose too much spin with a outercarbon blade on my hurricane

 

[Scarfed Garchomp]

I did try a Donic Perrson Power carbon with a Loki arthur china (i think it had 2 or 3 boosted layers) but I felt like there wasnt enough dwell time on the ball so I could't make any spin. Maybe I should try an innercarbon blade so I don't loose too much dwell time on my fh rubber but I still have some speed on my bh.

PPC is a 7+2 blade so it's pretty stiff, it's basically a 7 ply wood with thin carbon. Compared to Dynasty it's definitely much stiffer and more direct. I think inner would be good to test, blades like Pro03, Anders Lind are not too fast and have good feeling

 

[mihalichtheone]

Do you have any recomendations? I was interested on trying an inner carbon blade like the DHS pg5 or 301, or maybe even the Pg13. I just fell like I would loose too much spin with a outercarbon blade on my hurricane

All blades mentioned are 'power' oriented choice. H3 suits well both 301 and outer carbon blades.

Of course there's more spin on those potentially, but in my personal experience outer carbon blades always produced more spin on thin brushes. Have a look at the trajectory of the ball from Wang Chuqin and Lin Shidong. Both are completely different, but both are still first and second in the world.

Concluding this I can only add: play with whatever you feel the best playing. If you've tried your friend's Stiga Dynasty, then it's bad news...it's structure is pretty unique and you would have to buy it. But that's also good news, because you won't commit to anything else for a long time since you've invested so much into Dynasty.

I know this comment might not be very helpful, but it's indeed like this: try out whatever you can try, find what you personally like and then stick with it.

Or start EJing like half of this forum does, it's also fun!

 

[BlotOnPaper]

Butterfly makes the best drugs on the market. There are pretty much no rubbers that play really close to Tenergy, Dignics or Zyre. Butterfly rubbers are an addiction if they really suite your taste. For me it's the opposite, my first backhand rubber was 05-fx, than i played 09c for a long time, than i tried D05 but it's not for me, and at the end my endgame backhand rubber became H8-80 38 on flexible inner blade like N301. I can play much better with such setup than with any butterfly products, my natural tendencies and technique are better suited for chinese equipment. So i would advice to at least try playing butterfly as your main rubbers to understand your preferences to make better purchasing decisions in the future.

 

[BlotOnPaper]

Do you have any recomendations? I was interested on trying an inner carbon blade like the DHS pg5 or 301, or maybe even the Pg13. I just fell like I would loose too much spin with a outercarbon blade on my hurricane

Also, 301 is a must try for a penholder. This blade is just pure bliss for this grip. But i would not advice to put random tensor rubbers on 301 as some of them play nicely but some plays like shit and it's really hard to predict before you test the exact pair. For example, 09c on N301 was the worst experience in terms of blocking i ever had with any setup, ball just straight up falls into the net.

 

[Federal_Agent]

Tenergy 05 and 19 rubbers are incredible, superior performance in terms of spin and speed. I tested both on my backhand and I can't decide which one I like more.
Currently I use Victas V22 because the sponge's hardness provides more stability when blocking.

 

[MORTtheORT]

I am new to the T05 and also the FX coming from a tacky rubber background....I had heard that the T05 is a special rubber and only have a month of using it... completely agree. It is easy speed and spin and with the right technique, you get that clicking sound and it is a killer. I find this click very interesting as it is an audio reference to your technique. A lot of people say it doesn't have a short game and is super sensitive to spin...I haven't found this as long as you are active and not passive (not for you if you play passive shots). Also I have been surprised by the rubbers short game. Very capable and lots of nasty spin and this rubber can play fast and slow as long as you focus on your technique first.

 

[Tyce]

I am new to the T05 and also the FX coming from a tacky rubber background....I had heard that the T05 is a special rubber and only have a month of using it... completely agree. It is easy speed and spin and with the right technique, you get that clicking sound and it is a killer. I find this click very interesting as it is an audio reference to your technique. A lot of people say it doesn't have a short game and is super sensitive to spin...I haven't found this as long as you are active and not passive (not for you if you play passive shots). Also I have been surprised by the rubbers short game. Very capable and lots of nasty spin and this rubber can play fast and slow as long as you focus on your technique first.

I would put it like this (simplified).

Hurricane 3 (or similar tacky with a hard sponge):
You can play a passive short game but you need to play active for anything above that.

Tenergy 05 (or similar bouncy, springy tensor):
You can play almost passive loop and drive, but anything short requires you to play active.

 

[MORTtheORT]

I would put it like this (simplified).

Hurricane 3 (or similar tacky with a hard sponge):
You can play a passive short game but you need to play active for anything above that.

Tenergy 05 (or similar bouncy, springy tensor):
You can play almost passive loop and drive, but anything short requires you to play active.

I agree. I have come from H3 and it is a complete shock at how easy looping and fast attacks are with the T05.