V>15 Sticky: Finally !!

[ridderz65]

V15 sticky is like a sticky V22. It's weird still, it's a speed base rubber.
09c has more toxicity.

So V15 sticky is faster than 09c but 09c has more spin?

I guess the V15 sticky still has a lot of spin?

 

[Migzkulit]

So V15 sticky is faster than 09c but 09c has more spin?

I guess the V15 sticky still has a lot of spin?

It's normal amount of spin, it's more like the tackiness is there to allow it to be faster without overmiss.

 

[joshmak10]

It's normal amount of spin, it's more like the tackiness is there to allow it to be faster without overmiss.

How’s durability of V15 Sticky

 

[zio_silvio]

how is it compared to the V07 sticky extra?

 

[jk1980]

just had a quick glance and let the ball bounce in a racket with that rubber a little. No chinese dampening in the short game, so it can't be compared to chinese rubbers or even chinese hybrids. Just another tensor with "sticky" surface.

 

[RAFALS]

I am currently testing V15 sticky (BH only). Too early for final conclusions, but few things are noticeable

1. It feels much softer that its hardness would suggest.
2. To generate power, you must engage sponge. On FH, it didn't seem so powerful (compared to T05 hard which I use).
3. Its semi tacky, not tacky.
4. Its very very safe and controllable, I would say that's the main asset of this rubber. Somehow the ball always lands in the table
5. not sure if the spin is so high as Victas suggests. Nowhere close to D09c, with this rubber spin comes with power, not subtle brush (at least I feel it that way). Fastarc G1 which I've used for last two years still feels more spinny, but thanks to V15 sticky other qualities I would say this is not the case.
6. Very good (as a hybrid) in short game, not bouncy and predictable in short receive.
7. Open ups seem safe due to prolonged grip.
8. Very good block.
9. What suprised me the most, it its very good for chopping in 3rd zone.
10. The throw is very low, much lower than FG1.

Overall, after long search I found replacement to Fastarc G1. V15 sticky is safest and most versatile rubber I have tested in last 2 years (a I tried 20 plus rubbers).

One last word about durability. After 3 weeks the topsheet seems to wear off quickly, I cannot quite tell if it affects spin quality (topsheet still stays tacky). I think it wont last long as 1 - 2 months, but lets wait, as I played a lot with it (aboui 40 hours in 3 weeks). this is what bothers me the most as it seems my rubber of choice.

 

[RAFALS]

What other still in production hybrids have you tried and how do you compare aside G09c/D09c?

I have tried mainly ESN hybrids (Tibhar K3, MK, Andro r 53, Xiom china Guang, Sieger PK 50, Rakza Z nad Donic Bluestar A1 and A3, to name a few). There were not convincing for me, but of course it is a matter of personal preference.

As for G09 and D09c - D09 I have tried both in 1.9. and 2.1 thickness, this is superior and premium rubber, but one must be able to generate own power, esp on FH, which I cannot do. D09c is spinnier, faster, but has higher arc and thus - at least for me - is less controlable, which a key at my level. I simply think D09c in far beyond my level of play I cannot use it full potential.

G09c is more friendly, but much slower and IMO not so spinny as BTF rating shows (its surely not above tenergy). Victas 15 S seems more versatile and safer than G09, with comparable spin but less control that Victas I would say. D09c is different beast, meant for pro players, some people try to compare V15 sticky to D09c, but I think they are different rubbers. V15 sticky is bit slower, has lower arc and spin too, but is versatile and predictable. I think it requires less effort than d09 to generate power and is least 8/10 in every department.

The best way is to try personally as your impressions may be other then mine. All ESN semi tacky hybrids seem be more/less all the same (except rakza z which was visibly slower than other ESn Hybrids), Victas V15 S seems different, you have the sense of power when needed, good feel and grip (nice click at contact) and good (thou not outstanding) spin. Control seems laso higher than other ESN hybrids.

That ia all I can say for now (note that my comparison is generally built on 2 ,5 years exp of Fastarc G1, which may not good base for comparison overall).

Hope it helps

 

[Robin0910]

I’ve played with it for 3 hours now and I like it so much I have to write a review about it.

The weight is alright, not too light not too heavy, I forgot to weigh it but it’s lighter than my boosted H3 H37.
I use it on the backhand on a Long 5 with boosted H3 BS on the forehand.

The Long 5 and this are like bread and butter. Now I know why Jang Woojing chose this for his backhand.
I used to use boosted commercial H3 OS H37/38 on the backhand for a long time and I like the V15 Sticky so much better.
Everything is better for me other than spinning up backspin balls only using a the rubber surface which is obvious since it’s not as tacky.

Speaking of tackiness, it doesn’t really feel like a typical hybrid rubber. Out of the box it only lifted the ball for a split second. I think it’s less tacky than D09c and K3, around as tacky as Donic Bluegrip C2 but it’s been years since I used that so I may not remember well, its weight is definitely lighter than C2 though.
It also shows the same wear and tear as C2 since I can already see playing marks only after 3!! hours of playing.

Now, for feeling it feels like a mix between V15 Extra and Bluegrip C2. It has the dynamic feeling of V15 Extra since the sponge is the same but harder and maybe even the pimple geometry but I’m not sure about that but the surface is a lot grippier and tackier like C2 (maybe I’m wrong since its been a long time since I played with C2).

It’s good for backhand kills, counter loops but especially good for blocking, the best yet out of all the tacky rubbers I’ve used.
Didn’t really try serving with it since I don’t really serve with my backhand but it was ok for that.

What I especially like with this rubber is that it was very good for setting up forehand step arounds since blocking with it seems effortless. I think that’s also partially why JWJ uses it.

Interestingly, the arc reminded me of H3 BS, I compared the 2 and the arc was similar, maybe even lower so at first I struggled with it on the backhand and clipped the top of the net quite a few times but it was easy to adapt. I guess lower arc rubbers suit my backhand more.

Don’t really know how it is on the forehand because I only tried it briefly on it and I liked the H3 BS a lot more there so I didn’t bother.

I reckon if you like slightly tacky rubbers on the harder side, want something on the backhand which has decent control, good spin and more than enough speed for a hybrid, this is the rubber for you.

I do not recommend it if you don’t like tacky and hard rubbers at all, don’t recommend it for beginners as the catapult is quite strong in it if you hit it hard.
In general find I too hard for stiff outer carbon blades. (Not like I’ve tried such combination but I can imagine how stiff the entire setup would be).

I can’t really say anything about the durability yet other than it already showing signs of use but I’ve heard the durability is better than regular V15 Extra which loses its grip quite fast.

 

[SFF_lib]

So many positive reviews on Bilibili.

Was about to get one but for $43-50USD?? It's a control BH rubber good for blocking and passive play.

There are many great rubbers in that category for less: Vega China ($31), K1 plus ($28), TG3-60 ($20) and Provincial H3 38 degree ($28).

 

[Robin0910]

So many positive reviews on Bilibili.

Was about to get one but for $43-50USD?? It's a control BH rubber good for blocking and passive play.

There are many great rubbers in that category for less: Vega China ($31), K1 plus ($28), TG3-60 ($20) and Provincial H3 38 degree ($28).

In China it’s really not that expensive. It’s just as expensive as K3, V20, a little more expensive than glayzer. And its not just a controlled rubber for passive play, its a lot better than all the ones you’ve mentioned as its fast, one of the fastest hybrids I’ve ever tried. It’s a lot more comparable to K3 than K1 plus which really is just a slow controlled hybrid.

 

[andzejgolot]

V15 sticky looks good

 

[SFF_lib]

In China it’s really not that expensive. It’s just as expensive as K3, V20, a little more expensive than glayzer. And its not just a controlled rubber for passive play, its a lot better than all the ones you’ve mentioned as its fast, one of the fastest hybrids I’ve ever tried. It’s a lot more comparable to K3 than K1 plus which really is just a slow controlled hybrid.

Interesting!!

I have seen two reviews on Bilibili, both by well trained professionals. They both said V15 sticky lands the ball like magic, but lacks the power. They didn’t say it has no power it’s fast enough on a hard blade.

 

[hallohallowhatuwant]

more than enough speed for a hybrid, this is the rubber for you.

faster or slower than rozena?

 

[Robin0910]

faster or slower than rozena?

rebound speed is higher for Rozena but overall V15 Sticky is faster than rozena, the former bottoms out too easily

 

[Robin0910]

Interesting!!

I have seen two reviews on Bilibili, both by well trained professionals. They both said V15 sticky lands the ball like magic, but lacks the power. They didn’t say it has no power it’s fast enough on a hard blade.

It’s fast enough on my Long 5 which I’d not call a hard blade.
it definitely has enough power to finish points, just look at Jang Woojin playing who probably has a harder sponge but everything else is the same.
Maybe it is not powerful enough on 5 ply all wood blades but hardly anything will enough on those

but again, I mainly use it on my backhand to set up for my forehand and didn’t play it on my forehand extensively but I bet it’s good there too, especially if you’re used to H3

 

[mikeytt]

awesome rubber, not much tack but really grippy (aka every esn hybrid), countering topspins feels especially nice with this

 

[hallohallowhatuwant]

rebound speed is higher for Rozena but overall V15 Sticky is faster than rozena, the former bottoms out too easily

Is the hardness obstructive for the backhand for normal people? Or is it easy to use on bh?

 

[Robin0910]

Is the hardness obstructive for the backhand for normal people? Or is it easy to use on bh?

I think it’s relatively easy unless you use it on a very stiff blade

 

[Table10Ice]

Anyone tried V>15 Sticky Soft yet?

 

[SFF_lib]

I will get one after my BH rubber dies.