W968 vs Viscaria

[mcfly]

You straight up called him a liar, you think he's gonna waste his time reading ur advice after u insult him?

people lying on the internet?! thats outrageous

 

[Charlesmorris]

For anyone who wants to read this. I currently have a viscaria (95g FH 42 ma long rubber and BH 37 provincial), golden viscaria (95g 40 provincial and 37 ma long rubber) and player edition w968 (92g 40 provincial and 37 provincial) all with similar rubbers hurricane Neo 3 FH and BH, been testing extensively on my robot and match play past few weeks. The viscaria has the least gears, fast or faster even with boosted ma long star hurricane 42 on FH it’s really easy to engage the core, lowest dwell but still controllable thanks to the hard rubber. Golden viscaria is slower due to more gears but has the highest top end speed to the viscaria with good dwell. W968 has the highest dwell, speed and spin potential but it is the hardest to engage the core, a very head heavy blade, and exhausting blade to use. W968 is best if you’re at a high level with good technique who utilises the correct muscles with each stroke. Any incorrect technique will increase the strain on muscles used with a w968. Out of the three, I’ve chosen golden viscaria due to more control from having the most gears, and very balanced blade not head heavy. For 95g and 205g set up, doesn’t feel heavy compared to w968 set up. Its not a cheap option and tbh not worth the cost it’s being sold at now. Unless you’re a professional or TT is your passion and money is not a limitation golden viscaria is best option. Still decent option viscaria with hard rubber on forehand and contact prott for Viscaria blades at 95g, could not find else where. Any questions feel free.

 

[Choosikick]

Wow... i did not know there are 2 types of blades. But how do you find out on the blade ? Thank you for your explanation

Look at the blade from the end and at the location of the carbon reinforcement. If it is under the top layer of veneer, then it is rather a short-stroke blade. If the carbon reinforcement is inside, that is, under two layers of veneer, then it is rather a long-stroke blade. The thickness of the blade also has a very strong effect. The thicker the blade, the faster it is and, accordingly, the better it plays with short strokes and vice versa.

 

[robot2]

For anyone who wants to read this. I currently have a viscaria (95g FH 42 ma long rubber and BH 37 provincial), golden viscaria (95g 40 provincial and 37 ma long rubber) and player edition w968 (92g 40 provincial and 37 provincial) all with similar rubbers hurricane Neo 3 FH and BH, been testing extensively on my robot and match play past few weeks. The viscaria has the least gears, fast or faster even with boosted ma long star hurricane 42 on FH it’s really easy to engage the core, lowest dwell but still controllable thanks to the hard rubber. Golden viscaria is slower due to more gears but has the highest top end speed to the viscaria with good dwell. W968 has the highest dwell, speed and spin potential but it is the hardest to engage the core, a very head heavy blade, and exhausting blade to use. W968 is best if you’re at a high level with good technique who utilises the correct muscles with each stroke. Any incorrect technique will increase the strain on muscles used with a w968. Out of the three, I’ve chosen golden viscaria due to more control from having the most gears, and very balanced blade not head heavy. For 95g and 205g set up, doesn’t feel heavy compared to w968 set up. Its not a cheap option and tbh not worth the cost it’s being sold at now. Unless you’re a professional or TT is your passion and money is not a limitation golden viscaria is best option. Still decent option viscaria with hard rubber on forehand and contact prott for Viscaria blades at 95g, could not find else where. Any questions feel free.

whats your bh playstyle? variation of push, block, slow high arc loops or powerful loops and drive? hows quick transition between fh & bh?

Im using yinhe pro 01 (vis clone) hard fh (39 unboosted) + medium hard (37? unboosted) bh rubber, considering w968 style blade (large head, inner carbon, more control).

 

[Charlesmorris]

whats your bh playstyle? variation of push, block, slow high arc loops or powerful loops and drive? hows quick transition between fh & bh?

Im using yinhe pro 01 (vis clone) hard fh (39 unboosted) + medium hard (37? unboosted) bh rubber, considering w968 style blade (large head, inner carbon, more control).

My Bh style involves power loops using full range of motion so my racket is literally pointing at me at start of motion then releasing power. Transition between FH and BH is fine I believe that’s skill opposed to what racket you’re using. Not sure what your question is on moving to a w968 style blade but what I said before on my previous post is still the same. Backhand will always be easier on a viscaria type blade with centred balance. Transition between FH and BH with a viscaria or w968 is skill, each blade won’t provide advantage in this aspect. Backhand with head heavy blade is harder to execute compared to centred blade. Before considering buying a w968 or head heavy blade I would first learn how to boost your rubbers, you’re missing out on 50% capability of your rubber. Plus w968 with unboosted rubbers will be impossible to play with, a lot of shots will go into the net due to inability to generate enough power. It’s a very exhausting blade with my boosted set up. As said before you with the w968 you need full range of motion perfect technique with boosted rubbers let alone using unboosted. YouTube table tennis Gan and watch the two w968 videos, one video compares w968 to viscaria and his student picked viscaria over w968. The next video they explain how exhausting using the w968 is. Then watch the dimitrij ovtcharov alc review, their students advise it’s a good alternative to w968 and more amateur friendly.

 

[robot2]

My Bh style involves power loops using full range of motion so my racket is literally pointing at me at start of motion then releasing power. Transition between FH and BH is fine I believe that’s skill opposed to what racket you’re using. Not sure what your question is on moving to a w968 style blade but what I said before on my previous post is still the same. Backhand will always be easier on a viscaria type blade with centred balance. Transition between FH and BH with a viscaria or w968 is skill, each blade won’t provide advantage in this aspect. Backhand with head heavy blade is harder to execute compared to centred blade. Before considering buying a w968 or head heavy blade I would first learn how to boost your rubbers, you’re missing out on 50% capability of your rubber. Plus w968 with unboosted rubbers will be impossible to play with, a lot of shots will go into the net due to inability to generate enough power. It’s a very exhausting blade with my boosted set up. As said before you with the w968 you need full range of motion perfect technique with boosted rubbers let alone using unboosted. YouTube table tennis Gan and watch the two w968 videos, one video compares w968 to viscaria and his student picked viscaria over w968. The next video they explain how exhausting using the w968 is. Then watch the dimitrij ovtcharov alc review, their students advise it’s a good alternative to w968 and more amateur friendly.

not buying w968 anytime soon.

saw previous comment: vis vs long 5 represent 2 different playstyles
then this, not sure if joking

 

[passifid]

not buying w968 anytime soon.

saw previous comment: vis vs long 5 represent 2 different playstyles
then this, not sure if joking

Yeah liang jingkun is not known for backhand at all...

The w968 has a great backhand, but it's less direct and more grabby

 

[BIGBALWOW]

Look at the blade from the end and at the location of the carbon reinforcement. If it is under the top layer of veneer, then it is rather a short-stroke blade. If the carbon reinforcement is inside, that is, under two layers of veneer, then it is rather a long-stroke blade. The thickness of the blade also has a very strong effect. The thicker the blade, the faster it is and, accordingly, the better it plays with short strokes and vice versa.

It is good to know. Thank you.

 

[Robin0910]

Yeah liang jingkun is not known for backhand at all...

The w968 has a great backhand, but it's less direct and more grabby

Liang Jingkun just went back to his old Viscaria. It was noticed during the WTT finals or China Smash, prolly because of his backhand. He still lost to a foreigner tho

 

[Gozo Aruna]

Vis for all out aggression. Unlock FEAT: Beast Mode

968 for controlled agression. Unlock FEAT: Dragon / Dictator / THE Captain mode

Gozo: Helping the EJ community since 2021

 

[davidzhang]

I think Viscaria is easier to play than W968. Even if W968 is more flexible, you have to manage to activate the carbon = always be active on your shots. And you also have to manage the "double speed" slow on soft touch and fast when attacking. Not the best play to use if your technique is not good.
Viscaria is fast but "easy to understand".

 

[Louisgenius]

I think Viscaria is easier to play than W968. Even if W968 is more flexible, you have to manage to activate the carbon = always be active on your shots. And you also have to manage the "double speed" slow on soft touch and fast when attacking. Not the best play to use if your technique is not good.
Viscaria is fast but "easy to understand".

Just to give you guys a heads up on how my equipment is going, I’m currently still using the CNT version viscaria. It feels much harder and stiffer than a commercial viscaria. I’ve give to many of my amateur to try and they all told me that it feels horribly, slow, and stiff. I had the same feeling at the beginning. I had to brush a or more than I would’ve for forehand compared to with a softer blade. I don’t think I will be switching blades though because it fits the harder CNT D09c very well on the backhand side.

 

[Fantastic_Muffin_D]

May I know the Viscaria CNT is the viscaria with the Stiga Infinity handle? or it's a viscaria marked version by CNT (appearance looks like normal viscaria, but wood quality maybe better).

 

[Louisgenius]

May I know the Viscaria CNT is the viscaria with the Stiga Infinity handle? or it's a viscaria marked version by CNT (appearance looks like normal viscaria, but wood quality maybe better).

It’s a viscaria but better quality and made with much stiffer wood. My friend told me it felt like playing with deadened piece of metal.

 

[mcfly]

It’s a viscaria but better quality and made with much stiffer wood. My friend told me it felt like playing with deadened piece of metal.

is your club in North Carolina?

 

[Louisgenius]

No

is your club in North Carolina?