What hybrid are you using nowadays?

[SleepyMaster]

I think his opinion is due to the softness of MK--it's 48 on paper but feels even softer, and it lacks "the bullet shot", I dunno how to describe it.
For me, MK is a great rubber with excellent control and spin, but you need to invest a lot of power to perform deadly shots, while K3 is much more explosive to begin with. I have MK on my 2nd racket on FH, and it was a night-and-day difference compared to a bouncy Z2 tensor, it was so easy to leave short serves under the net with MK, spinny open-ups were also incredible, but finishing points was often challenging.

I don’t think MK is lacking anything - it’s technique issue or personal preference if you can’t perform fast shots with it. I can do pretty fast shots with MK on backhand and I’m not so good of a player. Never seeing it as a forehand rubber. Anyway hybrids it’s not about performing “bullet shots” for you as tensors are. If people can’t perform fast paced shots with MK - with k3 they could be even more challenging due to sponge hardness. But anyway it is personal preference and skill level thing

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

no hybrid
using the original - H3

 

[MaggiGoreng11]

I'm inclined to try a few hybrids from Donic and Xiom, but can't cuz of budget constraints TwT.
I still use my pretty F'ed up H3N Provincial Blue, i must say after boosting it, it has became easier to use, despite the effects wearing off. I intend to continue with the H3N.

 

[Airoc]

How is the feeling and playstyle? It's like a hybrid or more towards a tenergy?

Among all the Hybrid rubbers it feels the closest to a regular Tensor rubber like Rasanter. Thankfully, it also has their durability, which is sensational for a Hybrid. There is a thread for the NUZN rubbers with a lot of praise, not only mine ;-)

 

[MatterOfTime]

I don’t think MK is lacking anything - it’s technique issue or personal preference if you can’t perform fast shots with it. I can do pretty fast shots with MK on backhand and I’m not so good of a player. Never seeing it as a forehand rubber. Anyway hybrids it’s not about performing “bullet shots” for you as tensors are. If people can’t perform fast paced shots with MK - with k3 they could be even more challenging due to sponge hardness. But anyway it is personal preference and skill level thing

By no means I think the mk is lacking. It's more about the feeling than being capable of doing something. I'm 100% sure I could loopkill with the mk the same way I do with the k3, if not more consistently.

 

[MatterOfTime]

I'm inclined to try a few hybrids from Donic and Xiom, but can't cuz of budget constraints TwT.
I still use my pretty F'ed up H3N Provincial Blue, i must say after boosting it, it has became easier to use, despite the effects wearing off. I intend to continue with the H3N.

I've used the h3n for quite some time and decided that something less demanding would be better for my game. Playing with the h3n boosted was kinda hard even during training, sometimes I could feel the sponge activating well enough, but it was nowhere near frequent enough to be applicable during matches.

 

[MatterOfTime]

Among all the Hybrid rubbers it feels the closest to a regular Tensor rubber like Rasanter. Thankfully, it also has their durability, which is sensational for a Hybrid. There is a thread for the NUZN rubbers with a lot of praise, not only mine ;-)

I bought one sheet to try it out. It should arrive by next month (by that time, my k3 should be done)

 

[SleepyMaster]

By no means I think the mk is lacking. It's more about the feeling than being capable of doing something. I'm 100% sure I could loopkill with the mk the same way I do with the k3, if not more consistently.

Yeah for forehand k3 is superior to MK - there is no doubt. But many people saying that MK is slow rubber when in reality it is far from slow - it depends on the rubbers what we will compare to it and our wrist speed/ability to generate power

 

[XCS]

Start using yesterday, Omega 8 China and Victas V>15 Sticky, and I love them both.
They are very similar, only Omega 8 China has a higher throw and is faster in the slow movements, V>15 is more linear, the faster you hit, the faster it goes.

 

[Bilge Dogan]

How is the feeling and playstyle? It's like a hybrid or more towards a tenergy?

It is like Dignics. Ball flies very aggresively, good rotation and speed on medium hits. Needs clean technique, correct timing as it will punish you for poor strokes.

 

[Angerer]

I don’t think MK is lacking anything - it’s technique issue or personal preference if you can’t perform fast shots with it. I can do pretty fast shots with MK on backhand and I’m not so good of a player. Never seeing it as a forehand rubber. Anyway hybrids it’s not about performing “bullet shots” for you as tensors are. If people can’t perform fast paced shots with MK - with k3 they could be even more challenging due to sponge hardness. But anyway it is personal preference and skill level thing

It's fantastic that the rubber suits your playstyle this well. But regardless of your preferences, the softer hybrid just can't produce a ball that is venomous enough--much like with G09C, it rather capitalizes on good placement and stability of continuous attacks.
There is no such thing as a flawless rubber, and MK struggles with durability and sheer power, imo. And a ton of benefits, of course.

 

[SleepyMaster]

It's fantastic that the rubber suits your playstyle this well. But regardless of your preferences, the softer hybrid just can't produce a ball that is venomous enough--much like with G09C, it rather capitalizes on good placement and stability of continuous attacks.
There is no such thing as a flawless rubber, and MK struggles with durability and sheer power, imo. And a ton of benefits, of course.

I know a lot of players with tenergy05fx, one of the softest rubber available - that are 2300+ level, they sending such a bullets to you - better quality than many people who used k3 or d09c - it’s just suits them better.

I’m not disagreeing on the point that more hard/dense rubber has higher ball quality potential but a lot more important thing is - does rubber suits your needs and level/technique? Does player able to use rubber full potential? What’s better or harder on paper - doesn’t necessarily means that it is better for you or any other player. I believe that many amateurs would benefit more from control/softness rather than hardness.

But anyway it is personal preference thing. If you feel more confident using k3 or d09c just go for it - we just sharing opinions here on the things that we are interested in 😉

 

[MatterOfTime]

It's fantastic that the rubber suits your playstyle this well. But regardless of your preferences, the softer hybrid just can't produce a ball that is venomous enough--much like with G09C, it rather capitalizes on good placement and stability of continuous attacks.
There is no such thing as a flawless rubber, and MK struggles with durability and sheer power, imo. And a ton of benefits, of course.

Sorry, but I kinda disagree. Maybe on the highest possible level it maybe not be enough to compete, but on regional and even national levels, an softer hybrid definitely can be deadly enough. Keep in mind when I say softer, it's not soft, the hybrid mk is about 50deg if I'm not mistaken, and that's technically a hard rubber.

I would say it's more about preference than capability. But I don't think I would say MK struggles with power, but I definitely would say that it lacks the kick feeling.

 

[Angerer]

Keep in mind when I say softer, it's not soft, the hybrid mk is about 50deg if I'm not mistaken, and that's technically a hard rubber.

Wrong. Tibhar says it is 48 deg, and most of the reviewers point out it feels like 1-3 degrees softer than 48, to which I agree.
I personally play 47 deg tensors on both sides (although with a pronounced trampoline effect), so I don't feel like softer rubbers restrict me by any means. My point is that MK requires a sizeable investment of power to reach decent speed, and that it's rather about "control/spin" instead of "speed".
I am honestly surprised you people are genuinely trying to prove it is a flawless rubber There is no such thing, no matter how much you praise it.

 

[Matt Hetherington]

I've been using Dynaryz ZGX on my forehand for the last couple of years

 

[SleepyMaster]

Wrong. Tibhar says it is 48 deg, and most of the reviewers point out it feels like 1-3 degrees softer than 48, to which I agree.
I personally play 47 deg tensors on both sides (although with a pronounced trampoline effect), so I don't feel like softer rubbers restrict me by any means. My point is that MK requires a sizeable investment of power to reach decent speed, and that it's rather about "control/spin" instead of "speed".
I am honestly surprised you people are genuinely trying to prove it is a flawless rubber There is no such thing, no matter how much you praise it.

It’s not flawless - were someone is telling that? There is no such thing. It is medium hard rubber with softer feel, actually as most modern hybrids feeling softer than they are stated to be. And most hybrids need investment of power - MK does too. At this point i don’t see what are the point of arguing?

 

[Angerer]

I don’t think MK is lacking anything

It’s not flawless - were someone is telling that?

I think you overpraised it a little bit in numerous topics In my opinion, it's a good, versatile rubber, but it has its downsides.

 

[tzifos]

Can anyone claim that Hammond Z2 or QQuality or MantraPro are hybrid rubbers?

 

[Scarfed Garchomp]

Can anyone claim that Hammond Z2 or QQuality or MantraPro are hybrid rubbers?

Unsure about Q because I have not used it but Z2 and Mantra Pro are decidedly nontacky Japanese style rubbers.

 

[SleepyMaster]

I think you overpraised it a little bit in numerous topics In my opinion, it's a good, versatile rubber, but it has its downsides.

Can you give an example, please

It’s interesting why you think so, because I mostly used on my backhand d09c/d05/d80 every rubber has downsides - there is no perfect rubber for everyone, rubber is not gonna solve technique problems, rubbers must suit player needs and style - this is what I state in numerous topics - and that is the totally opposite of “overpraised” something, just because it is some brand/hardness/technology rubber