What rubber should i consider after playing with Rozena?

[sebi]

well yeah but im still a begginer isn’t that too advanced for me? i was thinking about tenergy of dognic 05 maybe, i still want to develop better technique and develop my game not just buy the best gear. I could have bought the fzd alc but i didn’t so i can develop better with the korbel.

Maybe you read to much into equipment.

If you have a good coach and train hard you will have the technique and Power to generate more then enough spin and speed with rozena or glaycer or DHS H3.

Korbel is a great blade and they are really high performing rubbers already.

Don't start to ej. Even if you have the money.

Stick with what works for you rozena and train hard and often.

 

[kapahoo]

Rakza 7

 

[b3N]

my only issue with H3 or d09 is it cannot be used with korbel or any other 5 ply wood blade i tried the H3 national with fzd super and normal alc and + 3 layers of haifu booster and it was still slower than t05 on 5 ply and i bought the korbel week ago so i want to use it for a while before getting alc, i intentionally bought the korbel instead of alc blade so i can handle it better while still developing so my idea is to buy tenergy now and when im ready for the carbon i buy the carbon and keep the tenergy and if i feel its too fast i can get the h3 or d09. Idk if this makes any sense tho…

If you found the FZD Super ALC slower than the Korbel, that's a technique issue. But I think just prioritise spin and tactical placement and don't go over the top with equipment.
If you don't like the bounciness of tension rubbers, you may be fighting a losing battle trying to match the Korbel with rubbers you like.
People will be able to recommend you something which complements H3 that isn't too fast. That's cheaper than buying all these rubbers to try.
The H3 will save you €€€ over the long run, and you can get more spin. The only negative is most European coaches dislike H3 and can't coach well with it.

 

[merlin el mago]

True, to manage well H3 you have to use power from the ground so using legs, core & big swing so not European stylus.

 

[KTableTennis]

I wouldnt suggest him using H3 because he has been using a butterfly rubber and he would have to change his technique to adapt to the H3. I would stick with butterfly rubber. like i said before you should put dignics 09c on forehand and dignics 05 on backhand, since you said the forehand is good and the backhand isnt as good you are litterly THE SAME as me, so you should use this racket set up for sure, it is really benifitial for this style as it provides stabillity for the backhand. and tenergy 05 is too fast for your style, it sounds like you need something with good control and spin for backhand and something with good speed and spin for the forehand

 

[sebi]

You should put dignics 05 on both sides if you like a fast style, but I would def suggest dignics 09C on Forehand and dignics 05 on backhand. and with those two rubbers a very good blade would be timo boll alc, it has a lot of control and good speed and spin, and with the backhand you can just rip through the ball with a very closed angle and it has a good chance of the ball going on as long as you use good technique

way to fast and uncontrollable for a beginner, if rozena can be to bouncy. Dignics 05/09c with Boll alc is way to fast

True, to manage well H3 you have to use power from the ground so using legs, core & big swing so not European stylus.

Might be true, depending on how old school the coach is. Good coach should have no issue teaching the right way

I wouldnt suggest him using H3 because he has been using a butterfly rubber and he would have to change his technique to adapt to the H3. I would stick with butterfly rubber. like i said before you should put dignics 09c on forehand and dignics 05 on backhand, since you said the forehand is good and the backhand isnt as good you are litterly THE SAME as me, so you should use this racket set up for sure, it is really benifitial for this style as it provides stabillity for the backhand. and tenergy 05 is too fast for your style, it sounds like you need something with good control and spin for backhand and something with good speed and spin for the forehand

Way to fast and bet your set up holds you back.

If he wants to stick with Butterfly and a bit more modern and grippy normal glaycer is very good. It´s fast spinny and controllable.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...ower-really-comes-from-in-table-tennis.38784/

maybe have a look in this thread and the first statment,

or this thread.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/equipment-guide-best-first-intermediate-table-tennis-rubbers-in-2026-a-comprehensive-list-analysis.38800/

he didn´t mention normal glaycer but it is probably one of the best well rounded rubbers

I can´t look into your head, but i myself and probably a lot of other players think, that when a rubber is done, its a chance to change to something faster or more spinny. But in truth sticking to the same set up will be better for technical development and match play.

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

1. Do you guys notice something?
2. With Butterfly product, we can easily recommend what is after Rozena or what is after Sriver etc.
3. Why is this so?
4. This is because Butterfly for all its warts and all, has a very good marketing communication process.
5. Their products with its USP are clearly communicated.
6. Its customer segmentation & product positioning are well defined.
7. Product overlap is minimal.
8. Less confusion for customers.
9. What other company has a product matrix clearly spelled out?
10. What other company has a ball flight path clearly drawn out with each rubber? ( Here: Donic deserves a honourable mentioned )
11. Think about what I say.
    NB: Some company do not even disclose their rubber hardness in their product brochure with some vague subjective generic word like hard, mid-hard, hard only. Read: Yasaka
    

 

[Matej T]

way to fast and uncontrollable for a beginner, if rozena can be to bouncy. Dignics 05/09c with Boll alc is way to fast

Might be true, depending on how old school the coach is. Good coach should have no issue teaching the right way

Way to fast and bet your set up holds you back.

If he wants to stick with Butterfly and a bit more modern and grippy normal glaycer is very good. It´s fast spinny and controllable.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...ower-really-comes-from-in-table-tennis.38784/

maybe have a look in this thread and the first statment,

or this thread.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/equipment-guide-best-first-intermediate-table-tennis-rubbers-in-2026-a-comprehensive-list-analysis.38800/

he didn´t mention normal glaycer but it is probably one of the best well rounded rubbers

I can´t look into your head, but i myself and probably a lot of other players think, that when a rubber is done, its a chance to change to something faster or more spinny. But in truth sticking to the same set up will be better for technical development and match play.

@b3N I left the club with the old school coach and jouned the best one in prague with coaches who play and train the highest league in czechia + i will have 1:1 paid leasons with extraleague player once a week so playing h3 isnt. problem its just not suitable for korbel even tho i like the rubber.

 

[Matej T]

1. Do you guys notice something?
2. With Butterfly product, we can easily recommend what is after Rozena or what is after Sriver etc.
3. Why is this so?
4. This is because Butterfly for all its warts and all, has a very good marketing communication process.
5. Their products with its USP are clearly communicated.
6. Its customer segmentation & product positioning are well defined.
7. Product overlap is minimal.
8. Less confusion for customers.
9. What other company has a product matrix clearly spelled out?
10. What other company has a ball flight path clearly drawn out with each rubber? ( Here: Donic deserves a honourable mentioned )
11. Think about what I say.
    NB: Some company do not even disclose their rubber hardness in their product brochure with some vague subjective generic word like hard, mid-hard, hard only. Read: Yasaka

why do so many ppl here rezomend yasaka rakaza 7 like its the best rubber ever btw 🤣

 

[Takkyu_wa_inochi]

actually there's a few pros playing with Rozena

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

actually there's a few pros playing with Rozena

who who who? Come on, spill the beans!

 

[sebi]

1. Do you guys notice something?
2. With Butterfly product, we can easily recommend what is after Rozena or what is after Sriver etc.
3. Why is this so?
4. This is because Butterfly for all its warts and all, has a very good marketing communication process.
5. Their products with its USP are clearly communicated.
6. Its customer segmentation & product positioning are well defined.
7. Product overlap is minimal.
8. Less confusion for customers.
9. What other company has a product matrix clearly spelled out?
10. What other company has a ball flight path clearly drawn out with each rubber? ( Here: Donic deserves a honourable mentioned )
11. Think about what I say.
    NB: Some company do not even disclose their rubber hardness in their product brochure with some vague subjective generic word like hard, mid-hard, hard only. Read: Yasaka

I saw in a thread donic contradicting it self with ball flight path. Two graphs and the rubbers did the exact opposite in what they do in the other graph.

 

[sebi]

actually there's a few pros playing with Rozena

Yup great rubber.

 

[Infernal]

With Butterfly product, we can easily recommend what is after Rozena or what is after Sriver etc.

Try the same with Donic. 😆😆😆

They have BlueGrip, BlueFire, Acuda, BlueStorm, BlueStar series, and a bunch of stand-alone rubbers as well (Barracuda, etc).

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

Try the same with Donic. 😆😆😆

They have BlueGrip, BlueFire, Acuda, BlueStorm, BlueStar series, and a bunch of stand-alone rubbers as well (Barracuda, etc).

Donic also has a very clear product positioning:

1. Acuda series - old school grippy elastic rubber that mimic the effect of speed-gluing. I would say it is very much like the Nitakku G1 or like a permanent speed-glued Sriver.

2. Bluefire series - Modern tension rubber aka tensor. Donic’s version of Spring-sponge ( Tenergy line ). They have M3 ( 42.5 ESN hardness ) / M2 ( 45 ) / M1 ( 47.5 ) and M1 Turbo ( 50 )

3.Bluegrip series - hybrid aka Glayzer’s copycat. Donic first foray into the hybrid system.

4. Bluestorm series - thin topsheet with thicker sponge. The grand-daddy of Zyre03. Super catapult.

5. Bluestar series - upgraded version of Bluegri. Harder sponge, D09C’s copycat?

 

[Infernal]

Interesting, thank you.

 

[Lando]

Tenergy 19 or Donic baracuda

 

[Sanniejop]

Donic also has a very clear product positioning:

1. Acuda series - old school grippy elastic rubber that mimic the effect of speed-gluing. I would say it is very much like the Nitakku G1 or like a permanent speed-glued Sriver.

2. Bluefire series - Modern tension rubber aka tensor. Donic’s version of Spring-sponge ( Tenergy line ). They have M3 ( 42.5 ESN hardness ) / M2 ( 45 ) / M1 ( 47.5 ) and M1 Turbo ( 50 )

3.Bluegrip series - hybrid aka Glayzer’s copycat. Donic first foray into the hybrid system.

4. Bluestorm series - thin topsheet with thicker sponge. The grand-daddy of Zyre03. Super catapult.

5. Bluestar series - upgraded version of Bluegri. Harder sponge, D09C’s copycat?

Which one of those is most like Rozena ???
Thanks

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

Donic Bluefire M2

 

[piligrim]

Tenergy 19 or Donic baracuda

Why not Tenergy 05fx?