Young player seeking help

[Gapuzo]

Hello

I've been seriously training table tennis for about 9 months. Throughout this period, i used simple wooden blütenkirche blade, xiom vega europe df on BH and xiom vega elite on FH. Since the rubbers are a bit worn - out, and I'm really satisfied with my development, i consider changing my equipment. My feeling of the game is relatively good, but i want to have a bit quicker bat so my offensive play improves.

For bh i may even just buy new vega europe df, cause this rubber gives really good control, althought its not very spinny or fast (i could change it to something a bit quicker, but with good control as well).

I cannot imagine playing something with tenergy level of spin on fh yet, but my old vega elite seems to be too slow. I think that i need something quicker, but not too fast so i can still control it.

And we've come to the core - the blade. My overall style of play is allround. I like to slow the game a bit at the start, but at every moment im ready to attack or to counter. I know that i need all - wooden blade to not lose my unique feeling of the game, but I value my development higher than short term comfort of the game, so i could try something slightly quicker.


And lastly - price is important. If its possible, i would like to have my whole set for 130-150 $ Max.

If you have read my whole message, I appreciate it. Please leave feedback if you can help me. Thanks

 

[BlotOnPaper]

Blade: DHS Fan Bo allwood or Butterfly Korbel would be great choises. First for more chinese style feeling, second is pure classic.

For rubbers i can't really recomend anything for your taste, in my opinion you're playing with too soft rubbers, so it's hard to learn to properly spin with power. With too soft rubbers you don't really need to hit through the rubber, so your contact becomes weak, almost "too spinny". But i started playing with hard rubbers and it was not a problem, so i'm biased. A lot of people here would argue and say the opposite, so take this with the grain of salt.

I personally would go with something harder. For example hurricane 9 or 8-80 for chinese vibes or xiom vega X/Europe Hybrid/pro hybrid on forehand, depends on your preference, and Tibhar Quantum X PRO Soft or yinhe moon 12 on backhand.

 

[BlotOnPaper]

With harder rubbers the overall speed would only go up when you hit the ball well, with proper technique, so they give you amazing feedback loop, great for learning and improving. Soft rubbers forgive everything, so you can get away with absolute murder and don't even know about it.

 

[Tyce]

A full upgrade of your current setup would be Korbel, Vega Europe (non Df, so regular hardness) on BH and perhaps Vega Pro or Vega X, or also Europe on the other side.
Despite its name, Vega Elite is a softer rubber than Europe and very much beginner friendly.
Don't deviate too much from what you are playing now, it can and will ruin your progress.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Vega Elite is too soft and slow
change the FH to Vega Pro
Vega Pro + Vega Euro is a good combination

 

[Gapuzo]

A full upgrade of your current setup would be Korbel, Vega Europe (non Df, so regular hardness) on BH and perhaps Vega Pro or Vega X, or also Europe on the other side.
Despite its name, Vega Elite is a softer rubber than Europe and very much beginner friendly.
Don't deviate too much from what you are playing now, it can and will ruin your progress.

So i think that Korbel may be suitable blade for me. But there is a question about rubbers. I heard that Butterfly Rozena may be good choice for developing players, and maybe it would fit my allround style of playing (i tried Vega pro for few minutes but it was much too spinny). But both of my actual rubbers are tensor. I've never thought about traits that make tensor different than other rubbers, so I can't know how Rozena would feel as a non tensor. Supposed that I choose Korbel, Rozena on FH and xiom vega euro - could it suit me?

 

[BlotOnPaper]

i tried Vega pro for few minutes but it was much too spinny

I'm curious why you think spinnier rubbers would be bad for you? Usually people think the exact opposite. Yes, you would need some adjustments, but it gives you opportunity to do better shots

 

[PickleRick]

So i think that Korbel may be suitable blade for me. But there is a question about rubbers. I heard that Butterfly Rozena may be good choice for developing players, and maybe it would fit my allround style of playing (i tried Vega pro for few minutes but it was much too spinny). But both of my actual rubbers are tensor. I've never thought about traits that make tensor different than other rubbers, so I can't know how Rozena would feel as a non tensor. Supposed that I choose Korbel, Rozena on FH and xiom vega euro - could it suit me?

Sure, nothing wrong with Rozena for FH. Sounds like a good plan.

 

[Tyce]

Rozena is absolutely fine. I mainly tried to suggest rubber from the same brand you're using now but that's really not an issue.
There's dozens of nearly similar options from all brands. Pick anyone and it's good.

(yes, I'm deliberately not naming more options because that would only bring additional doubt and confusion)

Also, Rozena is just as much tensor. They just name it differently at Butterfly but anything with some variation of Spring Sponge is a tensor rubber.
Tensor, tension, spring sponge, high-tense, maxtense, it all refers to roughly the same idea that's commonly referred to as tensor.

 

[ThePongCommenter]

With harder rubbers the overall speed would only go up when you hit the ball well, with proper technique, so they give you amazing feedback loop, great for learning and improving. Soft rubbers forgive everything, so you can get away with absolute murder and don't even know about it.

This isn't true.

 

[Amaken23]

From what I read, you have a simiilar style to me (slowing down the game, allround-style game, countering when able). If I could recommend a good combo (at least what is good for me and is not expensive) :
Blade - 729 Friendship Yellow ALC (I know it is a 5-ply +2 ALC, but its feel and control is really good. Not too stiff and not too flexible either. Really feels like an all-wood blade.
FH : Yinhe Blue Moon 12 (Medium Hard, from what I read, about 47-ish degrees sponge hardness) = Not expensive, good feeling, good block and short game, quite spinny.
BH : Yinhe Moon (Medium) = 45 degrees hardness, not too hard and not too soft for BH. Flicks are really good with this rubber, backhand punch and topspin feels good, grippy rubber too.
Price = 729 Friendship Yellow ALC for about 23 dollars for me + Yinhe Blue Moon for 16 dollars and Yinhe Moon also for 16 dollars for 55 USD total. I think it is a good combination for developing player. You can change the setup for completely new one when you feel like your technique is better, of course but if you want something inexpensive, I'd recommend this one.