Andro Nuzn 50 and 55

[Creek]

Probably a little more to the C Rasanter side, but I´ve often seen the discussions about what is sticky and what is tacky and how people disagree. I tried to lift up a ball when I´d just removed the plastic protective foil that comes with it, and it didn´t stick to the rubber.

There is a clear difference: if you take a plastic foil (e.g the foil that comes with rasanter c series) the plastic foil will stick to rasanter c when gently pushed onto it. This does not happen at all with non-sticky rubbers like Dignics 05.
so even though the stickiness is veeeeeery slight, it is still sticky.

By the way: DHS changed their hurricane3, which is considered as THE Chinese rubber, to only slightly stickiness. It seems that they found out, that slight stickiness is better and that the stickiness itself is not necessary to have the „Chinese characteristics“.
So to all those who still think that hybrid rubbers need to be really sticky: perhaps you were wrong? 😂

 

[Airoc]

There is a clear difference: if you take a plastic foil (e.g the foil that comes with rasanter c series) the plastic foil will stick to rasanter c when gently pushed onto it. This does not happen at all with non-sticky rubbers like Dignics 05.

Yes, but in the case of NUZN the foil itself is sticky and would stick to any rubber.

Maybe it´s a nuance in the small margin between extremely grippy and slightly sticky, but my expertise on that is questionable ;-)

 

[Creek]

😅

 

[gianlucamusco]

Probably a little more to the C Rasanter side, but I´ve often seen the discussions about what is sticky and what is tacky and how people disagree. I tried to lift up a ball when I´d just removed the plastic protective foil that comes with it, and it didn´t stick to the rubber.

Hi if you write that Nuzn is similar to C Rasanter, this means it's a little bit sticky. Or maybe is completely no sticky like Tibhar MK? Thanks

 

[Airoc]

Hi if you write that Nuzn is similar to C Rasanter, this means it's a little bit sticky. Or maybe is completely no sticky like Tibhar MK? Thanks

Like I wrote above, the distinction between extremely grippy and slightly sticky is hard for me. Where´s the line? Sometimes it feels like the discussion if a blade is "still" ALL+ or "already" OFF-, and people getting really heated about it.
So better wait for someone who dares make the point if that influences your decision whether you want to try NUZN or not, I wouldn´t want to mislead you with my sensations.

 

[gianlucamusco]

I will try 55 version, you don't mislead me don't worry

 

[Topspinslinger]

Another €80 luxury rubber😂

 

[Airoc]

A few impressions of NUZN 50 after roughly two hours of practice over two evenings.

To me the rubber is somewhere in between C53 and R53. The "hybrid" feeling in touch game (reduced catapult) is present, but it is easier to accelerate this rubber than other hybrids I tried. I have no current one on one comparison, but to me the other hybrids felt too "Chinese" still, even if K3 was already a mile away from the first BlueGrip versions.
Spin generation is excellent, sadly I missed the training match with a defense player to fully try this, and the rubber feels very controlled in relation to its performance.

I hope to be able to play more this and next week and also give some people a chance to try this rubber.

 

[Creek]

Did you try bluestar a2 and can compare it?

 

[Airoc]

Did you try bluestar a2 and can compare it?

No.

 

[Pidoa]

A few impressions of NUZN 50 after roughly two hours of practice over two evenings.

To me the rubber is somewhere in between C53 and R53. The "hybrid" feeling in touch game (reduced catapult) is present, but it is easier to accelerate this rubber than other hybrids I tried. I have no current one on one comparison, but to me the other hybrids felt too "Chinese" still, even if K3 was already a mile away from the first BlueGrip versions.
Spin generation is excellent, sadly I missed the training match with a defense player to fully try this, and the rubber feels very controlled in relation to its performance.

I hope to be able to play more this and next week and also give some people a chance to try this rubber.

Based on that it sounds like a rubber that was made for me. Planning on waiting until the end of August to buy as the season is almost over where I live.

 

[Airoc]

Based on that it sounds like a rubber that was made for me.

Yes, especially when you are happy with the C48 in your profile the NUZN 50 might offer you even more performance, stability and precision and it will not be more difficult to play despite the harder sponge.

But like I said, I only posted my first impressions and I currently do not have any C-Rasanter for direct comparison.

 

[Amayzde]

For the people that are interested in these rubbers but might find €80 too much, they are available here now for €65;

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[gianlucamusco]

For the people that are interested in these rubbers but might find €80 too much, they are available here now for €65;

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De tafeltennis winkel in Benelux & Europa, met alle top merken die besteld kunnen worden

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Pre Order now, shipment from 24th of may!

 

[Airoc]

Two more evenings of practice before the school holidays confirmed that NUZN 50 and SYNTELIAC ZCI is the perfect fit for me.
One thing is the touch of the blade, I tried a new model from Joola recently and thought "Oh, cool" - but the same rubbers on the ZCI are "Oh, YEAH!"

And the NUZN is just a prime example of precision and definetely a step forward in hybrid rubber development. Spin and speed are on top level, this rubber doesn´t hold back and I can play this 50 degree sponge rubber without the help of booster, but it also gives you so much confidence for every stroke. (Take Rasanter R 50 as an example. which for me was a bit difficult to handle: opening on underspin was work, open game sometimes in danger of over-shooting, especially when the elasticity was optimized with booster. Or even MX-P 50, unplayable. Of course better players can handle this, but now imagine those players with NUZN...)

So what do I make of this experience? If the durability reaches the level of the Rasanter R47 and 48 there is still a price gap of up to 25 Euro list price, but that would be justified at least on one side of the racket - so I am eager to find out whether NUZN makes good on that promise of a long lifetime.

Of course, that´s partly a luxury thing, I am far from being a player who needs this level of performance. But I enjoy it greatly and since I only play for fun, fun should be maximized

 

[Airoc]

In case you were wondering how to pronounce the name, New Zone it is.

NUZN - DATA DRIVEN PERFORMANCE | Andro

www.andro.de

 

[Creek]

Wo the video shows, that the Nuzn 55 has ~0,5% more spin than the c53… that’s just measure tolerance…

 

[AndySmith]

Wo the video shows, that the Nuzn 55 has ~0,5% more spin than the c53… that’s just measure tolerance…

A little more spin, more speed though, and only if you hit the ball like Gauzy. That said, I like the idea of being more data driven and making the numbers public. Would be much better if they also explained the methodology in more detail too.

Maybe we can dream that the technology will be available for us all to use at our clubs. Would be really interesting to see if our intuition about equipment is backed up by the numbers.

 

[Airoc]

Maybe we can dream that the technology will be available for us all to use at our clubs.

spinsight.com

 

[AndySmith]

spinsight.com

Surprisingly affordable.