Dhs H301 vs Butterfly innerforce alc blades

[Infinity080]

How does the DHS Hurricane 301 compare to the butterfly innerforce blades like ovtcharoc alc, harimoto alc etc. Im considering an upgrade from h301 and im curious how about different they are

 

[TensorBackhand]

I think the 301 is thinner and flexier and also a bit slower.

 

[Infinity080]

Does something like ovtcharov alc have as many gears as h301 or would it be hard and uncontrollable in the short game?

 

[TensorBackhand]

Does something like ovtcharov alc have as many gears as h301 or would it be hard and uncontrollable in the short game?

It is somewhat hard. I don't think short game is the problem.

But I think it has less catch on your loops. There is always a tradeoff between catch and rebound.

 

[Infinity080]

What about harimoto alc? Is it still faster than h301?

 

[TensorBackhand]

What about harimoto alc? Is it still faster than h301?

Yes, Harimoto ALC is thicker and stiffer.

 

[mcfly]

the ovt is wonderful with D09C. with H3 not too good.
harimoto alc is really bad with H3 also, slow and hollow feeling.

 

[TensorBackhand]

I would recommend you the Sanwei 75 inner.

It is the same composition as 301: Koto-ayous-alc-ayous. So in some ways, it would be similar to 301.

But it is a bit thicker and quite a bit faster.

 

[Infinity080]

I would recommend you the Sanwei 75 inner.

It is the same composition as 301: Koto-ayous-alc-ayous. So in some ways, it would be similar to 301.

But it is a bit thicker and quite a bit faster.

I'm a bit worried about quality control. Doesnt ovtcharov alc or harimoto alc have plenty of dwell time? paired with softer rubbers they should have plenty of control and gears, no?

 

[TensorBackhand]

I'm a bit worried about quality control. Doesnt ovtcharov alc or harimoto alc have plenty of dwell time? paired with softer rubbers they should have plenty of control and gears, no?

Sure, Harimoto is a good blade with decent dwell time. Go ahead and get that one if it is drawing your attention.

 

[kapahoo]

A Harimoto won't change anything for you. The difference is way too small.
The handles are very different though. (I could not get on with the (FL) DHS-handle at all.)
An OALC might be another story.

 

[Infinity080]

Why Do You

Why Do You Want To upgrade from h301 ??? What Is The Problem With H301 Can You Please Tell me ???

I like playing with softer rubbers, so im thinking about pairing them with a faster blade. H301 is really good, but im looking for something new

 

[_ak]

I would recommend you the Sanwei 75 inner.

It is the same composition as 301: Koto-ayous-alc-ayous. So in some ways, it would be similar to 301.

But it is a bit thicker and quite a bit faster.

Revspin puts H301 higher about speed though. Mine 2 species of 75 inner are 89g 1420 Hz and 90g 1140 Hz

 

[TensorBackhand]

Revspin puts H301 higher about speed though. Mine 2 species of 75 inner are 89g 1420 Hz and 90g 1140 Hz

I dont think revspin is right on this one

 

[_ak]

Won't argue as I never played with H301. Just curious how many Hz on average. Bummer they don't make ST versions

 

[Wrighty67]

Won't argue as I never played with H301. Just curious how many Hz on average. Bummer they don't make ST versions

My 91g H301 is around 1260hz if I recall correctly;

 

[kevin.c]

How does the DHS Hurricane 301 compare to the butterfly innerforce blades like ovtcharoc alc, harimoto alc etc. Im considering an upgrade from h301 and im curious how about different they are

I actually did the opposite, I went from Butterfly Innerforce Layer ALC to H301t Main differences, I was a backhand oriented player where i didn't like that on the Bty where H301T was way better with the Koto outer play for backhand. Later got another H301Z.. depending on the feel that you like. Going from a Koto outer Ply blade to a Limba Outer ply blade... biggest difference would be the feel and speed. I do use both types of blade where i like the Limba outer ply on FH and Koto for BH.

What are your criterias for an upgade? Speed? Spin? Feel?
If speed is the main criteria, i would suggest you go for an Outer carbon blade with Koto Outer ply .. eg Viscaria, FZD ALC equivalent. Likewise, I'm using Xiom TMX Pro currently which is an awesome blade with crisp backhand.

 

[TT Lover]

I actually did the opposite, I went from Butterfly Innerforce Layer ALC to H301t Main differences, I was a backhand oriented player where i didn't like that on the Bty where H301T was way better with the Koto outer play for backhand. Later got another H301Z.. depending on the feel that you like. Going from a Koto outer Ply blade to a Limba Outer ply blade... biggest difference would be the feel and speed. I do use both types of blade where i like the Limba outer ply on FH and Koto for BH.

What are your criterias for an upgade? Speed? Spin? Feel?
If speed is the main criteria, i would suggest you go for an Outer carbon blade with Koto Outer ply .. eg Viscaria, FZD ALC equivalent. Likewise, I'm using Xiom TMX Pro currently which is an awesome blade with crisp backhand.

Which blade feeling more flexible, DHS 301T or DHS 301Z ?

Thank you sir.
Best regards,

 

[kevin.c]

Which blade feeling more flexible, DHS 301T or DHS 301Z ?

Thank you sir.
Best regards,

From my experience, the H301T is more flexible and elastic. It works well with medium hard 47.5 deg rubbers.

 

[vivalavida320315]

does HALC have the 'mushy' limba feeling present on dhs limba blades?