yinhe/galaxy Big Dipper

Product information

Brand
yinhe/galaxy
Category
Rubbers
Reviews
9
Rating
4.56 star(s) 9 ratings
Price
$20

User stats

Speed
8.7
Spin
9.2
Durability
8.4
Control
8.7
Pros
  • Control
  • Speed
  • spin
Cons
  • needs boosting
  • gets dusty
Hi guys/girls!

I thought to myself to test a chinese FH rubber just for fun. So to my friends advise I chose the 40 degree BigDipper instead of the 39 and boosted it right before gluing. I removed the factory glue and used Revolution Nr. 3 WBG.

My initial impressions were mixed but good. The sound of the setup was very loud and clappy. Like the ball was broken, or the entire blade was broken. The rubber is a fast rubber with no catapult compared to an ESN rubber. At normal tempo the speed is identical. At high end shots the rubber is fast, faster, than an MX-P. Control wise, first I made some adjustments with the drives and counterdrives. But my loops were always there where I wanted them, and they were even faster. Because of my technique I had to impart more brushing, but It did not matter. My opening loops were fast but had less spin, but my finishing loops were monsters with lightning speed and terrifying spin. All my balls bounced flat. I noticed that my game became more flat hit oriented, due to the shear speed. The rubber surface is not so sticky, it grabs the ball well. After 20 hours it looks like brand new. I clean it every time.

But I had to put it down because I am not strong enough for this rubber, my opening loops needed more power and brushing. So while I tried the Yinhe Moon and said that is an absolute beginners rubber, these are very good professional rubbers, that can do anything. But I'm an euro/jap looping player so my "old" Bluestorm Z2 serves me better.

For $16 this is a no brainer. Way better than MX-S.
Speed
9.3
Spin
9.4
Durability
8.9
Control
10
Pros
  • spiny
  • control
  • blue sponge
good ruber with blue sponge.....great durability whan put plastic protector....great spin and control
Speed
8.8
Spin
10
Durability
10
Control
10
Pros
  • Spinny
  • Fast
  • Cheap
I tried this rubber on DHS Hurricane Long 5 which is a very fast blade..The ball has a lot power behind it, very spinny and fast at the same time. The feel i got is quite similar to the boosted typical dhs rubber. As it is only in the range of 20 dollar, it is my answer to my infatuation to the boosted dhs rubber which is costing me about 30 more dollar.
Speed
9
Spin
9.5
Durability
7.9
Control
8.9
Pros
  • Great control
  • High Spin
  • Fast Counters
Cons
  • unique
This is truly an excellent rubber. I use it in the softest sponge available though I have tried the harder sponges and believe those will appeal to people looking for something more on the hard sponged Chinese end of the spectrum. It's an interesting mix of a soft tacky/sticky Chinese topspheet on an Eurojap type tensor sponge with modest catapult. The idea is to create great control and brush spin on slower loops and serves, though not as linear as harder sponged non-catapult Chinese rubbers. The payoff is that on harder shots away from the table, you don't have to swing as hard to get good pace and spin. This is most apparent in the 38 and 39 deg sponges, especially the 38 deg.

It also comes tuned but plays decently when the tuning wears off. There are also protective sheets if you like them. The rubber has a tuning layer, so you only need glue for your blade and not for the rubber itself. Yinhe seems to be giving the latest batches Provincial level Quality Assurance.

No rubber quite plays like this - maybe Tibhar Evolution MX-S, though that is more tilted towards the Euro side of things and I would consider this rubber even more towards the Chinese short game and quick attack style.

I have used it on a variety of blades, including composites and all wood blades. What blade you decide to use it on depends on your style - I like it on all wood blades, but it played decently on Xiom Vega blades (the whole series) as well.
Speed
7.7
Spin
9
Durability
8.9
Control
7.8
Pros
  • Great topsheet
  • Good grip
  • Soft feel
Equipment
Blade: Yasaka Ma Lin Extra Offensive (Cpen) - 94 grams
FH: Yinhe Big Dipper, Black, Max - 39 Deg sponge - 44 grams (cpen cut with 1.5cm gap)
BH: Andro Hexer+ (old rubber), Red, 2.1mm - 38grams (cpen cut with 1.5cm gap)
Total weight - 178grams


Warm up and first impression
My first impression was - huge catapult effect - It didn't feel like a Chinese tacky rubber.
It took me around 5 balls before getting the ball onto the table. First five balls, my first touch made the ball go 1meter off the table (I normally use H3 or TG3 on the forehand).
I had doubts that this is a 39 deg sponge, feels more like 36 deg. Maybe it got to do with the factory tuned sponge.

FH Top spin
After gettting used to the pace of the rubber, I was able to generate powerful top spin forehand shots - having high spin and power behind the ball.
As per my previous review above, there isn't a lot of tack in the top sheet (I will explain further), but with a power shot, I was able to grip deep into the sponge and release the ball with extreme precision and spin. The feeling of this sponge is similar to DHS Provincial and more leaning towards National sponge! I'm sure the pretune effect is making it so great, so I actually want to test one without the tune, so I will need to wait a couple of weeks and remove the layer at the bottom and test again.
Yinhe told me, they will be making "provincial" version of this rubber, I can't wait for that.

FH Arc
During warmup, the arc was huge - because I wasn't able to control the rubber yet.
But once I was able to control the rubber slighty better , I could generate low arc and high arc - depending on my bat angle and contact point (of the ball arc)
This feeling is the same with a boosted H3 commercial or provincial H3, just below national H3.
It is very easy to use (a bit too fast and powerful for my students though)

BH Cpen Traditional block
I didn't try a SH backhand, or Cpen RPB (Didn't have enough time as I was doing all this in a coaching session)
The traditional block (passive) arc was quite high, but with a power added traditional block, the arc can get pretty low and more tricky for the opponent.
Again the same feeling as a boosted H3 commerical or prov and just below nat H3 rubber.

I do believe this rubber can work for RPB or normal shakehand play.

Service
I wasn't used to the big catapult effect, as most of my serves was eating too much into the sponge, thus pushing the ball long.
My spin was not as powerful as my H3, but I have to say, service is the most difficult part of the game to master, so I do believe if I had more time to use this rubber, I am able to control it fully.

At the moment, I can only control it 50% and able to do ghost serves, down the line on the white line and side spin onto the base white line and off the right hand side of the table.
Long serve was very easy to do, but overall my service quality, placement etc was not good.
There is plenty of spin, so I don't have doubt that the rubber is good for service, I just need more time to train myself with it.

Short Balls/Chops
Getting the ball on the bounce (short balls), I manage to use only the tack of the topsheet and only using the sponge when required. So this is like 2 gears - soft sponge and hard sponge basically. My placement was great, and few times my opponent only got there after the second bounce (wide fh short). Placement - great, spin - almost great.

Chops.
I did some underspin feeding to my students. Extreme spinny. I can use only the top sheet tack or also can eat deap into the sponge. If I go deep into the sponge, my students will net the ball with a top spin shot (didn't adjust in my change of action). I did notice that my deep into the sponge feed, to shoot out faster and longer - same as a Tensor rubber

So I think I need to serve with this "2 gear" action - Topsheet with little sponge, or with lots of sponge.
But so far for both chop and service - I do wish for a bit less catapult effect.

Conclusion.
I think the sponge is too soft for a rating of 39 Deg. I actually want to try 40 or 41 Dec, or 39 with no tune.
The top sheet is just perfect - not too tacky and feels like a provincial H3 top sheet. It also has great grip due to a pretty elastic top sheet - what makes this nice is that one can use the tack when required (short movement or just contact the top sheet), or go further into the sponge and grip the ball like a Tensor rubber and when doing that, you have a best of both worlds (slight tack + tensor like sponge)

I think this rubber is great for players who want tacky rubber but on a softer sponge, or Tensor like sponge. Or Euro style game, but want a Chinese like forehand or play. Best of both worlds and I didn't even know such rubber exists.

The marketing of this rubber states this is a forehand rubber, but due to the soft feel, I would say, this can work on the backhand too. Also the rubber is not heavy compared to a H3 (50grams vs Big Dipper of 44 grams cpen cut). My rating of the soft feel is medium - medium hard, or around 36deg - same as Tenergy 05 +/-.

Also note, this is designed for the new ball. And I have notice much more spin from a topspin game than that of a regular H3 boosted (all other new poly rubber state more spin....I haven't tested other rubbers yet, so maybe if true, this is a pattern).
For example on the more spin, my student uses a TG3 Neo, and tried out my setup. I was choping with a TSP P4 Curl on a TSP Balsa 3.5 (Def+) and with the TG3 he was netting 50% of the balls. With the Big Dipper, he net less than 20% of the ball. I'm sure he will buy a Big Dipper tomorrow

It is really like a provincial H3. However maybe due to the factory tune, the sponge has a lot softer feeling.

Pros:
More gears - especially away from the table
One can play more passively - unlike traditional hard sponge which requires more active strokes

Cons:
More difficult to generate spinny serves
Speed
8.5
Spin
9
Control
8.5
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