Butterfly Innerforce Layer ALC

Product information

Brand
Butterfly
Category
Blades
Reviews
6
Rating
4.50 star(s) 6 ratings
Price
$200

User stats

Speed
7.5
Control
9.1
Hardness
6
Durability
9
Pros
  • Control
  • Nimble balance
  • Many gears
  • Versatile
Cons
  • Price
  • Not for specialists
I outright disagree with the review posted by Omri on basically every single point, so I decided to write my own.
I've been playing with this blade for a couple of months and haven't quite mastered it yet, but I feel I can handle it quite well enough to warrant a review.

Rubbers
I have used this blade mainly with Fastarc G-1 on FH and C-1 on BH (both in 2.0), but I've also done a quick test with Hurricane 3 Neo 39d. This blade handles all these rubbers very well. C-1 still feels slightly soft, G-1 has its typical firm topsheet behaviour and explosive sponge engagement and H3N plays from super slow to loopkill fast.
Compared to Korbel Japan, there's hardly any change in rubber feeling until you hit hard into the blade, engaging the ALC.

Touch and serve
Pushes are pretty easy to get short and digging into the rubber for backspin is like an all-wood blade. Any popups I encountered were technique issues, not blade problems.
For serve I feel I can't extract my level out of the blade yet, but I'm getting closer each week. Spinny, short services are still behind, I can do either or but not both reliably at the moment.

Drive and flat hit
This blade doesn't scream at you to make compact strokes like a Koto/Outer blade will, but making your strokes short and decisive works really well on it. Finding the ALC treshold is easy and it's in a place where I feel it's very natural for amateur players. As soon as I start driving harder, the blade wants to scale with me.
Backhand flat hits are amazing. Getting that little extra kick while retaining control is exactly what I like to get my hits more deadly.
FH flat hits honestly aren't my forté. But the blade is very well controlled and, for my skill level, FH hits land well with good speed.

Spin and Power
I can feel this isn't a flexible blade. Yet, I think that it's not significantly less flexible than my Korbel due to it being slightly thinner. I can still utilize the same feeling and get good spin, though I am still getting used to getting the ball to dip well enough so it stays on.
From distance, it's miles better. Compared to a Pro 05 (HL5X structure) it's more controlled, so when you inadvertently engage too much blade, the ball won't just power out of the blade.
Its power isn't fit for being very aggressive at long distance, but still allows for sudden accelerations and fast direction switching from behind the table.

Suitable level and style
I would not recommend this blade to a beginner unless they get coached by someone who understands how to play with it. It's easy to chase that feeling of ALC engagement and just forgetting to use friction and generate spin, because it feels so good to do so.
That being said, the gears are more controlled than I've felt on other inner type blades (Yinhe Pro 05, Andro Treiber CI) which does lend itself well to someone learning to play with fiber blades.
This blade favours spin-based compact play at the table, up to mid distance. The balance makes it a nimble, maneuverable blade and it fits medium-soft (C-1), medium-hard (G-1) and harder (H3N 39) rubbers well without altering their characteristics too much compared to using an all-wood blade like Korbel Japan.

Conclusion
At 87g, my specimen feels solid yet flexible. I have considered dumping all my other blades and getting another one of these as backup. That's how nice it is. This is not a blade that does extremely well at any single point, but the synergy of its properties is very, very well balanced and just fits for almost everyone in the amateur space.

This blade is not for you if you just want something that smacks the ball as fast as possible. Also not if you want the ultimate slow-looping machine. It's right there in the middle and does most things at a 7 or better.
Speed
7.5
Control
9
Hardness
5.5
Durability
9
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Tyce
I have hit with that one a very short time and I felt the handle on super vis is just slightly less thick, especially where the beveled edge starts near the rubber.
The rest of the shape is pretty much the same, with vis feeling ever so slightly slimmer
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navuzor
Nice review Tyce, doyou feel the throw angle of the G1 changed coming from the all-wood to the inner carbon?
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Tyce
Maybe slightly lower, but not a ton.
Pros
  • Controlable
Cons
  • Bad feeling
  • slow
  • heavy
  • lower range of gears
Not a very good blade that I would recommend to someone, poor feeling and speed for the high price of this blade, you need to find a really specific rubber that will suit good on this blade and have good feeling

some of my friends that I train with swapped this blade because they didn't like how it feels.

for people who like the innerforce style of blade I recommend the Ovcharov blade and the Harimoto blade for more power and speed
Speed
6.5
Control
8
Hardness
6
Durability
10
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steve888
As mentioned the dignics 05 on the forehand and only sriver on backhand. The harimoto was slightly better at blocking but the Innerforce is more agile and direct and feels a touch faster with the same rubbers. They are both around the 90/91 g mark. The harimoto feels more head heavy so I think that impacts agility.
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Tyce
My question was actually directed towards @Omri as I feel like his review is quite unfitting for the blade
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steve888
Okay, I find the speed quite good with harder rubbers 😊
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The best balanced blade i played with yet
Pros
  • control
  • speed
  • heavy (90+g)
  • nice handle
  • ok price
Cons
  • not the best in any of those things
Its probably the best blade when you want to attack with high spin and speed, but still dont want to loose out on controll. Especially great for players who have a good base technique and want to grow with a faster blade.

On my humble opinion it has even greater control than an allwood blade. Simply because there are 2 layers of wood over the alc carbon layer you have a better feeling right before hitting really hard.

I personally use the Donic BluefireM2 on both sides and still have the feeling the spin is not crazy, which is completely fine for me. It still feels really easy to open up the game with it.

The handle is indeed really short, as mentioned here before, but still thick enough imo.

The speed again is really good but nothing crazy like a Fan Zen Dong ZLC. Compared to an allwood blade its still really fast.

And thats what this blade is. Its not the best at any of those points but is really good overall with great control. This probably the best blade for amateur players who are maybe in their 2nd - 5th year.
Speed
8
Control
10
Hardness
7
Durability
9
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My Review of the Innerforce Layer ALC
Pros
  • Speed
  • Spin
  • Control
  • Feel
  • Durability
  • Some flexibility
  • Comfortable handle
  • Designer appearance
Cons
  • price?
A great blade from Butterfly. I personally love the feel of this maginificent blade.
It's speed is great, nothing crazy but enough to hit killers.
The spin is quite something to talk about too, it has a good balance between being stiff and being flexy, but it has just enough flex to provide great deals of spin (with correct technique of course).
The control is also one of the greatest traits of this blade, being not so quick and responsive, it has a good amount of control.
The feel is the best part, it has little vibration, but just enough to feel it.
Its durability is fine too, have been using it for a few months now and up to this point no signs of being used (even after some small throws :D).
The handle is quite comfortable and big enough. Some people complained being too small, but I think it is okay (for mid-sized hands). Also I like the blue colors it features and the logo is also something really cool.
Only thing I can mention as a drawback is its price, isn't it a bit overpriced? Of course, it shouldn't be a problem, because we usually don't replace blades as often as rubbers, but still its price is a little bit too much, in my honest opinion. On the other hand, if you care about that and look after that properly, it shouldn't be a problem using it for years before having to replace that with a new one.

Essence is, it is a great blade, if you need speed, spin, control and feel, you get this. No regrets. I don't think I will change this one, ever. :D
Speed
6
Control
9
Hardness
6
Durability
9
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GregorTT425
GregorTT425
The rating of the speed is also dependant on the rubber you are using. I have used this blade with Tenergy 19, Dignics09C and Baracuda. The blade itself generally did not feel to quick, nor too slow, but it was on the slower side. But my technique could have been inappropriate. It must be said that this blade is not slow at all, if you pair it with a hybrid, you are going to get adequate speed and spin, while maintining high levels of control.
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steve888
Okay thanks for the information. Is this the older model you are reviewing (5.7mm) or the newer one (5.9/6.0mm)? Thanks
GregorTT425
GregorTT425
The one I am reviewing is the new model. I have no information about the old one, so can't compare. You are welcome!
Pros
  • Good speed
  • Good control
  • Well balanced
Cons
  • Thinner handle
If you love the feel, dwell, and control of a limba/ayous wood blade but also appreciate the increased stability and sweet spot of ALC then this is the blade for you.

The cool thing that Butterfly did with the Innerforce layer blade is they placed the ALC layers deeper near the core of the blade. That results in more sensation and feel from the 2 layers of limba contacting the ball with increased stability and accuracy for blocking and hitting as well as power away from the table. Comparing it directly to an all wood blade its short game is great and controlled but when you swing hard that's when the ALC kicks in providing an extra boost.

Slightly slower than a Viscaria or Timo Boll ALC but with better control, feel, and sensation. The only thing I don't like about it is it has a thinner handle. I actually had a friend customize it with a big meaty Tibhar Force Pro black handle and now it's perfect. Great blade.
Speed
9
Control
9.2
Hardness
5.9
Durability
7.5
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Pros
  • control
  • speed
Cons
  • slim fl handle
  • top heavy
Plies: 5W+2AC. Limba – Limba – Arylate Carbon - Ayous - Arylate Carbon –Limba – Limba

Feeling: Medium Soft due to 2 plies of limba and carbon layer more centrally aligned.

Craftsmanship: Beautiful as always. With the new hologram at the back of the handle it looks precious.

Weight Distribution: Top heavy. The blade's shape is little oval and not round.

Power: Good from mid distance and close.

Speed: Off+ (As per my skills)

Control: The ball sinks little deep due to limba. Counters and other control shots will feel good if not used with a super fast rubber.

Precision: Once you are in sync with this blade it is very accurate to place the ball any where on the board.

Thickness: 6.0 mm.

Blade Size: 157 x 150 mm.

Grip Comfort: Since I like slim flared grips this works perfect for me. Others might differ.

Chinese Rubber bonding:
Haven't tried any Chinese rubber on this blade.

Euro-Jap Rubber bonding: Awesome pairing with Tenergy and other tensors.

Speed
7.9
Control
9.4
Hardness
5.6
Durability
9.7
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