Thank you very much for the feedback.
To the issue now, checked a bit more rubbers and found Dhs hurricane and skyline 3 neo. They are good for new player?
Something irrelevant: Why I can't answer a strong backspin with closed bat forehand topspin ? can do same with backspin..
Cause I can't find topic about rubbers and blades for new players shall I make a related topic?
What difference between different blades is? Apart from weight that is always pretty much the same. And what do Off +- etc. that constructors write mean?
Sorry I didn't see this one earlier...
When you face an incoming heavy underspin ball, there are two schools of though on how to make an offensive topspin shot vs this ball and one school that teaches a quick shot that is not really a topspin attack.
If you close bat and swing forward, the ball will bite on your rubber and go down. If the bat is closed to much, the ball might not even make it to the net.
There are two things that make a topspin counter shot vs this ball. Blade angle and swing plane. You open your blade enough (a little past vertical and swing mostly UPWARDS with grazing contact), the ball will go high enough over the net and if you gave it enough spin, the ball will land safely. Most players who face a heavy underspin will open the blade a LOT and swing upwards. fine grazing or only a little solid contact at impact. You need a fast bat speed at impact or it is a FAIL. This makes a very heavy and safe topspin shot that is consistent, but not a very fast shot that will trouble a good defender or put him/her under pressure, unless they are a novice.
The other way a player hits this shot, especially if the ball is net height or higher, is to open the blade near vertical, swing almost entirely FORWARD and vs the heavier underspin, finish the follow through more upwards depending on the amount of incoming underspin. This results in a very powerful loopdrive shot that has both speed and spin. You hitting thorugh the ball with solid contact, NOT the Grazing contact for the heavy slow topspin vs this ball. This shot is fast, has heavy spin and will land if you are in position, your timing and the other mechanics are correct. This shot will pressure an opponent or win the point, but you have to do it right or it is a free point for opponent.
Another alternate school of thought is for mostly junior players who do not have the strength, explosion, or skill to do that shat at their stage of growth. Still, one can still make a positive shot that will pressure an opponent. It is similar to a no-spin or light topspin flick in concept and execution. The player does not hae the explosion or timing yet to create a very fast bat speed at impact to make these heavy underspin or fast loopdrive vs this ball, so the coach teaches such a player to hit through the ball with an open bat, open a little more open than vertical and swing forward, finish upwards. it is similar in concept to the fast topspin, but since the player cannot generate the needed bat speed, the player is opening the blade even more to compensate for the underspin. The result is a fast (or if coach tells player to slow it down some for more control, a medium fast) shot that has little or no topspin. still, if the ball is placed well, like say at the opponet's playing elbow or a wide angle suddenly, it is still a very good shot, an affirmative positive attacking shot that can be used at most levels if done right. Many weak (weak in physical strength) are taught to attack the high cut ball to an uncomfortable location with such a shot. it is still a very effective match shot that will work at their level and above until they get the strength and training/consistency to attack the heavy underspin with a loop drive or safe, heavy slow topspin.
H3 is a good reliable rubber once you "break it in" to soften the topsheet some. Problem is like Richard mentioned earlier, these tacky Chinese rubbers or fast modern Euro rubbers have some rebound (Euro/Japan) or react severely to spin (tacky like H3) so a beginner has a learning curve in the beginning. if he is not being coached, his mistakes continue and he/she gets discouraged. This is OK if a coach can sort it out for the player and teach/coach them effectively, but a player doing the sport without the guidance/instruction of a coach will have more difficulty with such a rubber. This is the pundits' basic argument, which I can agree with in this respect. Where we differ is that with coaching, one can overcome and be effective with a wide variety of equipment from the very beginning, instead of having a rigid defined early equipment path.
We all are right in our own ways on this matter. The pundits speak from decades of experience and have seen their way work for both themselves and their students. Only an idiot would say that the way of the pundit is hot garbage, it works, has worked, and will likely continue to work effectively. It is based on knowledge/experience of decades or experts in our sport. Only a fool would discount and reject such demonstrated success from a professional when he is not even wet behind the ears. I just say the pundit way is not the only effective way, that is just me and I do not speak for everyone.
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