Daily Table Tennis Chit Chat

[ttmonster]

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Also, forgot your footwear from the vids you posted ... ttmonster pointed out i should change my nike cross training sneakers to ??? ... he didn't mention but i suspect he would say the thin soled TT sneakers


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Not really, it really depends on your physiology , I tend to play better when I wear thin soled TT Shoes but I have decided not to because it causes a lot more stress on my lower back and hips . I wear Volleyball shoes by Asics, I have during my time tried different brands but I swear by Asics . Again , any shoe because of the difference in height and sole grip will take some time in getting adjusted to but after that for me I reache about 90% comfort level when compared to thin soled TT Shoes . TT Shoes are made for a reason but I choose to bring them out on special occasions and instead protect my body from wear and tear using other shoes during regular day to day play ...

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

WHOA! maybe i should not catch up with the missed posts LOL (EDIT: although i need to 'feed' my serial liking habit LOLOL)

last time that happened was ... i'm not naming names...

Can live with negativitiy or live with positivity... my life is a horror, comedy and drama all rolled up into one... i choose to focus on positivity and happiness

LOL at me

Well, luckily TTD Troll Wars, the movie, was all live in other threads, but not this one.

And good that they are over for now. But Darth Vader and Dr Evil will probably be back sooner or later to keep us on our toes.


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[NextLevel]

Audi 5000, G!

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

Audi 5000, G!

Hehe. Hadda pull da plug.


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[Shuki]

Ej bug has been bothering me lately. Anyone try fastarc g1? I'm imagining it's similar to mx-s. Non porous, grippy, with not as much spring as most esn rubbers.

If you've tried it does this sound about right to you?


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[tropical]

Not really, it really depends on your physiology , I tend to play better when I wear thin soled TT Shoes but I have decided not to because it causes a lot more stress on my lower back and hips . I wear Volleyball shoes by Asics, I have during my time tried different brands but I swear by Asics . Again , any shoe because of the difference in height and sole grip will take some time in getting adjusted to but after that for me I reache about 90% comfort level when compared to thin soled TT Shoes . TT Shoes are made for a reason but I choose to bring them out on special occasions and instead protect my body from wear and tear using other shoes during regular day to day play ...

I wear the same Asics shoes. Very comfortable and generate less impact to my knees or backbone.

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

Not really, it really depends on your physiology , I tend to play better when I wear thin soled TT Shoes but I have decided not to because it causes a lot more stress on my lower back and hips . I wear Volleyball shoes by Asics, I have during my time tried different brands but I swear by Asics . Again , any shoe because of the difference in height and sole grip will take some time in getting adjusted to but after that for me I reache about 90% comfort level when compared to thin soled TT Shoes . TT Shoes are made for a reason but I choose to bring them out on special occasions and instead protect my body from wear and tear using other shoes during regular day to day play ...

I wear the same Asics shoes. Very comfortable and generate less impact to my knees or backbone.

One time Atanda Musa told me that he doesn't use TT shoes because they tend to cause his plantar faciitis to act up. He is close to 60 and he spends a lot of hours each day giving lessons.

When he was younger he did wear TT shoes. But different bodies need different foot gear.

I like my indoor fútbol shoes (soccer for us Ahmurkhans). But I think, badminton and volleyball shoes are pretty good for TT too. Those thin soled TT shoes, from the standpoint of the health of one's foot, wouldn't be the best thing for most people above a certain age and for most people above a certain weight regardless of age.




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[thekleifheit13]

One time Atanda Musa told me that he doesn't use TT shoes because they tend to cause his plantar faciitis to act up. He is close to 60 and he spends a lot of hours each day giving lessons.

When he was younger he did wear TT shoes. But different bodies need different foot gear.

I like my indoor fútbol shoes (soccer for us Ahmurkhans). But I think, badminton and volleyball shoes are pretty good for TT too. Those thin soled TT shoes, from the standpoint of the health of one's foot, wouldn't be the best thing for most people above a certain age and for most people above a certain weight regardless of age.


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I actually tried regular rubber-bottomed tennis shoes on Monday and didn't feel like the extra mushiness hurt my performance too badly, if anything they kept me up on my toes more. But my knees hurt much less than usual afterwards, so I may have to try TTM's footwear rotation and train in tennis shoes but bust out the TT ( indoor soccer) shoes for when it counts.

 

[NextLevel]

My body, especially my shoulder, is the worst it has been in a while. I am going to take an extended break from playing and practicing and see if that helps. I might still do some coaching but if my body acts up, I will put a halt to that too. Will speak to my doctor seriously about it during my next visit.

 

[Flatstyk]

I am on my third pair of Ektelon (sp?) racquetball shoes. They have gum rubber soles and a pleasing to me, wide toe bed.

 

[OldschoolPenholder]

My body, especially my shoulder, is the worst it has been in a while. I am going to take an extended break from playing and practicing and see if that helps. I might still do some coaching but if my body acts up, I will put a halt to that too. Will speak to my doctor seriously about it during my next visit.

Yeah, shoulder acting up ... yep, i wouldn't know anything about that LOL

A Like for Luck and speedy and healthy recovery... hoping it's not related to your RA.

 

[Archosaurus]

@NextLevel

That sucks. If you were to stop playing for an extended time, it'd be a greater loss than assumed. No one else puts out as much video footage and knowledge. Let's hope it's just a minor issue.


I played 6 - 6.5 hours of TT today. I focused on using the footwork patters that I know, but in games. I can't really say if I succeeded or not without seeing footage of myself. I did reach slightly less, at least.

I helped my partner with his serve, and I saw my own serve on video since a long time. I'm surprised how it looks now: and I mean it in a good way. My partner is developing very well for only having played a month at best. We did some doubles, too.

I've been experimenting with a serve that's a circular pendulum motion, but with a reverse pendulum followthrough. I can serve back/side, side and by hitting the ball on the reverse pendulum timing, reverse side and top/reverse side. It's actually quite surprisingly consistent, but the quality is not amazing because it's a very difficult serve to get good spin with. It's low and short, though.

I've been trying something like this occasionally for well over a year now, and I'm finally landing it. I'm not sure how much actual application I will ever have for a serve like that, but it fools lower players!

I have not seen it on video, only in the mirror. But it's different with a ball. I will have to take a look later.

 

[NextLevel]

Yeah, shoulder acting up ... yep, i wouldn't know anything about that LOL

A Like for Luck and speedy and healthy recovery... hoping it's not related to your RA.

Thanks. Trust me, everything is related to RA. I have issues in both shoulders, it is just better in the one that I don't use to swing my racquet. The funny thing is that this is my best TT level ever, and my body is the worst it has ever been. I just wish I could take my health back to two years ago. Not even 4, just 2.

Will be making some lifestyle modifications though. Usually, I have tried Vegan for my RA, eliminating some gluten but not all of it. I think it is time to try Paleo more seriously, especially the part about eliminating grains. Of course, I can't live without my white rice but no more brown rice either.

 

[NextLevel]

For me, the problem I have with shoes is that I am a size 14/15 in most sneakers. I have settled mostly on the Nike Free sneaker line as I don't enjoy the (lack of) flexibility of the soles of volleyball shoes - that said, the thinner the soles, the usual issues, but don't be deceived, thick soles have their issues as well as the human foot was designed to be bare. Just make sure that you aren't doing anything too unnatural with your knees especially when moving laterally.

 

[OldschoolPenholder]

For me, the problem I have with shoes is that I am a size 14/15 in most sneakers. I have settled mostly on the Nike Free sneaker line as I don't enjoy the flexibility of the soles of volleyball shoes - that said, the thinner the soles, the usual issues, but don't be deceived, thick soles have their issues as well as the human foot was designed to be bare. Just make sure that you aren't doing anything too unnatural with your knees especially when moving laterally.

Up until 3 yrs ago, i didn't realize there's a whole barefoot running movement/craze! Supposedly the Kenyan runners who usually win the NYC marathons run barefoot!

And then there are products like the Vikram Five Fingers ...

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So for all of us, EJ footwear ... try what works for you, due to my overweight lol i will not use thin soled footwear for TT. maybe thin soles are best for you, only you know you ...

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You do you.

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[OldschoolPenholder]

Will be making some lifestyle modifications though. Usually, I have tried Vegan for my RA, eliminating some gluten but not all of it. I think it is time to try Paleo more seriously, especially the part about eliminating grains. Of course, I can't live without my white rice but no more brown rice either.

A friend swears by the gluten-free lifestyle ... another friend does it for 30 days every quarter ... swears his health improved. I've not researched it yet.

Re: The Paleo Diet, our ancestors ate their foods and survived to spawn us ... so lol it's worth a look (i've not reserched Paleo yet either)

 

[OldschoolPenholder]

I've been experimenting with a serve that's a circular pendulum motion, but with a reverse pendulum followthrough.

I have a pea brain ... i cannot imagine this sadly. Look forward to your video.

 

[Archosaurus]

I have some issues in my feet and shins/ankles. For tt, they only really get more tired than they probably would, but it's no issue.

However I can barely run 2km in a Cooper test. I know I could do more, if my legs wouldn't refuse to work after a minute.

I ran my Cooper test in socks, and my performance was actually better than in running shoes. I've spent a lot of time running and walking barefoot. Any kind of shoes just make the issues worse, even with the impact dampening.

So barefoot running, or with no shoes at least, seems to have some real sense behind it. Just MAKE SURE you don't land on the heel whatever you do, but mid-foot.

@OldSchoolPenholder

Something like this. Although mine is bigger, in the mirror at least. I can't tell you what it really looks like.

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

I actually tried regular rubber-bottomed tennis shoes on Monday and didn't feel like the extra mushiness hurt my performance too badly, if anything they kept me up on my toes more. But my knees hurt much less than usual afterwards, so I may have to try TTM's footwear rotation and train in tennis shoes but bust out the TT ( indoor soccer) shoes for when it counts.

Tennis shoes are a little heavy but able to deal with all the forces that happen in table tennis. However, on an indoor court surface they are not as good as shoes made for indoor court surfaces. And there are some clubs that won't let you use them to play because of the material used for the sole.

However, if they work for you, they should be fine.


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[UpSideDownCarl]

So barefoot running, or with no shoes at least, seems to have some real sense behind it. Just MAKE SURE you don't land on the heel whatever you do, but mid-foot.

Perhaps it is a language thing. Mid-foot = Arch. You can't land on the arch. When barefoot running, my understanding is you are supposed to land on the ball of your foot first.

I don't do it so I could be wrong. But trying to land on the center of the foot first would cause you to land flat on all the parts of the foot that normally touch the ground at the same time and that presents a different risk than landing on the heel barefoot. But it is a risk at least as big. And the risk would be to your spine: NO SHOCK ABSORPTION!!


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