Seeking replacement for Hans Alser OC

[SFF_lib]

Hi i have been enjoying my old Stiga Hans Alser OC. I love the flex and soft feel. But the blade has a strong springy kick which helped looping a lot. My game has improved so much due to the much higher consistency and spin.

Unfortunately the top ply got peeled off while changing rubbers. Not the entire ply, probably 30%. Lucky i got a good deal and paid for a Hans Alser Allround.

What surprised me is that the Allround has less flex and feels a bit harder. The lovely springy kick is gone unless I hit with a large impact.

So i took some photos - Allround is the one with rubbers. OC is the one without rubbers. I can't see any difference between the two. Just two beautiful 5-ply blades handcrafted some 30yrs ago.

I am just wondering does anyone know any blade that resembles the feel of Hans Alser OC? Soft, solid vibration, flex and strong springy kick.

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[729B2]

The butterfly Liu shiwen is my best bet just has fiber in it

 

[SFF_lib]

The butterfly Liu shiwen is my best bet just has fiber in it

I heard it is quite hard with little flex

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[balazs1234]

I heard it is quite hard with little flex

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No, it has a soft feel, good flex and very springy.


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[yogi_bear]

Stiga azalea Offensive

 

[SFF_lib]

No, it has a soft feel, good flex and very springy.


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Ok thanks. But for that price i can probably get two Hans Alser OC. But i will keep that in mind.

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[SFF_lib]

Stiga azalea Offensive

Thank yogi bear. I notice you are a big fan of Azalea. What makes Azalea such an good blade in your pov?

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[729B2]

I heard it is quite hard with little flex

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Nope its soft like a wood blade but alot faster

 

[hipnotic]

They are nothing alike. Your version of the OC seems to be Koto-Spruce-Ayous, while the AR is most likely Limba-Limba-Ayous. The thickness might also be different. The spring effect you like is because of the spruce medial ply, so basically just find a blade with a similar composition. Avalox P500 and Hurricane king are a few examples. Although it might be hard to get the same feeling, wood blades tend to get better with age.

 

[yogi_bear]

Supposedly IMO, it has the best feel among 5 ply blades today in the market. Also, it has this really good nice bounciness.

Thank yogi bear. I notice you are a big fan of Azalea. What makes Azalea such an good blade in your pov?

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[SFF_lib]

They are nothing alike. Your version of the OC seems to be Koto-Spruce-Ayous, while the AR is most likely Limba-Limba-Ayous. The thickness might also be different. The spring effect you like is because of the spruce medial ply, so basically just find a blade with a similar composition. Avalox P500 and Hurricane king are a few examples. Although it might be hard to get the same feeling, wood blades tend to get better with age.

I might be wrong. I thought koto top ply gives a hard feel. But my OC feels soft but very springy.

I have attached a photo of the splinted side.

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[yoass]

Hi i have been enjoying my old Stiga Hans Alser OC. I love the flex and soft feel. But the blade has a strong springy kick which helped looping a lot. My game has improved so much due to the much higher consistency and spin.

Unfortunately the top ply got peeled off while changing rubbers. Not the entire ply, probably 30%.

This so reminds me of the "Offensive Wood" Stiga blades I started out with. Including the top plies peeling off, sadly. I think the composition was koto/dyed spruce/ayous/dyed spruce/koto, with the dyed intermediate layer brightly red.

This generation is found every now and than on the second hand market. These blades were very popular, a three or so decades ago, and with good reason. Flex, kick, feel.

 

[bobpuls]

it looks like limba .... but spruce underneath

 

[SFF_lib]

This so reminds me of the "Offensive Wood" Stiga blades I started out with. Including the top plies peeling off, sadly. I think the composition was koto/dyed spruce/ayous/dyed spruce/koto, with the dyed intermediate layer brightly red.

This generation is found every now and than on the second hand market. These blades were very popular, a three or so decades ago, and with good reason. Flex, kick, feel.

Agree!!!
I have a Hans Alser Allround made in the same era. I have no idea why the Allround has little flex.

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[SFF_lib]

it looks like limba .... but spruce underneath

If it is limba-spruce-ayous there are more options out there. Surprisingly the new Stiga OC is also limba-spruce-ayous. I have one but it feel numb with little flex and almost no springy kick.

So I am very confused now.

 

[SFF_lib]

There's a Hans Alser on ebay. Does anyone know how this is compared my Hans Alser OC?

 

[hipnotic]

I might be wrong. I thought koto top ply gives a hard feel. But my OC feels soft but very springy.

I have attached a photo of the splinted side.

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To me it looks like koto. People tend to emphasize too much the outer layer contribution. In my experience, the medial and core are much more important in defining the blade's character.

 

[SFF_lib]

To me it looks like koto. People tend to emphasize too much the outer layer contribution. In my experience, the medial and core are much more important in defining the blade's character.

Ok thank you. What about the core? I found a lot of blades have spruce as the medial layer. They have different core. What wood in the core would suit a dynamic flexible feel with a springy strong kick when looping?

 

[bobpuls]

4 mm Ayous is good for this purpose , combined with spruce as medial ply.

 

[RidTheKid]

You can every now and then also check in at Swedens biggest auction site Tradera (owned by ebay):

https://www.tradera.com/search?q=hans alsér