Butterfly officially announces Glazer and Glazer 09C

[thomas.pong]

https://www.butterfly.co.jp/product/glayzer/

April 1st 2023 release date (as expected)

Grey Spring Sponge X

Glayzer 48 degrees (Euro scale)

Glayzer 09C 52 degrees (Euro scale)

Cheaper than Tenergy: $55

Go nuts!

 

[dingyibvs]

Oooo nice, I'd be interested in the Glayzer 09C for my BH.

 

[thomas.pong]

Also worth noting BTY changed their metrics for their rubbers, they now have Speed, Spin and Arc Line out of 100.

 

[thomas.pong]

Oooo nice, I'd be interested in the Glayzer 09C for my BH.

I'm more interested in the regular Glazer myself, for FH and especially BH, and maybe G09C for my FH.

But I doubt they will replace HZ2 or H3 on my FH, or T05FX on my BH.

 

[azv]

Quick table comparing series:

rubber	price in yen	speed	spin	arc line	hardness
glyzer	6050 (46usd)	81	73	82	38
glyzer 09c	6050 (46usd)	75	87	95	42
Tenergy 05	6790 (51usd)	83	76	79	36
Dignics 05	7900 (60 usd)	86	85	88	40
Dignics 09c	7900 (60 usd)	79	96	96	44
Rozena	5500 (41usd)	83	70	75	35

Tenergy and dignics prices are taken from amazon.co.jp

If I had to guess the prices, I would say 54.99 eur in EU, and 64.99 usd in the US, in both places cheaper than tenergy for big marketing, but not much for $$

 

[thomas.pong]

Price should be between $50 and $60, really hoping for $50 since it will be around $45 in Japan but one can only dream since the US loves a markup.

 

[thomas.pong]

Quick table comparing series:

rubber	price in yen	speed	spin	arc line	hardness
glyzer	6050 (46usd)	81	73	82	38
glyzer 09c	6050 (46usd)	75	87	95	42
Tenergy 05	6790 (51usd)	83	76	79	36
Dignics 05	7900 (60 usd)	86	85	88	40
Dignics 09c	7900 (60 usd)	79	96	96	44

Tenergy and dignics prices are taken from amazon.co.jp

If I had to guess the prices, I would say 54.99 eur in EU, and 64.99 usd in the US, in both places cheaper than tenergy for big marketing, but not much for $$

You're probably right!

How much is Rozena on Amazon JP?

It's always been $40 in the US, was 45€ in EU and just recently dropped to 40€.

 

[azv]

Edited the table to add Rozena, butterfly jpn shows 5500yen, amazon doesnt show price and yahoo jpn shows 3580 (27usd)

 

[TensorBackhand]

I really like the purple sponge!

 

[TensorBackhand]

But what is the product role of this rubber?

The speed is lower than tenergy and even lower than Rozena. So it's not meant to be a top range rubber, right?

But as a entry rubber, its even lower performance than Rozena.

 

[thomas.pong]

I really like the purple sponge!

It's grey not purple!

 

[thomas.pong]

But what is the product role of this rubber?

The speed is lower than tenergy and even lower than Rozena. So it's not meant to be a top range rubber, right?

But as a entry rubber, its even lower performance than Rozena.

It's a Dignics Junior like Rozena is a Tenergy Junior. Also price.
If you think of the role of Rozena and it's price/performance, it's a great rubber. So these Glayzers could be that again but in the harder rubber and hybrid trend. We need more intermediate rubbers in the market even if they're not for you, or I.

Glayzer is about as fast as T05, is as spinny as T80 and as a higher arc line than all the Tenergys. Seems like a good offering.

T05 FX is great on my BH, but regular Tenergys are too much rubber for me so Glazer could be interesting as a harder rubber.

Glayzer 09C is needed for intermediate players looking for a tone down hybrid, or advanced players looking for an easier D09C on their BH.

 

[TensorBackhand]

It's a Dignics Junior like Rozena is a Tenergy Junior. Also price.
If you think of the role of Rozena and it's price/performance, it's a great rubber. So these Glayzers could be that again but in the harder rubber and hybrid trend. We need more intermediate rubbers in the market even if they're not for you, or I.

Glayzer is about as fast as T05, is as spinny as T80 and as a higher arc line than all the Tenergys. Seems like a good offering.

T05 FX is great on my BH, but regular Tenergys are too much rubber for me so Glazer could be interesting as a harder rubber.

Glayzer 09C is needed for intermediate players looking for a tone down hybrid, or advanced players looking for an easier D09C on their BH.

If it was a Dignics Junior, why is the speed rating even lower than Rozena?

 

[dingyibvs]

It's a Dignics Junior like Rozena is a Tenergy Junior. Also price.
If you think of the role of Rozena and it's price/performance, it's a great rubber. So these Glayzers could be that again but in the harder rubber and hybrid trend. We need more intermediate rubbers in the market even if they're not for you, or I.

Glayzer is about as fast as T05, is as spinny as T80 and as a higher arc line than all the Tenergys. Seems like a good offering.

T05 FX is great on my BH, but regular Tenergys are too much rubber for me so Glazer could be interesting as a harder rubber.

Glayzer 09C is needed for intermediate players looking for a tone down hybrid, or advanced players looking for an easier D09C on their BH.

I'm not looking for an easier 09C as much as a lighter 09C. My setup now is 193 grams with a D09c on the BH side cut to a smaller blade. When I glue on a new sheet it'll probably around 196 grams which I'm concerned may be a bit head heavy. The weight won't bother me but the balance might since it feel pretty good now. A softer Spring Sponge X may make it 2-3 grams lighter overall and it'd be perfect.

 

[thomas.pong]

If it was a Dignics Junior, why is the speed rating even lower than Rozena?

Why not?

 

[brokenball]

Butterfly has added a new undefined buzz word "arc line". At least they removed control.
What is an arc line? It seems it is another term like "throw angle" that is dependent on the stroke.

 

[TensorBackhand]

Why not?

Well personally, if I wanted a fast and bouncy backhand rubber, I would choose the faster Rozena over the slower Glayzer.

 

[thomas.pong]

Well personally, if I wanted a fast and bouncy backhand rubber, I would choose the faster Rozena over the slower Glayzer.

Well there you go, something for everyone!

Do we need another Tenergy or Dignics or Rozena? No.

T19 didn't seem super necessary, but hey some people really like it, nothing wrong with more different offerings! Especially when the price is lower.

 

[TensorBackhand]

Well there you go, something for everyone!

Do we need another Tenergy or Dignics or Rozena? No.

T19 didn't seem super necessary, but hey some people really like it, nothing wrong with more different offerings! Especially when the price is lower.

I would've liked the Glayzer more if it was a Jr Dignics that was faster than Rozena, and maybe near or above Tenergy speed.

 

[thomas.pong]

Also, stats give us an idea of what a rubber might be, but feel is everything.

Rozena has a good feel but not a great feel, it's not crisp for exemple. It's not great at anything other than being pretty good at everything, I call it a swiss-army knife and praise it a lot as such!