What the H3LL did I get myself into this time....

[Gozo Zyreruna]

Sat, 2024.06.22 & Sun, 2024.06.23

Friend said, " Let's have some fun Gozo, it is a very big competition and lots of players. You will love it. "

I replied, " OK, friend, I'll sign up. No fret. Give me the form. Here's the entrance fee. "

Yeah right, until I was given the player list. In it are my National Team Players, those guys you see playing in the WTT event. And some odd players here and there from Taiwan, Indonesia, Vietnam, Phillipines etc.

Poor Gozo has bitten more than he can chew this time.

@Tony's Table Tennis

Su Chien-Hsiang, Yang Shieh-Yi & Su Yu-Lun from Taiwan are also playing.

 

[Aizen]

I couldn’t see as so negative, it will be an experience. you already know they are pro, so no need to feel bad after losing.

I’ve also played couple national players in national tournament between universities, in couple points they mocked with me but it was a good experience to see ball quality in first hand.

Getting couple points against them is more satisfying then winning regular matches.

Unless you paid hundreds of dollars as entrance fee 😅, have fun!

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

if it helps

No idea who Yang is.

Su Yu-Lun is not good enough to make the senior TPE team.... and he is only ranked U19, 4th from the back

Su Chien-Hsiang is also not good enough to make the senior TPE team.... and he is only ranked U17, 3rd from the back

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

will post the match here for LOL!

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

will post the match here for LOL!

VIDEO

 

[Tyce]

When I read the title, I thought you were hinting at boosted H3 on your 1-ply 😅

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

When I read the title, I thought you were hinting at boosted H3 on your 1-ply 😅

Over my dead body....

 

[d3nium]

Good luck Gozo 👍

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Over my dead body....

soon, especially this tournament you got yourself into....

well, at least its front row seats?

 

[NextLevel]

Over my dead body....

It will make you a better player...

 

[NextLevel]

Sat, 2024.06.22 & Sun, 2024.06.23

Friend said, " Let's have some fun Gozo, it is a very big competition and lots of players. You will love it. "

I replied, " OK, friend, I'll sign up. No fret. Give me the form. Here's the entrance fee. "

Yeah right, until I was given the player list. In it are my National Team Players, those guys you see playing in the WTT event. And some odd players here and there from Taiwan, Indonesia, Vietnam, Phillipines etc.

Poor Gozo has bitten more than he can chew this time.

@Tony's Table Tennis

Su Chien-Hsiang, Yang Shieh-Yi & Su Yu-Lun from Taiwan are also playing.

Playing people at that level can be fun, they usually don't do anything serious against you once they detect your level in the warm up (or in the US based on rating) unless you magically compete or they enjoy shot-making and want to make you feel their level. They usually just beat you with a control or fishing game, depending on their preference. Good luck!

 

[mightymouse]

Have this thought then: I will definitely lose whatever I do, so why don't I just enjoy myself?

I actually play much better when I play against a really good (high ranked) player, because somehow I play loosely (with no burden, I mean, knowing that I will certainly lose) and the result is I play very well (or they just go easy on me????).

Just enjoy the games and the tournament.

Can't wait to hear how you humiliate yourself soon..... (just kidding)

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

Have this thought then: I will definitely lose whatever I do, so why don't I just enjoy myself?

I actually play much better when I play against a really good (high ranked) player, because somehow I play loosely (with no burden, I mean, knowing that I will certainly lose) and the result is I play very well (or they just go easy on me????).

Just enjoy the games and the tournament.

Can't wait to hear how you humiliate yourself soon..... (just kidding)

Objective No. 1:
Take Video and share with the world. Become a famous Youtuber like Adam B. You all better be my subscriber OK?

Objective No. 2:
Bring along a permanent marker pen a and some paraphernalia to get autographs.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Objective No. 1:
Take Video and share with the world. Become a famous Youtuber like Adam B. You all better be my subscriber OK?

ok

Objective No. 2:
Bring along a permanent marker pen a and some paraphernalia to get autographs.

in fact, bring it to the table and get the opponent to autograph, before play, HAHA

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

My big tourney is a just week away.

You know, previously I have envisioned myself to be a Euro style two-wing looper ideally. That was my desired objective.

Lately, feedback from my mates says that I have improved a lot. I can take on the big boys in my club, not winning them out-right but able to give them some challenge.

Here in lies my little dilemma. I am winning points not as I envisioned myself to be, that is by looping for a winner. I, despite making a determination, am still very much a flat-hitter ( albeit with a little drive) by far and large, rather than as a looper.

My Modus-Operandi It is still very much: push, open-up, block, counter-drive / flat-hit / smash. I stay mostly close to the table. I seldom reverse.

My question is, should I still force myself to change to become a two-wing looper? Or just grow my existing game?


Of course I will not change anything in the immediate sense with a big tourney in a week's time, but I am asking from a perspective of a longer time frame.

p/s: I read about this Tenergy 25 and somehow it matches the way I play, well, if I am to believe its marketing pitch. I am tempted to try the FX version, since soft rubber suits me. Of course I am not going to change anything now but rather it is something I am pondering on.

Come on gaiz, give some luv to this confused brother-in-spin. Give me your guidance.

 

[Aizen]

My big tourney is a just week away.

You know, previously I have envisioned myself to be a Euro style two-wing looper ideally. That was my desired objective.

Lately, feedback from my mates says that I have improved a lot. I can take on the big boys in my club, not winning them out-right but able to give them some challenge.

Here in lies my little dilemma. I am winning points not as I envisioned myself to be, that is by looping for a winner. I, despite making a determination, am still very much a flat-hitter ( albeit with a little drive) by far and large, rather than as a looper.

My Modus-Operandi It is still very much: push, open-up, block, counter-drive / flat-hit / smash. I stay mostly close to the table. I seldom reverse.

My question is, should I still force myself to change to become a two-wing looper? Or just grow my existing game?


Of course I will not change anything in the immediate sense with a big tourney in a week's time, but I am asking from a perspective of a longer time frame.

p/s: I read about this Tenergy 25 and somehow it matches the way I play, well, if I am to believe its marketing pitch. I am tempted to try the FX version, since soft rubber suits me. Of course I am not going to change anything now but rather it is something I am pondering on.

Come on gaiz, give some luv to this confused brother-in-spin. Give me your guidance.

Bit out of topic but Could you add ghost serve to your tactics for this tournament?

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/why-dont-pros-just-do-serve-that-comes-back-to-their-side.34140/

So this topic might be resolved 😅

For two-wing looper issue, my mere opinion, you should pursue that but maybe with small steps, you could try to loop not killer loop more often, while continuing getting points by smashes. Eventually you will need loops from both wings.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

My big tourney is a just week away.

You know, previously I have envisioned myself to be a Euro style two-wing looper ideally. That was my desired objective.

Lately, feedback from my mates says that I have improved a lot. I can take on the big boys in my club, not winning them out-right but able to give them some challenge.

Here in lies my little dilemma. I am winning points not as I envisioned myself to be, that is by looping for a winner. I, despite making a determination, am still very much a flat-hitter ( albeit with a little drive) by far and large, rather than as a looper.

My Modus-Operandi It is still very much: push, open-up, block, counter-drive / flat-hit / smash. I stay mostly close to the table. I seldom reverse.

My question is, should I still force myself to change to become a two-wing looper? Or just grow my existing game?


Of course I will not change anything in the immediate sense with a big tourney in a week's time, but I am asking from a perspective of a longer time frame.

p/s: I read about this Tenergy 25 and somehow it matches the way I play, well, if I am to believe its marketing pitch. I am tempted to try the FX version, since soft rubber suits me. Of course I am not going to change anything now but rather it is something I am pondering on.

Come on gaiz, give some luv to this confused brother-in-spin. Give me your guidance.

against stronger opponent (which one day you would, unless you remain in the same place forever, and no better player improves), table tennis is about rallies, about spin, speed and placement, about strategies.

A quick answer is - to always return the ball, you would not loose.

high risk shot has higher gain, but it is higher risk.
i'm a two wing looper and spent a lot of time to get there, but against stronger players, the ball will always come back and eventually my 5th or 15th ball will not go back in.

It is not easy being a looper, but it sure feels good.
looper requires spin and arc

if you don't spin or arc the ball, then you are a long way away.

I would say, your existing game, that is push, block, counter, flat, is also very single dimensional, as if someone who can spin, faces you, you won't cope.

So, having said that, you obviously need to play your current style now, and go into this tournament and see how it works and/or, how it doesn't work.
you can only learn from there and then see what you want to do for your next step.

End of the day, I would say, you need to have fun first and the rest is not important

 

[NextLevel]

My big tourney is a just week away.

You know, previously I have envisioned myself to be a Euro style two-wing looper ideally. That was my desired objective.

Lately, feedback from my mates says that I have improved a lot. I can take on the big boys in my club, not winning them out-right but able to give them some challenge.

Here in lies my little dilemma. I am winning points not as I envisioned myself to be, that is by looping for a winner. I, despite making a determination, am still very much a flat-hitter ( albeit with a little drive) by far and large, rather than as a looper.

My Modus-Operandi It is still very much: push, open-up, block, counter-drive / flat-hit / smash. I stay mostly close to the table. I seldom reverse.

My question is, should I still force myself to change to become a two-wing looper? Or just grow my existing game?


Of course I will not change anything in the immediate sense with a big tourney in a week's time, but I am asking from a perspective of a longer time frame.

p/s: I read about this Tenergy 25 and somehow it matches the way I play, well, if I am to believe its marketing pitch. I am tempted to try the FX version, since soft rubber suits me. Of course I am not going to change anything now but rather it is something I am pondering on.

Come on gaiz, give some luv to this confused brother-in-spin. Give me your guidance.

They are just talking about your playing level, not really how you play. Because of your relative lack of experience, you imagine yourself to be doing things that are not what you are actually doing and that is perfectly normal. Flat hitting vs looping is not a big deal, everyone plays with some amount of spin at the highest level, even the pips hitters. The looper are just the ones who sometimes use spin as a pure weapon, but the game itself is really about setting up your attack and winning the point. Looping just gives you a way to play aggressive attacks on almost any ball, no matter the placement or height or spin as long as you know how to contact the ball with the right kind of stroke.

It is possible to play topspins off the bounce close to the table and some people don't consider that looping but I do, that was my primary play style for a long time. But the timing is extremely difficult and you need good footwork and anticipation to find the ball consistently.

Tenergy 25 is not the answer, forget the marketing pitch. The answers is to just focus on spin timing for a long time, even at the cost of losing matches initially. Play strokes that focus on rotation and not on speed or power. Over time it will make sense. Playing weaker players especially is helpful as you get a chance to do things that stronger players will not let you do.

When you focus on spin and not speed, a lot of things will fall into place quickly. But it is an approach to playing, not really about winning. It just expands your options and reduces the need to push balls.

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

Bit out of topic but Could you add ghost serve to your tactics for this tournament?

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/why-dont-pros-just-do-serve-that-comes-back-to-their-side.34140/

So this topic might be resolved 😅

For two-wing looper issue, my mere opinion, you should pursue that but maybe with small steps, you could try to loop not killer loop more often, while continuing getting points by smashes. Eventually you will need loops from both wings.

I aspire myself to play like Timo ' the f 3 c k 1 h G magic ' Boll, that is, two wing looping, but I ended up playing, err.... Gozo style. Not sure if there is any pro out there who plays Gozo style. If there is, it would be lovely to watch how this so called Gozo style looks like at the highest level.

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

You know guys, NL & Tony et al,

I can loop and spin the ball, at least during stroke / practice stage. When I am in high stress situation like playing in an actual point counting set, my old habit of flat hitting / counter-drive / smashes just kick-in automatically. It is like I am not in control anymore. It is when I ended the point, then my brain will tell me, " Gozo, you promise you would loop instead of smash "