Jpen TPB tips

[Lazer]

Thanks for posting this 🙂

Don't want to derail the thread, but do many J-Pen players prefer no cork in the BH side?

I've heard recently a lot of J-Pen players actually prefer no cork on the backhand, so I'm intrigued you chose to remove it, and all the reasons why. I'm new to J-Pen myself and am currently experimenting with using it as well in order to better understand it's nuances.

As I understand it, the cork is there only to provide grip and dull vibration. Does the cork somehow interfere with backhand side technique? (I'm in the process of developing up my own line of J-Pen one plys, so all these subjects are of enormous interest to me).

There was several reasons for me doing this.

1. I wanted to test a 1 ply Kiso Hinoki blade
2. TT11 happened to have this blade on special
3. I wanted to use RPB with long pips

I wasn’t really prepared for the backside cork, but it seemed reasonably easy to remove. And it was…

No for me it doesn’t make any difference. The only thing being a little bit more weigh, and maybe a little less feeling.

It’s fine to keep the cork, I think it may increase the feeling of 1 ply by keeping one side naked. But that’s it.

Why not make it an option and glue it the time of ordering.

I put the rubbers upside down to get more playing area, don’t know how legal that is, don’t care really. The red one is Rakza 7 and the black one is DHS C7 with sponge.

Cheers
L-zr

 

[Wakkibatty]

There was several reasons for me doing this.

1. I wanted to test a 1 ply Kiso Hinoki blade
2. TT11 happened to have this blade on special
3. I wanted to use RPB with long pips

I wasn’t really prepared for the backside cork, but it seemed reasonably easy to remove. And it was…

No for me it doesn’t make any difference. The only thing being a little bit more weigh, and maybe a little less feeling.

It’s fine to keep the cork, I think it may increase the feeling of 1 ply by keeping one side naked. But that’s it.

Why not make it an option and glue it the time of ordering.

I put the rubbers upside down to get more playing area, don’t know how legal that is, don’t care really. The red one is Rakza 7 and the black one is DHS C7 with sponge.

Cheers
L-zr

Thanks for that. 🙂

Making it an option is a good idea, but I have decided to move away from doing so much custom stuff, and focussing on pre-made blades instead.

With the J-Pen, I was actually thinking of supplying the cork separately as well with the blade, but supplying it pre-cut to shape along with either some appropriate glue, or else with decent quality double-sided PSA already attached. That way you just have to peel it off and attach it to the BH side if desired, or else discard it if you prefer the bh side staying bare.

 

[Lazer]

Thanks for that. 🙂

Making it an option is a good idea, but I have decided to move away from doing so much custom stuff, and focussing on pre-made blades instead.

With the J-Pen, I was actually thinking of supplying the cork separately as well with the blade, but supplying it pre-cut to shape along with either some appropriate glue, or else with decent quality double-sided PSA already attached. That way you just have to peel it off and attach it to the BH side if desired, or else discard it if you prefer the bh side staying bare.

I wouldn’t supply the glue but a loose sheet of cork would be appropriate together with some glue recommendations.

Cheers
L-zr

 

[jbvttcc]

Thanks for posting this 🙂

Don't want to derail the thread, but do many J-Pen players prefer no cork in the BH side?

I've heard recently a lot of J-Pen players actually prefer no cork on the backhand, so I'm intrigued you chose to remove it, and all the reasons why. I'm new to J-Pen myself and am currently experimenting with using it as well in order to better understand it's nuances.

As I understand it, the cork is there only to provide grip and dull vibration. Does the cork somehow interfere with backhand side technique? (I'm in the process of developing up my own line of J-Pen one plys, so all these subjects are of enormous interest to me).

Since real Jpen plays only one side for both forehand and backhand (TPB), on the backside there’s only the cork directly above the handle for finger grip and for the remainder, a (usually) black paint sheet.
If you’re playing TPB, the cork doesn’t interfere

 

[JJ Ng]

Since real Jpen plays only one side for both forehand and backhand (TPB), on the backside there’s only the cork directly above the handle for finger grip and for the remainder, a (usually) black paint sheet.
If you’re playing TPB, the cork doesn’t interfere

When I played Cpen with RPB, I really missed the cork because, let us be honest, putting your sweaty finger on an inverted rubber is very slippery!

When I played Jpen, the blade was light. My coach ended up putting an ox long pips on top of the black paint sheet. I liked that set up too. When I was too far away from the table, my coach taught how to just chop the ball back with the long pips side when someone looped to my far backhand side.

 

[Azku]

I put together a J-pen earlier this summer and played it for the first time for real Monday. It was interesting, first off I found that TPB was a lot easier than RPB and this grip has an advantage. There is no "pocket shadow" area, seamlessly transfer into FH. And I have to agree with JJ Ng, Blocking is the most important part of TPB. But it can be a bit awkward to angle the wrist correctly.

In the beginning my active blocks went long but after an hour practice it went much much better. I had the privilege to play a "Nittaku excellent 1ply" with Rakza 7 on the front and DHS C7 (long pips) with sponge on the back. The blade had cork on the back side so it had to be removed and I spend ~hour a day for a week too scrape it off. I used my nails and a sharp knife, It went really well. Wen I managed to set a few RPB backhands my partner was surprised at the flat trajectory.

If I was starting now, for sure I would select penhold.

Cheers
L-zr

It's interesting that you use LP at the BH side and use RPB.
Mind telling me how you usually do that? Typically people use inverted for RPB because they want to produce the spin.
I'm putting LP on my BH too because double inverted setup is just too heavy for me. I like light setup. So I'm interested to know how you incorporate RPB LP in your play.

 

[jbvttcc]

A little concern that RPB is being discussed in a thread that was intended to be about TPB

 

[PenHoldSandro]

A little concern that RPB is being discussed in a thread that was intended to be about TPB

FR, for me TPB is just block punch chop block, RPB attacks

 

[olive-nguyen]

When I played Cpen with RPB, I really missed the cork because, let us be honest, putting your sweaty finger on an inverted rubber is very slippery!

When I played Jpen, the blade was light. My coach ended up putting an ox long pips on top of the black paint sheet. I liked that set up too. When I was too far away from the table, my coach taught how to just chop the ball back with the long pips side when someone looped to my far backhand side.

Well that was something I used to do. Until I got inverted for topspin rpb

 

[olive-nguyen]

As former exclusively tpb player. I suggest you look and learn from the legendary Kim Taek Soo. In his prime, even into the late 90s and early 200s, he was a beast. I suggest look at the year 2000 match he had with Liu Guoliang. He lost in the end but it was such a close fight. Mind you the amount of nets in that game.

For me I mostly just block on the backhand and learn drive techniques by watching the ryu seung min instructional videos, in the PD something channel.

This is another good video.

Try to learn chop blocks too. Try to find Ma Lin for that.

 

[olive-nguyen]

It was also interesting to find out he used Bryce during early to mid 2000s. I thought he used something like Sriver. Tenergy 05 which is somehow synonymous with Ryu only came out in 2008, and by 2014 he left the ranked scene. So this was an interesting fact learn from the video.

 

[Lazer]

It's interesting that you use LP at the BH side and use RPB.
Mind telling me how you usually do that? Typically people use inverted for RPB because they want to produce the spin.
I'm putting LP on my BH too because double inverted setup is just too heavy for me. I like light setup. So I'm interested to know how you incorporate RPB LP in your play.

It's a setup just for fun, I normally play shake hand double inverted. I dont really know how to play RPB, but its working OK anyway. I am not looking for spin... With LP You would do a lot of (chop) blocking

Cheers
L-zr

 

[PenHoldSandro]

It was also interesting to find out he used Bryce during early to mid 2000s. I thought he used something like Sriver. Tenergy 05 which is somehow synonymous with Ryu only came out in 2008, and by 2014 he left the ranked scene. So this was an interesting fact learn from the video.

Yeah, how is ryu related to T05 if he didnt use it against wang hao in athens

 

[Lando]