Harimoto Innerforce Super ALC

[Aijaz_000]

Hi Guys!

Hope you all are doing well!

Any experience/ reviews for Harimoto Innerforce Super ALC?

I also would like to understand what rubbers would fit this blade well in your opinion.

Given the fact the Harimotos use D05 on both sides

Cheers!

 

[TampaBayTableTennis]

No, but I have one on backorder (anatomic) and it should be here in 1-2 weeks.

I have a sheet of D05 to try the full Harimoto experience and I will have D80 on the BH normally. Depending on how D05 feels on FH I will keep it on or put H3. Prob try an 09c for fun at some point too. We'll see what the blade feels like.

Looking forward to hear anyone's reviews.

 

[Aijaz_000]

Looking forward to your review

No, but I have one on backorder (anatomic) and it should be here in 1-2 weeks.

I have a sheet of D05 to try the full Harimoto experience and I will have D80 on the BH normally. Depending on how D05 feels on FH I will keep it on or put H3. Prob try an 09c for fun at some point too. We'll see what the blade feels like.

Looking forward to hear anyone's reviews.

 

[joesan-tt]

I did not know there is a super alc Harimoto. What is the difference between this and the Harimoto alc?

 

[disaster3]

Almost a month and nobody played it!?😱
Seems it will not be hot. Good, I will save a bit money 🤣🤣🤣

 

[Tembel]

Almost a month and nobody played it!?😱
Seems it will not be hot. Good, I will save a bit money 🤣🤣🤣

I do not think it has been available for a month. It was revealed, but not available in store until recently I believe.

 

[Mumon]

I bought one in Japan. 91,4g. K3 Pro on fh and bh. It works well with harder rubbers, has serious dwell time and a very pronounced kick. Almost like a W968. It was harder for me to activate on the bh side than my Apolonia. Throw angle is noticably higher than my Apo, so blocking and countering is harder. Loopkilling a backspin ball is also harder, but yields greater results if done correctly. Spinny openups are extremely high quality.
So: Feels a little muted on slow shots with hard rubbers, but comes alive at higher gears.

All in all a very good blade.

 

[andzejgolot]

Tibhar Drinkhall Powerspin is 90% of Super Viscaria
Gewo made inner Kevlar koto blade and it plays like slower softer Super Viscaria
People are tired from BS.
Harimoto super zlc, inner zlc? He didnt even try to use them. Omar Assar use Harimoto ZLC and it would be his personal blade but Butterfly still treat us like leftovers. I AM amateur player and I found there is too much super expensive fast blades and lack of slower- good feeling composite blades. I like using super Mizutani zlc because it makes myself a part of Interstellar/ Apollo 11 movie but in competition I use their old Vectran products ( bazelart, Spark, inner al) and inner alcs but I know they dont have good feeling blades except Revoldia which is expensive and I know super alc harimoto wouldnt change anything

 

[Aijaz_000]

I did not know there is a super alc Harimoto. What is the difference between this and the Harimoto alc?

The ALC layer is different, the new blade uses SALC instead of ALC. I also have read there is a difference in core thickness as well.

 

[Aijaz_000]

I bought one in Japan. 91,4g. K3 Pro on fh and bh. It works well with harder rubbers, has serious dwell time and a very pronounced kick. Almost like a W968. It was harder for me to activate on the bh side than my Apolonia. Throw angle is noticably higher than my Apo, so blocking and countering is harder. Loopkilling a backspin ball is also harder, but yields greater results if done correctly. Spinny openups are extremely high quality.
So: Feels a little muted on slow shots with hard rubbers, but comes alive at higher gears.

All in all a very good blade.

Damn, thats quite heavy, almost going into W968 territory in terms of weight.
I if were to buy one (iff ) i would look at 87-88 g of weight, keeping in mind the SALC layer.

Regarding the high throw, could it be because of the K3 Pro? Since i believe the K3 pro has a slightly high throw, compounded by the limba outer layer leading to even higher throw.

Thanks a ton for the review btw

 

[Aijaz_000]

Tibhar Drinkhall Powerspin is 90% of Super Viscaria
Gewo made inner Kevlar koto blade and it plays like slower softer Super Viscaria
People are tired from BS.
Harimoto super zlc, inner zlc? He didnt even try to use them. Omar Assar use Harimoto ZLC and it would be his personal blade but Butterfly still treat us like leftovers. I AM amateur player and I found there is too much super expensive fast blades and lack of slower- good feeling composite blades. I like using super Mizutani zlc because it makes myself a part of Interstellar/ Apollo 11 movie but in competition I use their old Vectran products ( bazelart, Spark, inner al) and inner alcs but I know they dont have good feeling blades except Revoldia which is expensive and I know super alc harimoto wouldnt change anything

I use a Lingaoyuan ALC, its a much slower and softer viscaria type blade.
It gives me good feeling for a composite blade, you could try it.

Unfortunately the partnership btwn LGY and BTY has ended so the blade is no longer being produced.

 

[Mumon]

Damn, thats quite heavy, almost going into W968 territory in terms of weight.
I if were to buy one (iff ) i would look at 87-88 g of weight, keeping in mind the SALC layer.

Regarding the high throw, could it be because of the K3 Pro? Since i believe the K3 pro has a slightly high throw, compounded by the limba outer layer leading to even higher throw.

Thanks a ton for the review btw

The K3 pro on my Apo has a low throw. That combo is a counter topspin machine.

 

[disaster3]

I do not think it has been available for a month. It was revealed, but not available in store until recently I believe.

Shit, I thought I save something, but it tempts me…

 

[Silver Server]

I use a Lingaoyuan ALC, its a much slower and softer viscaria type blade.
It gives me good feeling for a composite blade, you could try it.

Unfortunately the partnership btwn LGY and BTY has ended so the blade is no longer being produced.

You can try Lin’s blades from his Yuan Jian brand to compare

 

[Aijaz_000]

You can try Lin’s blades from his Yuan Jian brand to compare

I have seen the reviews on TTD, most of them indicate its quite stiff unlike the BTY LGY.

 

[TampaBayTableTennis]

Got mine in the mail! Can't wait to try it out!!!

Going to put Forehand: Dignics 05 - 2.1 (had it already) and Dignics 80 - 1.9 (love this rubber and will use on backhand for foreseeable future). Then if I decide to use it as main blade I will prob change to H3 on forehand since I've been happy with it, but we will see what D05 feels like (true Harimoto experience).

Happy with my Viscaria at the moment with H3/D80. Using D05 and D80 on the Harimoto Super ALC will give me a baseline for comparison between blades.

Since the thickness is different for the D80 vs D05 it won't be a direct comparison there but I already have a feel for the differences between them.

D05 is better with more closed angle and forward spin, more aggressive grab and launch factor. Tricky in rallies sometimes if body position gets too upright or blade angle too open because ball launches high and long. Better for aggressive shots and slightly further back relative to D80 (also partly due to D05 2.1 vs D80 1.9). More effort and finesse needed to keep blocks on table vs very strong/spinny shots. Better for players who keep aggression and pressure on using forward spin shots.

Dignics 80 allows for a more open blade angle and flatter contact, which suits my backhand better because I mostly open and punch or block/control on that side. Also, the fade backhand swipe to cover middle is legitimately easy to do with Dignics 80 and it punches like a dream! I find blocking to be fairly easy to control. I chose the D80 1.9 after using the D05 2.1 for a bit because I wanted to make it easier to keep blocks and attacks from going long/high. I also perceive the 1.9 to give me a better feel of the blade whereas the D05 2.1 feels like a lot of sponge/rubber in between blade and ball in comparison.

[Just some random thoughts. These findings are based on my Viscaria, will see what they are like on Harimoto]

Unboxing video (with music):

 

[beeray1]

I ended up succumbing to the urge and bought myself one. My main Harimoto ALC is getting quite tattered and my backup is messed up enough it might not even be legal so I justified it by saying it was time for a new one anyway 😂.

I have not spent much time with it and I'm hesitant to really use it because of the next few months worth of tournaments on top of how comfortable I am on my normal racket combo. But I think I will try anyway, maybe even just use it at a tournament to see how it feels when it matters. I just don't think my usual MX-S is as good of a combination with it as it is on the regular ALC and I don't want to mess around with rubber again. I do appreciate that it just feels like a slightly more solid and more powerful version of the same thing I'm using. I didn't want it to feel too different because the original does fit my game really well. At the same time, I have been surprised a few times at the power that comes out of the new one and it has a really good feeling. After I play more with it I'll actually have some better comments hopefully.

 

[Aijaz_000]

Got mine in the mail! Can't wait to try it out!!!

Going to put Forehand: Dignics 05 - 2.1 (had it already) and Dignics 80 - 1.9 (love this rubber and will use on backhand for foreseeable future). Then if I decide to use it as main blade I will prob change to H3 on forehand since I've been happy with it, but we will see what D05 feels like (true Harimoto experience).

Happy with my Viscaria at the moment with H3/D80. Using D05 and D80 on the Harimoto Super ALC will give me a baseline for comparison between blades.

Since the thickness is different for the D80 vs D05 it won't be a direct comparison there but I already have a feel for the differences between them.

D05 is better with more closed angle and forward spin, more aggressive grab and launch factor. Tricky in rallies sometimes if body position gets too upright or blade angle too open because ball launches high and long. Better for aggressive shots and slightly further back relative to D80 (also partly due to D05 2.1 vs D80 1.9). More effort and finesse needed to keep blocks on table vs very strong/spinny shots. Better for players who keep aggression and pressure on using forward spin shots.

Dignics 80 allows for a more open blade angle and flatter contact, which suits my backhand better because I mostly open and punch or block/control on that side. Also, the fade backhand swipe to cover middle is legitimately easy to do with Dignics 80 and it punches like a dream! I find blocking to be fairly easy to control. I chose the D80 1.9 after using the D05 2.1 for a bit because I wanted to make it easier to keep blocks and attacks from going long/high. I also perceive the 1.9 to give me a better feel of the blade whereas the D05 2.1 feels like a lot of sponge/rubber in between blade and ball in comparison.

[Just some random thoughts. These findings are based on my Viscaria, will see what they are like on Harimoto]

Unboxing video (with music):

Looking good B-)
Did you happen to weigh it?

 

[rbtitco]

Tibhar Drinkhall Powerspin is 90% of Super Viscaria
Gewo made inner Kevlar koto blade and it plays like slower softer Super Viscaria
People are tired from BS.
Harimoto super zlc, inner zlc? He didnt even try to use them. Omar Assar use Harimoto ZLC and it would be his personal blade but Butterfly still treat us like leftovers. I AM amateur player and I found there is too much super expensive fast blades and lack of slower- good feeling composite blades. I like using super Mizutani zlc because it makes myself a part of Interstellar/ Apollo 11 movie but in competition I use their old Vectran products ( bazelart, Spark, inner al) and inner alcs but I know they dont have good feeling blades except Revoldia which is expensive and I know super alc harimoto wouldnt change anything

So you have not tried it? Thank you.

 

[andzejgolot]

So you have not tried it? Thank you.

I dont have time to try it. I AM winner, and harimoto is 1800 looser. Quadro Aruno beat him with Gewo blade and rubber and he didnt change equipment. Be like African King not a slave