Yinhe Jupiter 3 Amazing Rubber

[longle]

Okay thanks for the insight. How do you rate J3 tour between other chinese BS rubbers which are not H3N, say B2 BS Nat or Rxton IX?

I would rate the rubbers I played as follow: Loki Arthur China > B2 NT > J3 > Rxton9 > Bloom Power > B2 Gold

 

[TensorBackhand]

I would rate the rubbers I played as follow: Loki Arthur China > B2 NT > J3 > Rxton9 > Bloom Power > B2 Gold

Rxton 9 so low! Is that allowed to say on this forum?

 

[longle]

Rxton 9 so low! Is that allowed to say on this forum?

it's my personal experience the only good Loki rubber to me is the LAC haha

 

[TensorBackhand]

it's my personal experience the only good Loki rubber to me is the LAC haha

Does Rxton 9 respond to booster?

 

[longle]

Does Rxton 9 respond to booster?

I played both LAC and Rxton9 without booster, and LAC felt more livelier. I gave away the Rxton9 without boosting after that sorry

 

[TensorBackhand]

I came back to Jupiter 3 first time in a long time, I notice that it has a rather low throw angle. I didnt really notice this as much in previous tests. Do others think that too?

 

[Angerer]

I came back to Jupiter 3 first time in a long time, I notice that it has a rather low throw angle. I didnt really notice this as much in previous tests. Do others think that too?

For 39 and 40 versions, yes. The trajectory isn't as low as, lets say B2 Gold, but below average for sure.
The 38 version is an anomaly across the whole series, it is much bouncier and has a higher trajectory than the rest of the J3 series.

It also depends on which booster you're using. For me, Falco Long raises the trajectory a bit, while Haifu only increases the speed and lowers the trajectory a little.

 

[h3llary]

Finally tried Jupiter 39 asia, black on Yinhe Pro 01. I have never played with a better rubber. This one would be my go to from now on.

I don't know what it is, perhaps it's the synergy of the yinhe blade and the rubber but I have never felt more control in my entire hobby player career (4 years so far). The shots went exactly where I wanted them to land, I could do slow spinny or fast and flat, doesn't matter, the rubber felt absolutely controllabe. On the backhand I had yinhe moon blue hard and it was not nearly as good. Higher throw, softer, significantly less spin. I got yinhe moon blue just because I had played couple days ago against a guy with Yinhe Moon Pro red and his slow spinny loops were out of this world, they had far more spin than any dignics/tenergy that I had seen. But that guy was a leftie and a penholder so I assume he would have more spin in his loops by default.

 

[turbozed]

Finally tried Jupiter 39 asia, black on Yinhe Pro 01. I have never played with a better rubber. This one would be my go to from now on.

I don't know what it is, perhaps it's the synergy of the yinhe blade and the rubber but I have never felt more control in my entire hobby player career (4 years so far). The shots went exactly where I wanted them to land, I could do slow spinny or fast and flat, doesn't matter, the rubber felt absolutely controllabe. On the backhand I had yinhe moon blue hard and it was not nearly as good. Higher throw, softer, significantly less spin. I got yinhe moon blue just because I had played couple days ago against a guy with Yinhe Moon Pro red and his slow spinny loops were out of this world, they had far more spin than any dignics/tenergy that I had seen. But that guy was a leftie and a penholder so I assume he would have more spin in his loops by default.

Moon Pro doesn't share much in common with Moon 12 Blue besides the 'Moon' branding. Moon Pro is a tacky rubber usually played on the FH. Not many people use it anymore, but it was well regarded years ago.

Maybe you can try the 37d Jupiter 3 for your BH.

 

[NetProphet]

Finally tried Jupiter 39 asia, black on Yinhe Pro 01. I have never played with a better rubber. This one would be my go to from now on.

I don't know what it is, perhaps it's the synergy of the yinhe blade and the rubber but I have never felt more control in my entire hobby player career (4 years so far). The shots went exactly where I wanted them to land, I could do slow spinny or fast and flat, doesn't matter, the rubber felt absolutely controllabe. On the backhand I had yinhe moon blue hard and it was not nearly as good. Higher throw, softer, significantly less spin. I got yinhe moon blue just because I had played couple days ago against a guy with Yinhe Moon Pro red and his slow spinny loops were out of this world, they had far more spin than any dignics/tenergy that I had seen. But that guy was a leftie and a penholder so I assume he would have more spin in his loops by default.

Are you sure it was the rubber that was producing the spin?
I have Tenergy 19 on my BH and there are several players at my club who can produce twice as much as spin with it as I can, it's all about their technique

 

[schrodingerskoalabear]

Finally tried Jupiter 39 asia, black on Yinhe Pro 01. I have never played with a better rubber. This one would be my go to from now on.

I don't know what it is, perhaps it's the synergy of the yinhe blade and the rubber but I have never felt more control in my entire hobby player career (4 years so far). The shots went exactly where I wanted them to land, I could do slow spinny or fast and flat, doesn't matter, the rubber felt absolutely controllabe. On the backhand I had yinhe moon blue hard and it was not nearly as good. Higher throw, softer, significantly less spin. I got yinhe moon blue just because I had played couple days ago against a guy with Yinhe Moon Pro red and his slow spinny loops were out of this world, they had far more spin than any dignics/tenergy that I had seen. But that guy was a leftie and a penholder so I assume he would have more spin in his loops by default.

This is almost the same setup I have; J3 asia on FH on Yinhe Pro 01 with Palio AK47 Blue on the BH. I have been playing with it for a month and a half now and it has overtaken my inner F3 Pro with BD FH + Moon 12 Medium BH; so I have a very similar experience to you.

Very controllable , and good speed on the FH and my BH has really improved with the setup. My only critique might be that I feel a little rushed on FH loop against backspin. This obviously could be technique related but another at-least partly responsible variable might be comparatively dwell time. This was brought into relief when I tried my F3 Pro a week ago. My FH against backspin felt better and smoother though my BH really suffered.

If anything, this experience has confused me. I do think my gameplay (as a dominant FH player) is more suited to the inner blade but at least for the next couple of months, I am going to keep going with the Yinhe 01 + J3 and work on technique.

 

[h3llary]

Are you sure it was the rubber that was producing the spin?
I have Tenergy 19 on my BH and there are several players at my club who can produce twice as much as spin with it as I can, it's all about their technique

Tenergy 19 is a capable rubber, no doubt about that. My point exactly was that more expensive doesn't mean a better rubber at all.

 

[h3llary]

Moon Pro doesn't share much in common with Moon 12 Blue besides the 'Moon' branding. Moon Pro is a tacky rubber usually played on the FH. Not many people use it anymore, but it was well regarded years ago.

Maybe you can try the 37d Jupiter 3 for your BH.

My moon blue is also a tacky rubber, even though it's hard version it's still soft and higher throwing compared to J3 39.

 

[h3llary]

This is almost the same setup I have; J3 asia on FH on Yinhe Pro 01 with Palio AK47 Blue on the BH. I have been playing with it for a month and a half now and it has overtaken my inner F3 Pro with BD FH + Moon 12 Medium BH; so I have a very similar experience to you.

Very controllable , and good speed on the FH and my BH has really improved with the setup. My only critique might be that I feel a little rushed on FH loop against backspin. This obviously could be technique related but another at-least partly responsible variable might be comparatively dwell time. This was brought into relief when I tried my F3 Pro a week ago. My FH against backspin felt better and smoother though my BH really suffered.

If anything, this experience has confused me. I do think my gameplay (as a dominant FH player) is more suited to the inner blade but at least for the next couple of months, I am going to keep going with the Yinhe 01 + J3 and work on technique.

A lot of people complained about ball slippage with ak 47 series. Did you experience anything like this with the blue version? I've also heard that in order to get any spin out ak47 you really need to engage the sponge all the time, otherwise the ball just doesn't go anywhere or slips. Would you say your rubber is grippy?

 

[TensorBackhand]

A lot of people complained about ball slippage with ak 47 series. Did you experience anything like this with the blue version? I've also heard that in order to get any spin out ak47 you really need to engage the sponge all the time, otherwise the ball just doesn't go anywhere or slips. Would you say your rubber is grippy?

It is reasonably grippy, just not very grippy. It is very decently spinny

 

[jaghaimo]

A lot of people complained about ball slippage with ak 47 series. Did you experience anything like this with the blue version? I've also heard that in order to get any spin out ak47 you really need to engage the sponge all the time, otherwise the ball just doesn't go anywhere or slips. Would you say your rubber is grippy?

I did with Red and Yellow. The grip was weak, I even had to change the bat angle when pushing (push backspin with the angle you'd normally use for pure sidespin). My partner thought I'm playing anti-spin.

For reference, this was at a TT camp where professional league players were present. They tried my bat (Clipper and AK47) as I couldn't do what they were telling me to do (angle the push on side backspin) and said to change the rubbers ASAP (they were not even week old). Then gave me their bat to use (Freitas and MX-P) and despite it being much faster I could push the serve back the way they wanted no problem.

 

[turbozed]

My moon blue is also a tacky rubber, even though it's hard version it's still soft and higher throwing compared to J3 39.

Huh that's really weird. Both my Moon 12 Blues (medium soft and medium hard versions) have no tack at all. Maybe they made the harder versions tacky? First I've ever heard of that.

 

[h3llary]

Huh that's really weird. Both my Moon 12 Blues (medium soft and medium hard versions) have no tack at all. Maybe they made the harder versions tacky? First I've ever heard of that.

It's not super tacky like hurricane or jupiter which can hold the ball for 5-10 seconds easily, it only holds the ball for 1-2 seconds and then it drops

 

[h3llary]

I did with Red and Yellow. The grip was weak, I even had to change the bat angle when pushing (push backspin with the angle you'd normally use for pure sidespin). My partner thought I'm playing anti-spin.

For reference, this was at a TT camp where professional league players were present. They tried my bat (Clipper and AK47) as I couldn't do what they were telling me to do (angle the push on side backspin) and said to change the rubbers ASAP (they were not even week old). Then gave me their bat to use (Freitas and MX-P) and despite it being much faster I could push the serve back the way they wanted no problem.

honestly mxp is one of a kind when it comes to pushes, they go long with a super low trajector, freitas alc increases that effect as it has almost no arc compared to viscaria or even tb alc.

 

[jaghaimo]

Huh that's really weird. Both my Moon 12 Blues (medium soft and medium hard versions) have no tack at all. Maybe they made the harder versions tacky? First I've ever heard of that.

I can confirm. Moon 12 Blue was not tacky (also had medium-soft and medium-hard). I can't remember now, but it might have been able to grab the ball, e.g. lifting it for a split second (few mm off the table) and as such I would not call it tacky yet.