❓What Is Your Setup, and WHY?

[NetProphet]

Dignics 80 is the only rubber in the world with 0 weaknesses...not 1 negative aspect about this rubber

If you list other high-end rubbers, there's always at least 1 weakness. For example:

Dignics 09c: lacks speed without using full force; throw angle is too high/extreme
Dignics 05: unforgiving; way too spin-sensitive; has a very short trajectory, not good for playing away from the table
Dignics 64: lacks high-end spin
Tenergy 05: way too spin-sensitive; too bouncy in short game
Tenergy 64: lacks high-end spin


There is nothing negative you can possibly say about Dignics 80!

Some of your points are relevant to some people of course but what you always fail to recognise in your absolute statements is that 'your' experience of certain rubbers on your blade is NOT gonna be the same as other people's experience of the same rubber on a different blade. So these points you make are relevant mostly just for you!
There are 100 people in here who could poke holes and make counter arguments to everything you've written there.
I've tried to engage with you before about differing viewpoints but you don't even respond 😂
Again, these are just your opinions dude, not absolutes for exactly how these rubbers are to you and everyone else

 

[GOAT 🐐]

Dignics 80 is the only rubber in the world with 0 weaknesses...not 1 negative aspect about this rubber

If you list other high-end rubbers, there's always at least 1 weakness. For example:

Dignics 09c: lacks speed without using full force; throw angle is too high/extreme
Dignics 05: unforgiving; way too spin-sensitive; has a very short trajectory, not good for playing away from the table
Dignics 64: lacks high-end spin
Tenergy 05: way too spin-sensitive; too bouncy in short game
Tenergy 64: lacks high-end spin


There is nothing negative you can possibly say about Dignics 80!

Let me edit your comments:
D80: too fast, medium arc
D09c: arc too high, still slightly soft and fast
D64: too fast
T05: too fast
T64: too fast and soft
D05: no margin for error
H3: arc too low and flat.Hard to play explosive underpin loops unless properly tuned and boosted

 

[Deep74]

Dignics 80 is the only rubber in the world with 0 weaknesses...not 1 negative aspect about this rubber

If you list other high-end rubbers, there's always at least 1 weakness. For example:

Dignics 09c: lacks speed without using full force; throw angle is too high/extreme
Dignics 05: unforgiving; way too spin-sensitive; has a very short trajectory, not good for playing away from the table
Dignics 64: lacks high-end spin
Tenergy 05: way too spin-sensitive; too bouncy in short game
Tenergy 64: lacks high-end spin


There is nothing negative you can possibly say about Dignics 80!

Saying D80 is best bh rubber in world is just a matter of opinion for you as it may suit u and mayb your not able to get the best out of other rubbers or mayb d80 suits your game.

Club where I train at has high end players including Sam walker (england num 4) who trains there 2 days a week. Most these players use D05 on bh and I can assure u it’s does not lack the speed away from the table when u see them using it!! Also best player in world FZD was using D09C so why was he using the d80 “the best rubber in the world”?

one of the Romanians at my club has the best backhand there and he used K3. The level of these players is extremely high in the uk. What’s best for u or works for u doesn’t mean it’s best rubber there for others. These players are able to get the best out of D05 whereas your skills might be limited.

Don’t get me wrong D80 is a very good rubber, I initially used D05 when it came out and found when technique was good I got great results from it but when it wasn’t I didn’t so I tried D80 and found it easier to use and it suited me more. 2 yrs of using D80 and when bh technique was way better I went back to D05 and the spin on it surpasses D80, as does countering. I have now been using D05 for 2 yrs on bh and would never go back to D80.

D80 is merely best rubber for u and u get more out of it than u would D09C or D05. It’s all about personal preference and what suits your own game.

 

[ThePongCommenter]

I can agree to this. As I got better I found I was very limited in my BH with D80. D05 and 09c have much more attacking capabilities as well as spin

D80 is good specifically if you don't want to handle or create much spin yourself so it is good if you like to block or play with a more open racket and have to worry less about angle. But like you said the spin generation is much more limited than D05 and if you are using D80 on the forehand at a certain level you'll have to give up some attacking and finishing power.

 

[ThePongCommenter]

Let me edit your comments:
D80: too fast, medium arc
D09c: arc too high, still slightly soft and fast
D64: too fast
T05: too fast
T64: too fast and soft
D05: no margin for error
H3: arc too low and flat.Hard to play explosive underpin loops unless properly tuned and boosted

I am surprised an estimated 2300 attacker such as yourself finds D09c too fast, as every 2300+ player I know finds the relatively slow speed to be the one and only drawback of 09c but to each their own.

 

[pedro.dantas]

My current setup is TMXi with rakza Z (FH) and vega korea (BH), basically i'm using it cause provides good feeling and dwell, and at the same time it helps to correct my movement, since if i try to do it upwards it will just go off the table.

 

[rbtitco]

Why do you think that no top players use it if there is no weakness?

What do top players have to do with people on this forum? Top players don't hang out on the internet talking about tt. A lot of them secretly hate tt cuz they've been tiger mommed into playing since they were 6

 

[NetProphet]

What do top players have to do with people on this forum? Top players don't hang out on the internet talking about tt. A lot of them secretly hate tt cuz they've been tiger mommed into playing since they were 6

Yeah but they all hate D80 too 😛

 

[GOAT 🐐]

I am surprised an estimated 2300 attacker such as yourself finds D09c too fast, as every 2300+ player I know finds the relatively slow speed to be the one and only drawback of 09c but to each their own.

I have a large swing which is why I and my fellow Chinese players and coaches play with H3 forehand and 09c backhand. 09c has two high of a arc and balls often fly out on full strokes.

 

[joshmak10]

I have a large swing which is why I and my fellow Chinese players and coaches play with H3 forehand and 09c backhand. 09c has two high of an arc and balls often fly out on full strokes.

Exactly why I use H3 on FH and 09c backhand. Basically anyone who plays chinese style uses this two rubber

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

Darker Speed 90 shakehand. I bought this a during the covid pandemic. I placed an order nine months earlier and was placed on the waiting list for nine months! Yes, nine freaking months!

As for rubber; only Tenergy as One Ply Hinoki with Tenergy is like Bourbon & Coke, Gin & Tonic , you get the idea.

 

[rbtitco]

I play virtually identical to fan zhendong ( some observers believe I have a bit more power, but that neither here nor there.) as such, only the finest of equipment will do, which is a golden viscaria (cnt team edition obviously) special order international h3 blue sponge in an 47 degree hardness (thanks prott) which I've boosted with 16 layers of haifu rainbow ( never heard of it? - sorry.) On the bh I've sourced a Japanese natl team d-09c ( weak- i know but it's all I could get on short notice) My glue is custom made (I can't talk about my glue, there have been some threats from big horse. sorry)
Oh yea, before I build the racket I soak it in water for approximately 22 hours. If holy water is unavailable for soaking, I can use the tears of unwed mothers in a pinch virgin blood ( whatevers easier to find on the road at tourneys)
Tt equipment is serious business, I believe with this setup I may have just enough juice to crack your USATT level 1500 God willing 🙏

 

[greenbeanmachine]

Xu Xin was using Intensity for almost a decade until the dynasty carbon came out.

He used rosewood nct V for a few years and then made the intensity with the yeo for a basis.

Xu Xin was using Ma Lin EO for a while and this looked bad for Stiga, which is why they made the Intensity. Maybe it's not an exact clone but it's intended to be pretty damn close.

Compared to the yeo, the intensity is much lighter, has more flex, is thinner and has the nct technology. It's faster with more dwell time and better feel.

It's not a yeo clone, I have both and they play nothing alike. The yeo is a brick compared to the intensity. Do your research, you're stuck in 2013.

Funny you say that Intensity is lighter. I also have both blades, and my Intensity is both heavier and thicker than my Ma Lin EO -- albeit very slightly (see attached photos). I find the Ma Lin EO to be faster and more flexible -- but tbf I have spent many more hours playing with Ma Lin EO than I have with Intensity. And I have the new NCT which is not as thick as the old NCT.

I suspect your different experience may be due to peculiarities in the blades. I could probably find a thinner lighter YEO or a heavier thicker Intensity if I had to.

 

[olive-nguyen]

Set 1, main blade,
Yinhe 988 Jpen
Double Fish Volant-1 black 40 degrees forehand, no rubber on backhand


Set 2, soon to be main blade once I retire the yinhe,
Nittaku Miyabi Round Jpen, (9mm) Kiso Hinoki
Nittaku Fastarc G-1 black, 2.0mm sponge, Yasaka Rakza 7 red, 1.8mm sponge rpb rubber.

 

[ThePongCommenter]

What do top players have to do with people on this forum? Top players don't hang out on the internet talking about tt. A lot of them secretly hate tt cuz they've been tiger mommed into playing since they were 6

You don't think that a perfect and flawless piece of equipment would be a popular choice with the people whose career depends on their performance?

 

[blahness]

I used to play Viscaria + both sides D05, but now I play Viscaria + D05 FH and Butterfly super anti BH. I am pretty aggressive with the anti and am having quite a bit of fun with it! Cant wait for my next play session where I can just incorporate the UFO BH topspin lol

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

Darker Speed 90:

the nine months I was put on the waiting list. Which other TT blade that makes you wait so long for it?

 

[olive-nguyen]

Darker Speed 90 shakehand. I bought this a during the covid pandemic. I placed an order nine months earlier and was placed on the waiting list for nine months! Yes, nine freaking months!

As for rubber; only Tenergy as One Ply Hinoki with Tenergy is like Bourbon & Coke, Gin & Tonic , you get the idea.

Wonder if fastarc g-1 works then

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

Wonder if fastarc g-1 works then

Should work but nonetheless, DS90 with Tenergy is like Gin & Tonic, Rum & Raisin, Mac & Cheese, Bourbon and Cigar... you get my drift.

 

[banbekas]

The paradox of table tennis equipments. No top players are using it, but then when they do, it's because they can use whatever. At the same time, amateur can't possibly use the setup like the pros, yet we still buy it.

I'm using Yinhe Max 02 with Volant Phoenix 1 and 2. Reason is it's good enough. Enough spin, enough speed, cheap, and stable.