WTT Champions Chongqing 2025 - 11-16 Mar 2025

[NextLevel]

They play like Women but just a bit further from the table and with much more power.... amazing....

 

[Metaxa]

You really can't say that, Metaxa thinks it's the head and 20 cm advantage bro. Other things don't count.

That last sentence of yours is incorrect, I did not say that. His irregular services give him at least 30% advantage in what follows with his ball changes. And the fact that he is left-handed of course. As a result, he will always remain a difficult player to play. The fact that he is better than Tomo is also normal. Tomo will remain a perennial top 3-5 player without ever having been at 1.

 

[NextLevel]

Has someone finally matched Ryu for footwork? I was thinking this watching him play Harimoto but it is a real question.

 

[NextLevel]

You have to hope he gets tired, he has taken his fitness to an unreal level.

 

[Metaxa]

Phenomenal match level from WCQ!

 

[dingyibvs]

Damn, WCQ beat LSD like he's Harimoto.

 

[pongfugrasshopper]

They play like Women but just a bit further from the table and with much more power.... amazing....

The Tao of Table Tennis. Women playing like men. Men playing like women.

 

[FIXPOINT]

WTT Champions Chongqing 2025 WS Final

Japanese version​

 

[FIXPOINT]

WTT Champions Chongqing 2025 MS Final

Japanese version​

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

That last sentence of yours is incorrect, I did not say that. His irregular services give him at least 30% advantage in what follows with his ball changes. And the fact that he is left-handed of course. As a result, he will always remain a difficult player to play. The fact that he is better than Tomo is also normal. Tomo will remain a perennial top 3-5 player without ever having been at 1.

WCQ's big head hiding the ball "name calling" actually started in china by fans of other players.
there is no doubt wcq gets advantages from his hidden serves.

people have been saying that he can be no 1, he could become a grand slam, but his hidden serves will always be there with his name.

The other greats before him, didn't need to rely on tricks to get some advantages.
Many times when WCQ is in trouble, he would start using his hidden serves.

There is no doubt during open play, he is a very strong player. So to me... why don't he just win during open play and why needing to get those extra advantages by using tricks.

 

[zeio]

Has someone finally matched Ryu for footwork? I was thinking this watching him play Harimoto but it is a real question.

That's up for debate.

OTOH, WCQ at 26 while being 24 did match RSM's worse Olympic result at 18 and 26...

 

[Zezima]

there is one thing to have that kind of footwork and anticipation + perfectly reading the balls arc and everything and another to do it the entire full fkin set against the nr 2. I get some ML vibes if he keeps the longevity

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Has someone finally matched Ryu for footwork? I was thinking this watching him play Harimoto but it is a real question.

I think Ryu's footwork will be very difficult to beat.

its one thing when playing opponents and another thing playing your own teammates that you know very well.
and for Ryu, he really only had 1 side of the racket to play, so his whole strategy was to do forehand to everything possible and that left him to develop such crazy footwork - but then longevity doesn't exist, due to the physical drain on the body.

Also, can't discount the faster ball era Ryu was in and not to mention his footwork was against a very mighty opponent trio of China

 

[Zezima]

Also what I noted compared to us players whenever they(P) go all out on the balls their recovery is completely different then what I see even from 2000-2500 players (A).
A does a topspin stroke and is mainly off balance and late to the next ball let alone predict the next balls placement usually a good block puts him back at advantage.
But P does the stroke in a way that they are almost never off balance exactly knows where they gonna get the next ball to continue. I think they also take the ball when its rising/at the top always in front of them. While A players tend to take the balls way later timing and even then it looks like they are overwhelmed with the pace they get the balls back at them. Just crazy.
A.. amateurs P.. Pros especially WCQ and LS like

 

[NextLevel]

there is one thing to have that kind of footwork and anticipation + perfectly reading the balls arc and everything and another to do it the entire full fkin set against the nr 2. I get some ML vibes if he keeps the longevity

ML had more versatility than this, this is just king long table tennis and I do not believe it Is sustainable for for more than brief critical periods. I think the contenders (Shidong, Harimoto, LYJ) can take advantage of his lesser days. ML.could still get by with 40% days.

 

[Robin0910]

Wow, even LSD won points on only 37% of his serves. Although, the fair umpire also influenced that, we need more like her.
Wang Chuqin was playing on crack!!

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

there is one thing to have that kind of footwork and anticipation + perfectly reading the balls arc and everything and another to do it the entire full fkin set against the nr 2. I get some ML vibes if he keeps the longevity

ML had to wait years for the retirement of his predecessors.
this era is different, with the predecessors stepping down for other reasons.
If FZD was still around, I am sure the journey will have more obstacles, and WCQ may need to wait, just like Ma Long for the cycle after LA.

Its all WCQ/LSD era to take and LSD is still very young, so WCQ should be the next grand slam. The only person who can stop him, is himself.

 

[Shine]

That last sentence of yours is incorrect, I did not say that. His irregular services give him at least 30% advantage in what follows with his ball changes. And the fact that he is left-handed of course. As a result, he will always remain a difficult player to play. The fact that he is better than Tomo is also normal. Tomo will remain a perennial top 3-5 player without ever having been at 1.

30% advantage is a huge stretch. Harimoto never struggled with the serves both on the Chiquita and when pushing short/long, but got clobbered.

 

[Shine]

Wow, even LSD won points on only 37% of his serves. Although, the fair umpire also influenced that, we need more like her.
Wang Chuqin was playing on crack!!

This is the point that the naysayers ignore
Despite WCQ supposed advantage he wins only 6/10 of his serves, there's been matches where Truls and Harimoto didn't score more than 3/10 on their own serves Vs WCQ. This lends more credence to the fact that he's actually a better receiver and 1st 3-5 balls specialist than arguably everyone out there on their best days.

 

[Shine]

Has someone finally matched Ryu for footwork? I was thinking this watching him play Harimoto but it is a real question.

Ryu footwork overrated because he beat top three Chinese.
Most of the top guys on the Chinese national team have had amazing footwork for days.