H3 42 degree blue

[longle]

So basically the ”hype”. Ur loosing out on a lot of performance because you can’t hit through the blue sponge. I can assure you that anyone under 2300 can’t hit through blue sponge and use it properly. The arc protection is close to none

I agree that the Blue requires a certain level of skill to make use of it properly. But doesn't the same apply to Dignics and other high end rubbers ? because we amateurs want to have a taste of the pros' equipments, knowing that we won't utilize its full power

 

[GOAT 🐐]

I agree that the Blue requires a certain level of skill to make use of it properly. But doesn't the same apply to Dignics and other high end rubbers ? because we amateurs want to have a taste of the pros' equipments, knowing that we won't utilize its full power

Nope. 09c is much easier to achieve its top. It’s much easier to hit through but has a lower ceiling.

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

Hello,
My first post here. I've been using H3 42 blue on W968 and I really love it. The spin is enormous, the speed is much better than 40 and about 25% faster than 41. What I really like about it is after 2 layers of booster, it still stays elastic and the sound is always cracking, does not get soft after 2 months (the 41 is getting way softer).

After using 42 for about 3 months, I switched back to 41 and no surprise, 41 feels a bit soft to my (new) taste in H3. 41 is a bit easier to spin but 42 is just a different animal, especially when stepping away from the table, the ball becomes a rocket when doing FH loop. It feels like I don't really need to care about opponent's spin. I can just counter without thinking much.

I have tried the 42 on another 968 Golden, it didn't have the effect of the original 968 (which is a bit softer than the Golden). The Golden feels like an outer blade, better Bh but the flex isn't that great.

If you're a H3 user and want to up your game, H3 42 is worth a try!

(I bought mine on Aliexpress and ProTT)

Wanna find out how hard is 42 degree H3 in ESN scale? Trying to get a feel of things here.

NB: This thread makes me feel like an Non-American vacationing in America trying to convert metric into imperial.

 

[Conehead]

Wanna find out how hard is 42 degree H3 in ESN scale? Trying to get a feel of things here.

41° H3N translates into 55° ESN. So I assume 42° would be approximately 58°/59°.

 

[latej]

Wanna find out how hard is 42 degree H3 in ESN scale? Trying to get a feel of things here.

NB: This thread makes me feel like an Non-American vacationing in America trying to convert metric into imperial.

As I/we know you, it's 100% clear you'll jump right into Nittaku H3 PTB... Nothing else will satisfy you ;-)

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

As I/we know you, it's 100% clear you'll jump right into Nittaku H3 PTB... Nothing else will satisfy you ;-)

Come on! It was just one time, just one time, darn it! It was me during the age of ignorance, t'was a dark time, age of darkness. It does not define me, not anymore. I have entered into the age of enlightenment, now I am a renaissance man!

P/s: Those Tenergy 05 hard is on sale, looks so tempting.

 

[Angerer]

Goodness gracious, people are discussing the 42 and 43 H3... You guys must be full-time professionals to utilize that power. I mean, H3 isn't known for its stellar blocks, and you gotta work for every shot with full force and be the aggressor.

I moved from H3N 39 Nat BS to H3N 38 Prov OS because it gave so much arc, spin, and safety with way less effort (the power decreased of course). And even then, I boosted the hell out of H3N 38 OS to overwhelm opponents via consistency and attacking pretty much anything. It turned out to be easier to look up and land shots into uncomfortable places than to overpower via the sheer power of H3N 39 BS.
It turned out even the softest H3N version on the market was venomous enough to make the opponents' lives uncomfortable.

Are 42-43 that necessary? As most of the decent players use Dignics on both wings, I think any H3N hardness would be venomous enough to cause trouble.

 

[latej]

Goodness gracious, people are discussing the 42 and 43 H3... You guys must be full-time professionals to utilize that power. I mean, H3 isn't known for its stellar blocks, and you gotta work for every shot with full force and be the aggressor.

That's a misunderstanding. The higher the level, the higher the sensitivity to changes/variations, and vice-versa. The lower the level, the less it matters with what you play... However, it's a good idea to recommend something sensible not to hamper progress... And that's what actually happens here in TTD often... Anyway, trying H42 - why not, and when you recognize it's too hard - it's a progress, well done, only 50 bucks short... ;-) Cheers... See you near Bratislava on TT-forum meeting ;-)

 

[GOAT 🐐]

Just as a side note, the original non-neo hurricane 3 is meant to be played with organic blues or speed glues. The neo is meant to be played with our water-based glues. Blue 39 is about orange 41 in terms on feel when pushing sponge

 

[Angerer]

That's a misunderstanding. The higher the level, the higher the sensitivity to changes/variations, and vice-versa. The lower the level, the less it matters with what you play... However, it's a good idea to recommend something sensible not to hamper progress... And that's what actually happens here in TTD often... Anyway, trying H42 - why not, and when you recognize it's too hard - it's a progress, well done, only 50 bucks short... ;-) Cheers... See you near Bratislava on TT-forum meeting ;-)

Sadly, I can't commit to trips thanks to having a newborn

Speaking of hardness, I still vividly remember the moment I tried a boosted H41 on my clubmate's W968. Although I enjoyed the sensation of sending rockets with a satisfying clicky sound, my body was asking for a rest after 1.5 sets I simultaneously respect and don't understand people who whack the ball using H42+.

 

[latej]

Sadly, I can't commit to trips thanks to having a newborn

Congrats.

Speaking of hardness, I still vividly remember the moment I tried a boosted H41 on my clubmate's W968. Although I enjoyed the sensation of sending rockets with a satisfying clicky sound, my body was asking for a rest after 1.5 sets I simultaneously respect and don't understand people who whack the ball using H42+.

Boosted H41 is, or was, actually totally fine for me. Rxton 9 H40,5 also, I wouldn't go for the H39 for the FH. H3 H40 is OK too... The NTH3PTH even though people say it is H43, actually it was really no problem to play, but the problem is it's heavy. The hardness was not really such issue... The thing is, the hardness of top-sheet matters so much too, e.g. D09C sponge hardness is abs. fine, but the top-sheet is harder than I like and I feel I can't get what I want, but because of the top-sheet, not the sponge. It is for better players... The top-sheet on R9 feels very different than D09C, and on H3 - those that I had - was good too. The problem is we can't specify the top-sheet hardness nowadays...

 

[mamedium]

Goodness gracious, people are discussing the 42 and 43 H3... You guys must be full-time professionals to utilize that power. I mean, H3 isn't known for its stellar blocks, and you gotta work for every shot with full force and be the aggressor.

I moved from H3N 39 Nat BS to H3N 38 Prov OS because it gave so much arc, spin, and safety with way less effort (the power decreased of course). And even then, I boosted the hell out of H3N 38 OS to overwhelm opponents via consistency and attacking pretty much anything. It turned out to be easier to look up and land shots into uncomfortable places than to overpower via the sheer power of H3N 39 BS.
It turned out even the softest H3N version on the market was venomous enough to make the opponents' lives uncomfortable.

Are 42-43 that necessary? As most of the decent players use Dignics on both wings, I think any H3N hardness would be venomous enough to cause trouble.

fulltime professionals required to use H3 42? there is no such thing. You may find it impossible to use but I mean… have you ever tried? The fact that you like 38 degree so much meaning Dignics is probably a better choice for you anyways

Speaking of Dignics… the Dignics of the pros are much much harder than what we can grab but I guess if we can dress and use the “same” equipment as them we’d be happy enough right?

 

[Angerer]

The fact that you like 38 degree so much meaning Dignics is probably a better choice for you anyways

I switched to 45-48 (ESN) rubbers after 4.5 years of playing Jupiter/Hurricane and the results went up dramatically.
In fact, Dignics (05 and 09c) are too hard for me as well. That's probably why I feel going for harder rubbers doesn't always benefit non-professionals.