I'm looking for an alternative rubber that lasts longer than the Tibhar Hybrid K3.

[joshmak10]

D09c lasts quite a while for me. Maybe 6-8 months. But D05 lasts forever. Maybe Zyre 03 will also last forever

 

[Der_Echte]

I had it. Heavy, slow, feels dead. 729 super fx or Mercury hard similar and much cheaper

I will not disparage your assessment of K1... but I still stand by the truth of my message and Sergey's top performance using this rubber.

 

[piligrim]

I will not disparage your assessment of K1... but I still stand by the truth of my message and Sergey's top performance using this rubber.

Who is Sergey you always mention?

 

[ThePongCommenter]

Except that nuzn is nothing like K3/A1/C55, etc. It is not even barely tacky.

As to Dignics 09C, it's topsheet durability is basically the same as K3/A1/C55.

09c's topsheet durability far exceeds K3's, this has been the experience and the clear conclusion of pretty much everyone both in person and online

 

[Racket42]

I use K3 on FH and I changed it last time after ~70 hours due to some wear marks appearing but I think I should probably have waited until at least 100 hours because the new one I stuck on doesn't play any better. This one will be going the distance. Anything that can go 100+ hours is reasonable IMO

 

[JJ Ng]

Are we talking about K1 Hybrid European version or is there a K1 Hybrid?

I tried K1 Hybrid European version and I did not like it at all. No feeling of catapult. Not tacky topsheet. I don't know what it is useful for.

K2 on the other hand I liked it very much. I used it for a while on my forehand. Tacky. Hard sponge. Reacts well to booster. I first bought it on TT11. Then I bought another two sheets from Aliexpress because K2 is now only available in China. Would I pick K2 over H3 blue sponge? No. But it is at least playable on my forehand.

D09c is much much tackier and its tackiness lasts much much longer than ESN "hybrid" stuff it tries to sell to the general public (except Rakza Z which is actually quite tacky).

 

[vvk1]

09c's topsheet durability far exceeds K3's, this has been the experience and the clear conclusion of pretty much everyone both in person and online

Not in my experience.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/xiom-c55-impressions-and-comparison-with-h3n.34868/post-525087

Here is one that "has been used for one session":

Dignics 09C Black 2.1mm | eBay UK

Dignics 09C Black 2.1mm

www.ebay.co.uk

 

[Angerer]

I use K3 on FH and I changed it last time after ~70 hours due to some wear marks appearing but I think I should probably have waited until at least 100 hours because the new one I stuck on doesn't play any better. This one will be going the distance. Anything that can go 100+ hours is reasonable IMO

How would you compare MK Hybrid and K3 durability?

For those saying D09c is a fine replacement, I would say D09c is too different from K3. D09c far exceeds K3 in terms of durability, maybe it's also tackier. But playing characteristics are different: K3 is much livelier, faster, easier to attack, has better block/flat hitting, and is noticeably easier to achieve spin. D09c is a harder, duller rubber that demands stronger physicality but has better short game and has higher maximum spin/speed potential.

I am also desperate to find a long-lasting replacement for K3. The closest I got to is MK Pro (51 degree), but it's a tad softer and slower, although the durability seems excellent so far.
I would love to try the 50 or 55 NUZN, but the price tag was a bit scary, and there is nobody around using it to try And buying a used ESN hybrid doesn't make sense.

 

[Creek]

You can get nuzn with 30% Off on tt11 sometimes, which is 55€. So quite ok in comparison to d09c

 

[Yurifi]

You can get nuzn with 30% Off on tt11 sometimes, which is 55€. So quite ok in comparison to d09c

I think it was discounted last week ...

now NUZN 45 is discounted.

 

[ThePongCommenter]

Not in my experience.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/xiom-c55-impressions-and-comparison-with-h3n.34868/post-525087

Here is one that "has been used for one session":

Dignics 09C Black 2.1mm | eBay UK

Dignics 09C Black 2.1mm

www.ebay.co.uk

No chance that has been used for only one session

 

[Sedis]

Not in my experience.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/xiom-c55-impressions-and-comparison-with-h3n.34868/post-525087

Here is one that "has been used for one session":

Dignics 09C Black 2.1mm | eBay UK

Dignics 09C Black 2.1mm

www.ebay.co.uk

It says season, not session

 

[ThePongCommenter]

It says season, not session

That explains it...

 

[vvk1]

It says season, not session

My bad. I swear my eyes saw "session" Time to visit specsavers ...

 

[Jslick89]

Who is Sergey you always mention?

the man. the myth. the czar of spin.

 

[Racket42]

How would you compare MK Hybrid and K3 durability?

For those saying D09c is a fine replacement, I would say D09c is too different from K3. D09c far exceeds K3 in terms of durability, maybe it's also tackier. But playing characteristics are different: K3 is much livelier, faster, easier to attack, has better block/flat hitting, and is noticeably easier to achieve spin. D09c is a harder, duller rubber that demands stronger physicality but has better short game and has higher maximum spin/speed potential.

I am also desperate to find a long-lasting replacement for K3. The closest I got to is MK Pro (51 degree), but it's a tad softer and slower, although the durability seems excellent so far.
I would love to try the 50 or 55 NUZN, but the price tag was a bit scary, and there is nobody around using it to try And buying a used ESN hybrid doesn't make sense.

The MK shows signs of wear before the K3 does. I am BH dominant, so this could be a factor.