WTT Contender Almaty 2025 Sep 2-7

[Tony's Table Tennis]

That's not true at all, attacking players target expedite when they want to keep the points short or know that the chopper is not going to take risk to end the point or their ability to push through the rally is secure when they receive. The chopper will only want expedite if they think they can hold all their receiving points and that is very hard with the attacker taking risks. Most choppers only want expedite vs other choppers.

playing choppers, you want to finish as earlier as possible, not to end up in deciders.
i'm not sure where you learn your table tennis playing against choppers, but when I was bought up, I was taught that.

expediting is forcing a result, no sane attacker will want to go into deciders and rely on fate of expedite.
the longer the game goes, the worse for the attacker too.

That is how I was taught and how we teaching now.
you free to disagree as maybe your coaches teach you differently.
but I have never heard a solution is hang long enough against a chopper, so we can go chances in expedite.

 

[NextLevel]

playing choppers, you want to finish as earlier as possible, not to end up in deciders.
i'm not sure where you learn your table tennis playing against choppers, but when I was bought up, I was taught that.

expediting is forcing a result, no sane attacker will want to go into deciders and rely on fate of expedite.
the longer the game goes, the worse for the attacker too.

That is how I was taught and how we teaching now.
you free to disagree as maybe your coaches teach you differently.
but I have never heard a solution is hang long enough against a chopper, so we can go chances in expedite.

Everyone wants to finish as early as possible. Why doesn't everyone do it?

Against a very consistent defender with weak attack, the attacker can take expedite because the attacker is able to shorten the points better. It is not ideal, but we don't always get what we want.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Everyone wants to finish as early as possible. Why doesn't everyone do it?

Against a very consistent defender with weak attack, the attacker can take expedite because the attacker is able to shorten the points better. It is not ideal, but we don't always get what we want.

so you will advise attacking players to play defensive and to prolong a game to go into expedite?

ok, well, lets see if your strategy will work, since we don't use that mindset, as it is very too high risk and just shows that attacking players can't play his/her game.

PS. In my very limited years of coaching, I have never met anyone or any coach (and I am surround by plenty of national (level/top/provincial) coaches in Taiwan, Japan, Korea and Taiwan) that will wishes for expedite, yet alone forcing or encouraging attacker players to play safe and to get into expedite.

So, until you have players taking on such strategy, to me, it is just some random theory and not really proven or used. Unless you can list players that do it - and I'm assuming you are one that would use such strategy/?

 

[NextLevel]

so you will advise attacking players to play defensive and to prolong a game to go into expedite?

ok, well, lets see if your strategy will work, since we don't use that mindset, as it is very too high risk and just shows that attacking players can't play his/her game.

PS. In my very limited years of coaching, I have never met anyone or any coach (and I am surround by plenty of national (level/top/provincial) coaches in Taiwan, Japan, Korea and Taiwan) that will wishes for expedite, yet alone forcing or encouraging attacker players to play safe and to get into expedite.

So, until you have players taking on such strategy, to me, it is just some random theory and not really proven or used. Unless you can list players that do it - and I'm assuming you are one that would use such strategy/?

I made a very specific statement and I am grateful other people understood what I was saying. In the specific match that @Catenaccio referenced, it was clear that Miwa pushed more and more and didn't mind expedite and arguably invited it because she didn't want to attack unless she felt secure. And that strategy is about the specifics of the match, I would use that strategy against a defender who didn't like attacking because I would be comfortable that I would win points when receiving.

 

[piligrim]

Tanaka

 

[ThePongCommenter]

So, until you have players taking on such strategy, to me, it is just some random theory and not really proven or used. Unless you can list players that do it - and I'm assuming you are one that would use such strategy/?

CIC probably would have had a better chance if she tried it here.

 

[Vlad Celler]

Hashimoto - Akae is curious... Forecast?

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Hashimoto - Akae is curious... Forecast?

so far the past year, the only ones stopping her is Chinese or Japanese
Hashimoto +1

 

[Vlad Celler]

A question for experts in Japanese women's table tennis... Ojio Haruna... Where did she disappear to?

 

[pongfugrasshopper]

A question for experts in Japanese women's table tennis... Ojio Haruna... Where did she disappear to?

She plays for Top Nagoya in T-League. A few of her teammates do play WTT. Miyuu Kihara who just joined this year is a National Team player. Haruna's younger sister, Yuna Ojio, is still young enough so she's on the junior circuit and given a few senior opportunites. Kasumi Kimura had a great result (Champion of 2025 WTT Feeder Panagyurishte). I would love to see Haruna again in WTT. She'll have to convince her team to sponsor her or self fund (which we know is not cheap).

 

[FIXPOINT]

WTT Contender Almaty 2025 WS R32

WTT Contender Almaty 2025 MS R32

 

[Catenaccio]

Mixed Doubles QF | Hashimoto/Aida vs Yokoi/Kobayashi 3-2 (-13,-9,8,6,11)

 

[tzifos]

My beloved Sato and Hashimoto seem very strong in this tournament

 

[Catenaccio]

Bourassaud takes out HYZ 3-2 (-8,10,-5,6,11)

G5 5:8, 8:8, 8:10, 10:10, 11:10 (edge ball), 11:11, 13:11

On a random note, HYZ's serve motion seems to have changed a lot. iirc, it used to be a carbon copy of WCQ's serve motion. Then, HYZ changed it, but it still looked similar. Today, it looked very different.

 

[Catenaccio]

Hashimoto vs Akae 3-0 (9,8,3)

G1: 9:9, 10:9 (Hashimoto did the reverse BH serve and Akae dumps the ball into the net), 11:9 (Hashimoto attacked with her pips)
G2: 5:7, 8:7 (Hashimoto wins 3 points with attacking play), 8:8, 9:8 (great defending), 10:8 (Reverse BH serve winner), 11:8

Frankly, I expected this to go to 5 games, so I am pleased that Hashimoto won convincingly.

 

[tzifos]

Akae in the last game took big risks, a lot of haste! the first 2 games where very very close.

 

[joshmak10]

Bourassaud celebrating a R16 win over HYZ like he won Olympic gold was kinda funny ngl

Jokes aside it was a good win for him so well done Bourassaud

 

[Vlad Celler]

Hashimoto vs Akae 3-0 (9,8,3)

G1: 9:9, 10:9 (Hashimoto did the reverse BH serve and Akae dumps the ball into the net), 11:9 (Hashimoto attacked with her pips)
G2: 5:7, 8:5 (Hashimoto wins 3 points with attacking play), 8:8, 9:8 (great defending), 10:8 (Reverse BH serve winner), 11:8

Frankly, I expected this to go to 5 games, so I am pleased that Hashimoto won convincingly.

and again there are meetings with Chinese women ahead... One or two?

 

[Catenaccio]

and again there are meetings with Chinese women ahead... One or two?

I don't understand your question, but Hashimoto won the only previous match with Xu Yi easily.

EDIT: I guess you mean Hashimoto might face HZJ in the semifinal, so that would mean two meetings with Chinese players in a row.

 

[tzifos]

Hashimoto already played 3 matches today, and there are another 2 to play (WD and XD). The match with Xu Yi is tomorrow, right ?