WTT Champions Macao 2025 - 9-14 Sep 2025

[ThePongCommenter]

so everyone should play the way you decided it has to be?

I simply highlighted an example of good sportsmanship in the exact same situation as Xiang Peng failed to show it. What part of my comment made you think I expect everyone to always be sportsmanlike?

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

JWJ 3 vs XF 0

As it should be from the only non-chinese who has ever 4-0 the GOAT Ma Long.

JWJ: Real-Man(tm) TT style.

QF: JWJ vs Duda. JWJ will be in the SF or else I will start using cheap China blade. Come on JWJ, Gozo does not want to use cheap China blade.

 

[piligrim]

I simply highlighted an example of good sportsmanship in the exact same situation as Xiang Peng failed to show it. What part of my comment made you think I expect everyone to always be sportsmanlike?

Xian Peng failed to show sportsmanship as you understand this. In my and his opinions he didn't do something wrong.

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

QF1: LSD vs Anders.
Come on Anders, make girly boy go home early to his momma.

QF2: Franziska vs Calderano
Who ever wins, Gozo does not care. He likes both.

QF3: JWJ vs Duda
JWJ must win or else poor Gozo has to use cheap Chinese blade.

QF4: WCQ vs LYJ
LYJ, just because he is playing extremely well this tourney. G has a soft spot for the underdog.

 

[Metaxa]

JWJ 3 vs XF 0

As it should be from the only non-chinese who has ever 4-0 the GOAT Ma Long.

JWJ: Real-Man(tm) TT style.

QF: JWJ vs Duda. JWJ will be in the SF or else I will start using cheap China blade. Come on JWJ, Gozo does not want to use cheap China blade.

JWJ, getting better with age!

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

JWJ, getting better with age!

Just like ML innit? ML too start to age like fine wine or Cohiba.

 

[Nakira]

Xian Peng failed to show sportsmanship as you understand this. In my and his opinions he didn't do something wrong.

He didn't do anything wrong. He just made me stop wanting to watch him, as a player I appreciate, and even I would want to support - which is not very often, for anyone in the top level Chinese team-.
It's not a big deal, and for sure he doesn't care.

 

[ThePongCommenter]

Xian Peng failed to show sportsmanship as you understand this. In my and his opinions he didn't do something wrong.

So you truly believe that if Xiang Peng lost a point that he won because the umpire called a let after the point was finished, and if a second point he had scored was negated because the umpire called a let after the point was finished, he would have zero disagreements and proceed without any argument because there is nothing wrong with that situation?

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

JWJ, getting better with age!

or maybe he got rid of that jinx silver hair-do. That was a fashion gaffe! Fashion police should have issued an arrest warrant!

 

[NextLevel]

Xian Peng failed to show sportsmanship as you understand this. In my and his opinions he didn't do something wrong.

Of course you are entitled to your opinion. It doesn't make it a good one. Fairness is a huge part of table tennis, especially since many competitive matches are played without umpires, and even when an umpire is present, there is a lot of stuff they cannot pick up given the speed and tight margins of the game. Defending players who are not aggressively supporting the honors system is dangerous.

 

[piligrim]

So you truly believe that if Xiang Peng lost a point that he won because the umpire called a let after the point was finished, and if a second point he had scored was negated because the umpire called a let after the point was finished, he would have zero disagreements and proceed without any argument because there is nothing wrong with that situation?

I truly believe he doesn't have bad sportsmanship. There is players who ask sorry if opponent failed to serve.
Is it bad sportsmanship if I don't do this?

 

[ThePongCommenter]

I truly believe he doesn't have bad sportsmanship. There is players who ask sorry if opponent failed to serve.
Is it bad sportsmanship if I don't do this?

Don't know what you're saying, but don't think it answers my question.

Do you think Xiang Peng would have reacted with no disagreement or argument if he scored two points that the umpire said doesn't count, after the point was fully finished playing?

 

[piligrim]

Don't know what you're saying, but don't think it answers my question.

Do you think Xiang Peng would have reacted with no disagreement or argument if he scored two points that the umpire said doesn't count, after the point was fully finished playing?

How I know? Ask Xiang Peng

 

[ThePongCommenter]

How I know? Ask Xiang Peng

In my and his opinions he didn't do something wrong.

How you know?

I truly believe he doesn't have bad sportsmanship.

How you know?

 

[piligrim]

How you know?

How you know?

How I know my opinion?

 

[ThePongCommenter]

How I know my opinion?

So you can have an opinion that he was acting with full honesty instead of taking the undeserved gift from the umpire, but you can't have an opinion on what he would have done if the situation was reversed?

 

[tzifos]

50% of the best 8 in this tournament are Chinese women
Only 25% are Chinese men in quarter finals.

Let's see tomorrow after the matches what these numbers are going to be

 

[NextLevel]

I simply highlighted an example of good sportsmanship in the exact same situation as Xiang Peng failed to show it. What part of my comment made you think I expect everyone to always be sportsmanlike?

I think looking at the points, Xiang Peng's behavior is totally within the lines as well and pilgrim's position has merit. It's just not optimal.

 

[Sriver1]

What about wining point when ball hit net or edge? It's also not fair play

When I read sentences like this trying to make them sound like an argument, I realize that the person writing them has no arguments

 

[NextLevel]

When I read sentences like this trying to make them sound like an argument, I realize that the person writing them has no arguments

No, he has a good argument.

The first point, Xiang Peng did not believe that the ball traveled cleanly and I can see why he would claim a net after he missed it and it was up to the umpire and the umpire supported him unfortunately for Franziska. But that is why sometimes you cannot leave these things up to human beings but even machines have limitations. Looking at the replay, I am still never sure whether something didn't interfere with the ball trajectory but the umpire sided with Xiang.

The second point was more of an issue, but that was totally on the Umpire. Could Xiang have given the point back? Sure. But is not giving the point back a huge black mark on Xiang? Everyone is allowed to have their own opinion and would be better if he gave the point back? I think so, because the call was not until after the point. And both players played the point in good faith. But pilgrim's position is quite defensible, it is not like there was out and out fraud throughout the match, and Xiang Peng was good for most of it.