China Smash 2025

[Janard]

Who would have thought a deceptive BH serve will give SYS this much trouble

 

[NextLevel]

that is news to me
they do get tired, in fact, too tired with all these scheduling

Well I asked a top coach whether it was fair for players to play three events in seven days. He said that their training generally prepares them for it so it is not as big a deal.as it looks on paper for many of them and that their bodies are highly specialized for it. So I guess it is up to everyone to interpet his answer as they see best.

 

[zeio]

WMY: This is how the BH serve should be used, Hayata.

WS F
SYS (1) 2-4 WMY (2) (10, -7, -9, -5, 8, -2)

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...ns-macao-2025-9-14-sep-2025.35827/post-540797

WS R16
Hayata 2-3 WMY (7, -3, 9, -6, -7)
U for useless with her 捨身打法/suicidal playing style (can I just say 特攻卓球?), like with Togami.

The BH serve, a hand that was going to be saved for G4 or G5 was forced to be revealed in G3 to take the "false" lead, and if not for all those edges, it wouldn't have gone down to the wire. More scrutiny to come back at home.

 

[TampaBayTableTennis]

can Felix do it?

 

[igorponger]

can Felix do it?

Sure, to leap over his head is the only feat that he got to do. Strong legs and vigour mood is the key.

 

[NextLevel]

I agree, he looks tired, which probably isn't gonna get better after a 7-game match.

LSD hasn't really made any improvements since he jumped onto the scene. He still has relatively weak footwork and FH and is overly reliant on his BH. If he wants to reach greatness he really needs to work on those 2 aspects.

Its not easy to make improvements. He is probably working on stuff but it will take at least 6 months to 2 years, sometimes more, to manifest in matches as something he can hang his hat on. And this is not something that it is going to be easy to measure by watching him play someone like Lebrun whose backhand gives lots of forehand players fits (WCQ is the exception as a lefty). Hugo is likely the bigger target. Lebrun has a couple of underappreciated advantages when playing power players. While there is no one quite like WCQ, between his brother and the French national team, there is a lot of high quality training on that team. Even some of the lower rated players like Borassaud have special quality.

In fact watching the video again, Lin Shidong is clearly playing more forehands on many balls, it just that he misses enough of them that the result is not clearly being improved by them.

 

[backspacer]

the fan club bosses was starring at him with a big warning sign

They would have lynched him.

 

[zeio]

SYS is not used to be the runner-up...

SYS: Where should I stand, in the corner?
Girl in white: Here in the back, all the way...

LIVE! | Infinity ∞ Arena | Day 8 | China Smash 2025 | Finals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfUGeWXS-bE
Hubert Wu 你喜欢谁也不代表你素质高 (Whoever you like, it doesn't mean you are of high quality [more cultured])
SuSu 没素质的球迷谁都有，但因为那些球迷而憎恨一个运动员，也没啥判断力 (Everyone has uncultured fans, but hating an athlete because of those fans shows a lack of judgment)
Rita Chan 皓浪費小石頭天份 (Hao has wasted Little Stone's talent)
Miao barcelona 反正我不喜欢的球员我就不加油 (Anyway, I won’t cheer for players I don’t like)
Sha Zhudao 林詩棟沒有天分的 (LSD has no talent)
vvvv tzm驾到，通通给我闪开 (Get out of my way as the Prince' Moms are here)
いさき でも今回のチューチン疲れてそうな感じ以外はバケモノ (But apart from the tired look of Chuchin this time, he's a bakemono)

 

[Walalang]

Lebrun vs Wang looking pretty one sided rn

 

[baotran]

Felix has no solution to Wang's serves, and his serves are also easy for Wang. I guess there will be no surprise today.

 

[NextLevel]

Felix needs to give WCQ balls to kill and play defense, he keeps getting surprised by the balls as if he cant believe WCQ can make the shots he is making.

 

[zeio]

KK laxative never fails.

Prince' Moms: Good job, KK!
WH: Keikaku doori!

MS F
WCQ (1) 4-0 F. Lebrun (7) (7, 2, 5, 7)
G3 20 TO for Lebrun, 21, 31, 32, 62, 63, 103, 105, 115
G4 20, 22, 44, 45, 55, 56, 66, 67 WCQ lobbed down yet again, 117

 

[TampaBayTableTennis]

congrats wang manyu and wang chuqin!

 

[NextLevel]

Wang Chuqin has the XX syndrome.

I see a fellow CNT player: nothing to play for here.
I see a foreigner: I shall hunt him to the ends of the earth until he is crushed by my serves and powerloops.

 

[Snek]

WCQ has entered the goat debate (again)

 

[Walalang]

No hate to Felix Lebrun, he fought well but the semi-finals against xiang peng (or even lin shidong vs felix) looked a lot more like a finals game compared to the actual finals. Felix simply did not have an answer against Wang Chuqin

 

[NextLevel]

No hate to Felix Lebrun, he fought well but the semi-finals against xiang peng (or even lin shidong vs felix) looked a lot more like a finals game compared to the actual finals. Felix simply did not have an answer against Wang Chuqin

Coaching can make a big difference in some of these matchuos. Maybe if Wang Hao is on the bench and feeds Wang Chuqin thr right information, maybe Xiang Peng doesnt take forever to beat.

 

[FIXPOINT]

China Smash 2025 WS Final

China Smash 2025 MS Final

China Smash 2025 WD Final

China Smash 2025 MD Final

China Smash 2025 XD Final

 

[dingyibvs]

Its not easy to make improvements. He is probably working on stuff but it will take at least 6 months to 2 years, sometimes more, to manifest in matches as something he can hang his hat on. And this is not something that it is going to be easy to measure by watching him play someone like Lebrun whose backhand gives lots of forehand players fits (WCQ is the exception as a lefty). Hugo is likely the bigger target. Lebrun has a couple of underappreciated advantages when playing power players. While there is no one quite like WCQ, between his brother and the French national team, there is a lot of high quality training on that team. Even some of the lower rated players like Borassaud have special quality.

In fact watching the video again, Lin Shidong is clearly playing more forehands on many balls, it just that he misses enough of them that the result is not clearly being improved by them.

Certainly not gonna be easy, to the point that I'm not sure he can really do it. Also, you can't just play more forehands, you need the footwork to do it. He really needs to improve both significantly to take a step forward.

 

[rpb23]

One obvious observation after watching men's semis and the final.
WCQ seemed a totally different player between the semi and the final. One fatigued, uninspiring, slow and bored; One, the familiar invincible and inspiring with a little anger.
Felix,on the other hand, also seemed quite a different player between the semi and the final. One lightening fast, inspiring, adapting and consistent; One clueless, error prone and hopeless.
WCQ's stark contrast may be due to his long tough schedule(he played all three events and the one who played the most matches) and playing against an upcoming young teammate. The final performance has to do with playing a non-Chinese and the responsibility of keeping the trophy in China.
Felix's stark contrast is most likely to do with how WCQ played. As often mentioned, when WCQ is in so called unplayable form, no one in the world can do much against him.

Congrats to the the triple crown winner WCQ,who is clearly the best player for the last two years, by far.