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What makes someone go from 1800 to 2000. What kind of drills are needed and how do you reach 2000 from 1800 in 3 months
I don't know about 3 months, I wouldn't put a time on it,but the most important thing is not so much training as to expose yourself to 2000 level competition on a regular basis especially in leagues so you can figure out how you win and lose points against them and gain the confidence to handle their ball quality on a regular basis. If you are in the right competitive environment. It is much easier. Looking for drills relies on this idea that winning points is about playing fitter table tennis. Winning points is about causing your opponents bigger problems with placement, ball quality and deception, returning your opponents stronger balls whether they are serves or returns or attacks and putting the ball on the table one more time than the opponent. How you do this is up to you and is not the result of abstract drills. It is the result of what you need to do to get better at winning points and no one can tell you what you need to improve to get there fastest without seeing your game.

In general, most players at 1800 are usually doing something that a player at 2000 is doing they just need to do it better and get better at making their opponents play into it.
 
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From my amateur point of view.

No matter what your level is, you need to work on your strength and weakness. Strength is your techniques or tactics that you know you can 100% win the point against same level players. Weakness is something that you don't want your opponents to find out in the first game and keep exploiting it.

This is something I ask myself once in a while. To improve 200 rating points means I need to consistently win against my current level. This means I need to consistently win 2 or 3 more points per game. What can I do to get 2 more points?
 
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From my amateur point of view.

No matter what your level is, you need to work on your strength and weakness. Strength is your techniques or tactics that you know you can 100% win the point against same level players. Weakness is something that you don't want your opponents to find out in the first game and keep exploiting it.

This is something I ask myself once in a while. To improve 200 rating points means I need to consistently win against my current level. This means I need to consistently win 2 or 3 more points per game. What can I do to get 2 more points?
This is exactly correct, and the good thing is that it is possible to play better using this approach without working on all the issues in your game - in fact, your game can have major issues and this approach will still largely work at improving your performance. I wouldn't say strengths and weaknesses so much as things that give you points and things that cost you points. In fact, you can have a weakness that never gets revealed if you never play a sequence that forces you to reveal it. IF you serve mostly long fast serves, no one will ever test your short push or short game on your serve, to give an example.
 
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Yeah but that was in a match and I got it first try. That’s why I posted it
IT's one point in a match. Your rating is not based on one point in a match. In fact, I once asked a 2250 player who hit a cool around the net shot on a 2550 player whether it was better to hit the coolest shot or to win the match. He said he wishes he had done both, but he had to settle for what he could do. lol.

Table tennis is not a beauty contest. Beautiful shots are cool, but the most important thing is to have skills that win matches.
 
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I don't know about 3 months, I wouldn't put a time on it,but the most important thing is not so much training as to expose yourself to 2000 level competition on a regular basis especially in leagues so you can figure out how you win and lose points against them and gain the confidence to handle their ball quality on a regular basis. If you are in the right competitive environment. It is much easier. Looking for drills relies on this idea that winning points is about playing fitter table tennis. Winning points is about causing your opponents bigger problems with placement, ball quality and deception, returning your opponents stronger balls whether they are serves or returns or attacks and putting the ball on the table one more time than the opponent. How you do this is up to you and is not the result of abstract drills. It is the result of what you need to do to get better at winning points and no one can tell you what you need to improve to get there fastest without seeing your game.

In general, most players at 1800 are usually doing something that a player at 2000 is doing they just need to do it better and get better at making their opponents play into it.
It's a good point that you should start playing some tournaments if you haven't. Record and analyze how you win/lose most points. Because training with the same group of people would make you get used to each other, which hinders improvement I think. That's why tournament matters if you have a big goal.
 
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It's a good point that you should start playing some tournaments if you haven't. Record and analyze how you win/lose most points. Because training with the same group of people would make you get used to each other, which hinders improvement I think. That's why tournament matters if you have a big goal.
I’m playing two this month and I’m playing westchester next month
 
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There are actually not so many skill oriented differences between an 1800 and 2000 when it comes to technical ability, it's almost exclusively match-based. I would say one of the biggest things that can make a difference is making the first loop against any and every long ball and being able to execute the first ball with close to 100% success. You would be shocked at how much difference being able to make a spinny first opening at every opportunity can make in matches at that level.

Your four main focus areas are serve, receive, first attack and first response (block, counter etc) and if you hone in on drills in those areas your match play should improve overall. Also drills that have more random elements after those 4 areas or with them. You can also put yourself in difficult mental positions, like playing matches where you only receive, or where you start with negative points or opponent has point handicaps etc.
 
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You just need to play more. Usually the difference between a 2000 and 1800 player is that the higher rated player's serve and serve return is better. They also make their 1st attack more frequently.

However, knowing about YOUR background, quit worrying about your rating and play as much as you can. Why are you 1800 and not 2000? Because you don't know how to handle every situation that a 2000 player can. How can you fix this? Play more. You will also get better as you age and get bigger and stronger.

Keep playing and don't worry about your rating. When you are 18 hopefully you are in the 2400-2500+ range. How are you going to do that? Playing for hours and hours and hours and hours. Good luck!
 
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Your four main focus areas are serve, receive, first attack and first response (block, counter etc)...
This is where most matches are won and lost at every level. Most club players don't focus nearly enough of their practice on the first four shots to maximize their competition level. If you do, you'll have a significant advantage. Even better is to be more specific. Record your matches (remember to bring a tripod along with your cell phone camera to your tournaments) and you'll see exactly how you tend to win and lose points against players at your target level. This will give you the information and motivation you need to work on exactly those things.
 
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What makes someone go from 1800 to 2000. What kind of drills are needed and how do you reach 2000 from 1800 in 3 months
First all, you need to play some tournaments where there quite a few 1900 to 2100 rated players to serve as your step stones, of course, you need to beat a few of them. U1900, U2000, U2100 events are the main avenue you need to target. Don't play U1850, U1800 events as playing against players at or under your rating, you win tiny and lose big as long as rating is concerned.
Skill wise, spending lots of time, training serve and receive, get really good at them. Also develop some reliable winning settings through specially designed drills. What not to do is mindless, endless top spin drills and only use them as warmup.
I remember years ago, I stayed at 1850 for a while just playing local tournament. Then, one day I traveled couple of hours to a nearby city for a tournament. The tournament size was about 40 players, not that big. I only played one round robin event of about 12 players. However, this group happened to have 6 players rated between 1850 to 2050. I ended up winning the group with only one loss. My rating was over 2000 the first time after the tournament.
 
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First all, you need to play some tournaments where there quite a few 1900 to 2100 rated players to serve as your step stones, of course, you need to beat a few of them. U1900, U2000, U2100 events are the main avenue you need to target. Don't play U1850, U1800 events as playing against players at or under your rating, you win tiny and lose big as long as rating is concerned.
Skill wise, spending lots of time, training serve and receive, get really good at them. Also develop some reliable winning settings through specially designed drills. What not to do is mindless, endless top spin drills and only use them as warmup.
I remember years ago, I stayed at 1850 for a while just playing local tournament. Then, one day I traveled couple of hours to a nearby city for a tournament. The tournament size was about 40 players, not that big. I only played one round robin event of about 12 players. However, this group happened to have 6 players rated between 1850 to 2050. I ended up winning the group with only one loss. My rating was over 2000 the first time after the tournament.
Don't play U1850, U1800 events as playing against players at or under your rating, you win tiny and lose big as long as rating is concerned."
This is terrible advice - even if one gets lucky in the short tern, the long term mental stability damage is incalculable. Rating points can always be earned back and it is easy to get adjustments from a lower rating. What is more important is to take a process mindset and continue to improve by looking at how you lost and closing out the gaps exploited. I have played many experienced players with similar strength to mine but once I am lower rated, some of them start thinking about the points they are going to lose and play much worse. Or they have no experience competing in events where they are the favorite and only feel comfortable playing upwards. You need the mental resilience to play whoever is at the table. Let the opposing player demonstrate they should win with good shots, no matter what their rating is.
 
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MY experience, I started playing TT in 2011 and broke 2000 for the first time in 2015 (I suspect it would be a bit harder for me today with the ball changes). I spent a significant amount of time in my head in the 1900 rating region going up and down even to 1800 and maybe 1700 sometimes (I could be wrong but the details are all online). When I complained to my coach about it in August 2014, he said that I already had the skills to be 2000, the problem was my mindset didn't believe it. My clubmates echoed this. I had just lost to an experienced 1500 player at a tournament in 5 games as well as an upcoming kid so I was a bit down.

So I spent the next few months playing a lot of leagues. I went to the two local clubs that were an hour to an hour and a half drives away from me every Tuesday and Friday night to play leagues. I remember one player who I asked what I could do to improve my game, he told me my game was trash and I had none. Amazingly I beat him the next weekend.

I broke 2000 in both leagues around Novemer/December 2014. So I knew it was a matter of time before I broke 2000. I did it in January 2015. So my advice comes from my personal experience as well. Playing leagues where lots of players at a specific strength keep the competitive level high strengthens you in a way that rated events with round robin formats but which have matches where you play significantly down do not. But that is not a reason to duck your event, that is a reason to be so good that you win your event (U1800/U1900) reliably.
 
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While such shots are cool, no one gets an improved rating from hitting trick shots. You do it by getting better results in matches against players at the level you are trying to reach.
Simon Gauzy being the exact opposite of your point.
Around the net BH from the BH side done, at least twice in the same match vs Lee Sang-SU
Around the net FH from the FH side done: vs Harimoto
Around the net FH from the BH side done: ok, it was only Bobrow
Around the net BH from the FH side done: we all remember than one vs LJK right ?

Bonus: the Timo "save from the net+post" under the net without even having to dive like a volleyball libero, done too: vs Ovidiu Ionescu.

That's why Pongfinity never invites Gauzy: they don't want to take lessons on trick shots.
 
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Simon Gauzy being the exact opposite of your point.
Around the net BH from the BH side done, at least twice in the same match vs Lee Sang-SU
Around the net FH from the FH side done: vs Harimoto
Around the net FH from the BH side done: ok, it was only Bobrow
Around the net BH from the FH side done: we all remember than one vs LJK right ?

Bonus: the Timo "save from the net+post" under the net without even having to dive like a volleyball libero, done too: vs Ovidiu Ionescu.

That's why Pongfinity never invites Gauzy: they don't want to take lessons on trick shots.
You like to troll don't you? Simon Gauzy wins points. Many players who play trick shots don't win points. You can win points playing trick shots. You don't post one point and then say that means that is how you win matches. Even Simon if you watch a whole match, less than 10% of the shots are trick shots.
 
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