Koji Matsuschita ZC - rubber combo

[.simo.]

Hi all
I’m thinking to get my very first carbon blade as until now I played only with a Defplay Senso V3 and a Koji Matuschita original.
I mentioned the VKM Tc as I liked the comfort of the VKM.

I’m a beginner and favour sticky rubbers with a lot of spin.
Control is for me more important than speed. I predilige chopping, passive blocks and chopping with occasional attacks.

I played a couple of times with a friend’s Neo hurricane provincial 39 blue sponge and victas 401 on FH and have to say, I liked both.

I have played also with LP (P1, P5 and donic barracuda cd) but without finding the right feeling, despite I kind of like to play with them (I guess it has to do with experience).

What would you suggest or what I should consider?
I don’t know wether I should abandon pips and go for an inverted on both sides.

Thanks everyone for the contribution!

 

[andymagata]

Fellow beginner, no further comparison needed.

In my club, many of us use carbon blades, but the best one with another level speed and precision is using 5 ply Peter Korbel.

In my club, only two of us use long pips, but it is completely useless for our level. Oppos do not loop at all, all of them revert to pushing against me. If I don’t chop, they forget what I am using and net the ball. Makes me feel like a lousy sparring partner and I tend to pivot to forehand all the time.

Still I love to play with inner carbon and long pips because it feels right in my hand somehow, my bh never adapted to inverted rubbers even if I tried for a year and the carbon blade does not have the stubbornness and resistance all wood blades I tried had.

Whatever you choose, commit to it, because there are pros and cons with everything.

 

[Ultravisitor]

Hi all
I’m thinking to get my very first carbon blade as until now I played only with a Defplay Senso V3 and a Koji Matuschita original.
I mentioned the VKM Tc as I liked the comfort of the VKM.

I’m a beginner and favour sticky rubbers with a lot of spin.
Control is for me more important than speed. I predilige chopping, passive blocks and chopping with occasional attacks.

I played a couple of times with a friend’s Neo hurricane provincial 39 blue sponge and victas 401 on FH and have to say, I liked both.

I have played also with LP (P1, P5 and donic barracuda cd) but without finding the right feeling, despite I kind of like to play with them (I guess it has to do with experience).

What would you suggest or what I should consider?
I don’t know wether I should abandon pips and go for an inverted on both sides.

Thanks everyone for the contribution!

If your a beginner I see to reasonable paths.
1) Stick with the blades you own (VKM and defplay) and become a chopper; like andy said, it's very rough in the beginning because the style is not really effective at low levels. But if that's whats fun for you go for it. But don't get a carbon defense blade. They make chopping harder.

2) Get some tried and trusted all/all+ blade (YSE, Stiga allround etc...) and put two control oriented or offensive rubbers on it and play an allround or control game

 

[.simo.]

If your a beginner I see to reasonable paths.
1) Stick with the blades you own (VKM and defplay) and become a chopper; like andy said, it's very rough in the beginning because the style is not really effective at low levels. But if that's whats fun for you go for it. But don't get a carbon defense blade. They make chopping harder.

2) Get some tried and trusted all/all+ blade (YSE, Stiga allround etc...) and put two control oriented or offensive rubbers on it and play an allround or control game

Thanks for your reply. I think you’re right, I am a bit impulsive…
What would you suggest for rubbers? I discovered Chinese ones (fh) and I pretty much them.
Also with pips, tried Piranja cd (0.3) on a persson powerplay, P1 (1mm) on the VKM and P5ox on the defplay.

 

[.simo.]

Fellow beginner, no further comparison needed.

In my club, many of us use carbon blades, but the best one with another level speed and precision is using 5 ply Peter Korbel.

In my club, only two of us use long pips, but it is completely useless for our level. Oppos do not loop at all, all of them revert to pushing against me. If I don’t chop, they forget what I am using and net the ball. Makes me feel like a lousy sparring partner and I tend to pivot to forehand all the time.

Still I love to play with inner carbon and long pips because it feels right in my hand somehow, my bh never adapted to inverted rubbers even if I tried for a year and the carbon blade does not have the stubbornness and resistance all wood blades I tried had.

Whatever you choose, commit to it, because there are pros and cons with everything.

I truly appreciate your comment, as it’s encourage me to not give up 🙂
I have problems being consistent and even though I know that I want to be a defensive player, I started to think that perhaps I am simply stubborn but not realistic.

 

[Ultravisitor]

Thanks for your reply. I think you’re right, I am a bit impulsive…
What would you suggest for rubbers? I discovered Chinese ones (fh) and I pretty much them.
Also with pips, tried Piranja cd (0.3) on a persson powerplay, P1 (1mm) on the VKM and P5ox on the defplay.

Personally I never liked sticky Chinese rubbers on defensive blades, because they require alot of power on those slower blades. I think the not so bouncy tensors are a good place to start: Rakza 7, Fastarc g1, Loki Telson 100 if you want something chinese.

Pips just pick something that's easy for you. Personally I liked Dawei 388d-1 0.5mm because you can do every shot reasonable; it doesn't have any glaring weakness

 

[piligrim]

Personally I never liked sticky Chinese rubbers on defensive blades, because they require alot of power on those slower blades. I think the not so bouncy tensors are a good place to start: Rakza 7, Fastarc g1, Loki Telson 100 if you want something chinese.

Pips just pick something that's easy for you. Personally I liked Dawei 388d-1 0.5mm because you can do every shot reasonable; it doesn't have any glaring weakness

From my experience 388D pretty fast and hard to chop with. I would recommend Feint Long 3 or P4V

 

[.simo.]

I will have a look at them for bh.
How about fh?

From my experience 388D pretty fast and hard to chop with. I would recommend Feint Long 3 or P4V

From my experience 388D pretty fast and hard to chop with. I would recommend Feint Long 3 or P4V

How about fh hand?

 

[piligrim]

I will have a look at them for bh.
How about fh?


How about fh hand?

On FH you can use any rubber. Depend on your preferences ... I would recommend something not very fast and not bouncy