ITTF Mixed Team World Cup 2025, Chengdu, 11/30-12/7

[zeio]

Ito played like crap against Batra.

 

[JackJohnson]

Ito played like crap against Batra.

Sora as well now 😢

 

[pongfugrasshopper]

Suddenly, Japan is in deep trouble. Get this last one Sora!

 

[driversbeat]

Maybe this is just a setup because Itoyata wanted to play doubles badly 👀

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

For these team events I wish ITTF could list who the captains are for each team. I know with other team sports there is an emphasis on who the captains are but with table tennis it’s not really publicly known unless the national team has stated who the captain is e.g Ma Long when he was playing.

Could also help the ITTF/WTT grow the sport of Table Tennis and market these players better especially if we know who the captain is and if they perform really well then even better for ITTF/WTT and the sport. Maybe have one male and one female captain per team and when they play in team events have a (c) next to their name to identify the captains/leaders of the team.

they need to learn from UTT
the atmosphere is very boring compared to a 6 season long UTT.

Team captain is also announced in UTT.
they would also interview team coaches/captains and even dash out shot of the match and other awards straight after the match.
very exciting.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Suddenly, Japan is in deep trouble. Get this last one Sora!

while in deep trouble, the 1 set won in match 2 and 3 makes a huge difference.

after Match 3, it could of be 3-6, but it was 5-4.
The top Indian womens doubles pairing is not there, so doubles Japan will always have the upper hand.

 

[PoppaChubby]

Not watching this crap

After the B52's live I watched Donnie Darko for the gazillionth time, I'm a huge Richard Kelly fan, all the 3 movies he has done are masterpieces.

 

[Angerer]

So Moregard is gonna ignore all events that involve the Swedish national team? Is the drama still going?

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

So Moregard is gonna ignore all events that involve the Swedish national team? Is the drama still going?

we will see in London

XDWC is not recognized as a proper tournament by some elites

 

[SilvestriDaVini]

I think France would have done better against Germany if they had played Gauzy and Pavade in mixed doubles, with Jia Nan Yuan as the singles player. It seemed inevitable that Winter would beat Pavade 3–0. But would that have forced Lutz to play women’s doubles? I’m not sure what to think about this rule that requires either 2 men and 2 women or 3 men and 3 women...

 

[NextLevel]

I think France would have done better against Germany if they had played Gauzy and Pavade in mixed doubles, with Jia Nan Yuan as the singles player. It seemed inevitable that Winter would beat Pavade 3–0. But would that have forced Lutz to play women’s doubles? I’m not sure what to think about this rule that requires either 2 men and 2 women or 3 men and 3 women...

Lutz is good at doubles. In the end people are still figuring out this format. PoppaChubby was spot on about how confusing it is to pick a team.

 

[NextLevel]

"中国台北，加油！"
“印度队，加油”

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[Tony's Table Tennis]

Lutz is good at doubles.

Lutz good at doubles??

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

I think France would have done better against Germany if they had played Gauzy and Pavade in mixed doubles, with Jia Nan Yuan as the singles player. It seemed inevitable that Winter would beat Pavade 3–0. But would that have forced Lutz to play women’s doubles? I’m not sure what to think about this rule that requires either 2 men and 2 women or 3 men and 3 women...

each team needs to play with min 3 players, max 4 players, and the gender number needs to match.
so in France's case, all 6 of them have to play.

Here is the ruling:

Guess, what, France only field 2 male players ...... I wonder if ITTF picked that up?

while Gauzy and Pavade might win 3-0 or also 2-1.
having Pavade there to win 1 set is also possible, I don't think anyone expect Pavade to win 2 or 3.
The mens loosing 2-4 in singles and doubles was what hurt the most.

If the mens did well, it would have come to a Pavade or Yuan + Cutz in womens doubles.
Having Yuan play singles, would make it also Pavade or Yuan + Cutz in womens doubles.

So how can France only use 2 mens is beyond what the rules says is beyond me.

 

[NextLevel]

Lutz good at doubles??

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Yes/ We have had this debate over using the eye test vs statistics where you have no clue what the quality of the opponents are. But these are the matches I have watched.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Yes/ We have had this debate over using the eye test vs statistics where you have no clue what the quality of the opponents are. But these are the matches I have watched.

why do you like to use provocable words?
fine
you are the only one on here that has a clue.

 

[NextLevel]

why do you like to use provocable words?
fine
you are the only one on here that has a clue.

Okay. The stats you just provided, can you please give the context underlying the stats and who the opponents were and what comparable players you would consider good do under similar conditions?

"You" didn't mean "Tony". "You" could be anybody including me. That's what I mean when I said the stats lack context. If you said "she played this event and went 0-5 in doubles with Pavade as her partner", I can understand that. But you posted a table that shows a record that that is barely negative with no information on who she lost to. That's what I mean by contextless. I cannot tell from that whether all the teams she lost to were Chinese, or whether her partner in those losses was a player she was randomly paired up with. But I do know she is XD champion of France. She plays doubles for France in team matchups that require doubles.

 

[pongfugrasshopper]

each team needs to play with min 3 players, max 4 players, and the gender number needs to match.
so in France's case, all 6 of them have to play.

Here is the ruling:
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Guess, what, France only field 2 male players ...... I wonder if ITTF picked that up?
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while Gauzy and Pavade might win 3-0 or also 2-1.
having Pavade there to win 1 set is also possible, I don't think anyone expect Pavade to win 2 or 3.
The mens loosing 2-4 in singles and doubles was what hurt the most.

If the mens did well, it would have come to a Pavade or Yuan + Cutz in womens doubles.
Having Yuan play singles, would make it also Pavade or Yuan + Cutz in womens doubles.

So how can France only use 2 mens is beyond what the rules says is beyond me.

I guess it could be how one interprets the playing system rules. Technically, France could say we do have a team of 3 per gender for the entire tournament: Lutz/Yuan/Pavade + Lebrun/Lebrun/Gauzy, but for this team match we decided just to field Lebrun/Lebrun + Pavade/Yuan.

 

[zeio]

Bursitis in the left shoulder for LYJ during WTT SCT Muscat 2025 on top of old ankle injury, took 7 injections. First competitive match for KCJ since China Smash 2025 and still not recovering from foot injury.

桌球／林昀儒、高承睿帶傷拼戰！ITTF混合團體世界盃遭南韓逆轉
https://www.nownews.com/amp/news/6760307

林昀儒與高承睿帶傷拼戰　坦言有點不適應

本場比賽也是高承睿近2個月來首次亮相。他自9月底中國大滿貫首輪敗給瑞典名將莫雷加德後因腿部傷勢休戰，並退出多項國內外賽事，高承睿也坦言傷勢仍未痊癒，「已經很久沒有比賽，今天對比賽強度和氛圍都有些不太適應。」

不僅如此，世界排名第13的林昀儒近期同樣因傷影響狀態。他在10月於阿曼舉行的WTT球星挑戰賽傷到左肩，確認為滑液囊炎，加上腳踝舊傷，共接受七針消炎注射，回國後也被迫短暫休養。儘管如此，林昀儒仍隨隊出征，並在小組賽前2戰僅上陣雙打，以避免加重傷勢。

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

I guess it could be how one interprets the playing system rules. Technically, France could say we do have a team of 3 per gender for the entire tournament: Lutz/Yuan/Pavade + Lebrun/Lebrun/Gauzy, but for this team match we decided just to field Lebrun/Lebrun + Pavade/Yuan.

here is the ruling:

To me, it is clear that each team match needs to be based on the playing system. It doesn't say you can just play with 2 and it doesn't say each team list shall consist of 3 or 4players.
From what we interpret when asked, is either 3 mens/womens or 4mens/womens needs to play (these are the only 2 options). So for a team like France having 6 players and one get injured, that is a problem.

It doesn't talk about team entries, France played with a team of 2 males. so they can only field max 2 females. based on the other ruling. So this means the team does not meet 3 or 4 players per gender ruling for the team matches.

how would you interpret it to say it is okay for two?

I am sure we can both agree, ITTF and rules, have a world class track record of poorly written (and from what we saw, poorly officiated too)