Experience with some other Loki rubbers - Arthur China, GTX Pro (inc)

[lodro]

That might be what it says on the Ali Express listing, but on the packaging it says Arthur China and Pro

See what i mean ? Loki = Total confusion 😂
Is it on the back of the packing ??

For reference on hardness in my testing: LAC Pro < R9 39 deg < H8-80 37 deg ~= LAC.

the problem continues because they advertise it as hardness being 40 and i don't like soft BH rubbers.

For reference on hardness in my testing: LAC Pro < R9 39 deg < H8-80 37 deg ~= LAC.

Maybe i misunderstand : Do you mean to say : " LAC Pro is harder than R9 39 deg. " ?????????????

 

[Grumms]

I played with every version there was/is out there is guess.

Even the blue sponge?

 

[lodro]

Even the blue sponge?

Black sponge too ??

 

[lodro]

Could this be a replacement for my un-boosted H3 BH rubber ????

 

[mattlamperouge]

Loki's Telson line keeps growing😅😎🔥
"NEW" TELSON SPEED... how would it be different than Telson 100 we can only guess hehe. Image Description states NON sticky, but instagram says sligthy sticky (wasnt germany that rubber?)

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[yodachi]

The TELSON series feels like an outdated rubber. The sheet is weak and there's not enough spin.
For me it's not much different from the Mark V.

 

[oophyte]

Loki's Telson line keeps growing😅😎🔥
"NEW" TELSON SPEED... how would it be different than Telson 100 we can only guess hehe. Image Description states NON sticky, but instagram says sligthy sticky (wasnt germany that rubber?)
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Even within that same image, the Chinese says "slightly sticky" while the English translation says "non-sticky". It's just a mistranslation.

 

[Grumms]

I was gonna share it. So, it has black sponge like the Telson China, but it's 47,5º/45º like the Telson 100/Germany. I think I'll wait for it to be available on AliExpress rather than rushing on Alibaba.

 

[latej]

H3N Prov BS 2.15 H41 - one layer is all I need/want.

My last Rxton 9 is properly spent - it's a nice feeling to know and be convinced that I deserve a new rubber ;-))... Next week will start using the H3 and will compare. The thing is the R9 is after 2nd re-glue, and each re-glue stretches it a bit, so the comparison is not like fair comparing of 2 new rubbers...

 

[andymagata]

Loki Rxton 3 Green is on the way, but which blade should I put it on? Yinhe 980 5 ply wood, Stiga pure 7 ply wood or Sanwei 75 inner PBO blade? For arguments sake, let us rule out my playing level, just what blade would bring out the best qualities of the rubber?

 

[Grumms]

Loki Rxton 3 Green is on the way, but which blade should I put it on? Yinhe 980 5 ply wood, Stiga pure 7 ply wood or Sanwei 75 inner PBO blade? For arguments sake, let us rule out my playing level, just what blade would bring out the best qualities of the rubber?

There's no such thing in table tennis.

 

[lodro]

Loki Rxton 3 Green is on the way, but which blade should I put it on? Yinhe 980 5 ply wood, Stiga pure 7 ply wood or Sanwei 75 inner PBO blade? For arguments sake, let us rule out my playing level, just what blade would bring out the best qualities of the rubber?

It will have to be YOU that will bring out the best of the rubber, the choice of the blade is pretty much irrelevant.

 

[latej]

Yesterday I had a 1st training with the H3N. The setup is 199g, with R9 H40,5 it was 192g, but it's not so that the H3N is 7g heavier, it's perhaps 3-4g heavier, because R9 was re-glued 2 times, and thus stretched and cut and thus made lighter. Also I applied glue generously for the H3N. But it does seem it is a bit heavier, and recently someone asked for lighter H3-like rubber, to which I replied it will be hard - now I correct myself, Rxton 9 is very H3-like and a bit lighter.

Regarding playing, first I don't mind the weight. Due to the new tackiness, the bounce is less on small hits in compare to the used R9, so I thought that a break-in period (1 or 2 trainings) will be needed. But it was not so, I could immediately adapt to H3, I didn't feel I need corrections. The rubbers are indeed close from the type of response. I enjoy the H3 H41 very much, especially on stronger hits it will not let you down, it will always make nice arc. The top-sheet is tiny bit different from R9, perhaps the H3 top-sheet is tiny bit stronger and R9 is tiny bit more elastic. But for me, they are closer to each other, than the H3's distance to D09C top-sheet.

H3 and R9 are for me the best dense-sponge rubbers. I'll play the 2nd half of the season with H3, and then I have some older rubbers, both FH and BH which I need to spend before I buy some new rubbers. That means, while I am interested in rubbers like J1 or Nuzn 55 (and the experiences people write here), I won't buy those in 2026. --no-more-ej

EDIT: Regarding the adapting, I had a hit with "729 Faster" rubber, which is also a tacky and dense-sponge rubber, and here I couldn't land consecutive FH top-spins. There the sponge response really is more different. I would adapt, but not immediately.

 

[Grumms]

Received, boosted and glued Telson Speed 47,5º. It will be tested tomorrow evening. I wonder what will be the difference with Telson Hyper or Germany. Probably none.

 

[Grumms]

Telson Speed extensively tested tonight. I'm very disappointed, it's the slowest Telson I tried. This black sponge does not seem very relevant. I'll go back to the Telson 100 for 2026.

 

[lodro]

This black sponge does not seem very relevant.

But at least Loki was successful with their clever plan to screw some money out of you.
🤣🤣 🤣 🤣

I had better luck buying the :

LOKI RXTON 9 Provincial Team Special / National Team Special Zhou Yu L​

this rubber CAN replace my hard H3 and the BH and i got one for NZ$ 21.25 on one of those rare "first come first served deals".

 

[Grumms]

Back to Telson 100 tonight and I'm pleased with it. I glued the Telson Speed on my Stuor Nobilis, and even on that fast blade it's quite slow. I will add 1 or 2 more layers of JieChi.

 

[Table10Ice]

I read in another thread that Loki Arthur Europe could be compared to Rakza Z, is that true?

But then I also wonder, if the Loki Rxton 3 Pro could be even closer to ESN hybrid rubbers?

Or should I just choose Loki Arthur Europe if I want a Loki rubber that's most similar to ESN hybrids?

 

[mattlamperouge]

I read in another thread that Loki Arthur Europe could be compared to Rakza Z, is that true?

But then I also wonder, if the Loki Rxton 3 Pro could be even closer to ESN hybrid rubbers?

Or should I just choose Loki Arthur Europe if I want a Loki rubber that's most similar to ESN hybrids?

Probably Arthur europe (blue package), Arthur china, Rxton 7 & Rxton 3 pro have closer feeling to some ESN hybrids...all rubbers have their own characteristics so dont get your hopes too high if you want a exact copy of Rakza Z (just buy that😅)

 

[lodro]

I want a Loki rubber that's most similar to ESN hybrids?

Are all ESN hybrids the same ?
Are they not all a bit different like all the chineses rubbers are all different ?

I have no experience with ESN rubbers but Gooogle tells me that they are slightly tacky and a bit bouncy. If this is true then don't get a Loki Rxton 3Pro because it is one of the tackiest rubbers on the market and can lift and hold a ball for 10 seconds.