Upgrade from Ma Lin Carbon

[MOG]

Hi I want to get a slightly faster thicker inner carbon.

a bit more speed than Yasaka Ma Lin Carbon

Falck carbon is horrible and not what i was expecting at all

I don't like Nittaku handles so no Nittaku

I very briefly tried a friends Butterfly Innerforce Layer ALC (new one) the other day and though it wa beautiful for looping although it was a knock.

What do people think about Innerforce Layer ALC bear in mind I'm going to be using short pimples on bh

I don't want 7 ply wood recommendations!!

What do all the Innerforce Layer Peeps have to say please?

 

[vvk1]

Yasaka Ma Lin Carbon & Ma Lin Extra Offensive [Full Review] (updated on 12th October 2023)

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Any blade from the "inner alc" circle from the second link would be slightly faster than ymlc while still retaining the "deep hold" properly. They'd feel a big harder than ymlc though.

 

[piligrim]

Lind

 

[MOG]

A bit harder might actually improve the pips on bh!

 

[MOG]

Lind

don't like Donic stuff too much

 

[belllfador]

Spinlord Ultra Carbon 2021, limba top, ayous core, inner carbon, speed off-, frequency 1280 Hz.

 

[ToH]

Maybe Xiom hayabusa Zl Pro? But i think its not much faster than the blade you use now. Maybe if you get a heavier example? The handle is very close to Butterfly Franziska Zlc and Tibhar AC Inside

 

[ShakehandJpenCpenEnjoyer]

don't like Donic stuff too much

Afaik lind is produced by dhs. Hence the cheap price for a player version wood. I have one, it's incredible.

 

[kapahoo]

Whats horrible about Falck Carbon?

 

[MOG]

Whats horrible about Falck Carbon?

I just cant control it, it feels a bit flat and direct to me but also quite reactive. I am sure it would be fine for most players

 

[Tyce]

Hi I want to get a slightly faster thicker inner carbon.

a bit more speed than Yasaka Ma Lin Carbon

Falck carbon is horrible and not what i was expecting at all

I don't like Nittaku handles so no Nittaku

I very briefly tried a friends Butterfly Innerforce Layer ALC (new one) the other day and though it wa beautiful for looping although it was a knock.

What do people think about Innerforce Layer ALC bear in mind I'm going to be using short pimples on bh

I don't want 7 ply wood recommendations!!

What do all the Innerforce Layer Peeps have to say please?

I play IFL ALC and have a Donic Waldner Senso Carbon which is supposed to be the same as Ma Lin Carbon. I trimmed it from a Cpen so the headsize is normal.
Comparing these, I would say the IFL ALC is *significantly* stiffer. The DWSC feels closer to my Appelgren Allplay than it does to the IFL.
However... I think it works on this particular blade, and after a solid transition period (even coming from Korbel) I can say it is a great spinner's blade. And, to be perfectly honest, I don't know what would be a good blade between the IFL ALC and the Ma Lin Carbon.

 

[AMonteiro]

Yasaka Atletico Power or Resonate AI

 

[Tembel]

A bit harder might actually improve the pips on bh!

There are a couple of inner carbon blades from Stiga with Koto outer. They will be harder than the Innerforce ALC that has Limba outer. They are also a bit faster.

- Cybershape Carbon (Truls blade)
- Inspira CCF (Pretty much same blade as the Cybershape Carbon, but cheaper and round head shape)
- Aura Hybrid Carbon

 

[piligrim]

I play IFL ALC and have a Donic Waldner Senso Carbon which is supposed to be the same as Ma Lin Carbon.

Waldner Senso Carbon same as Ma Lin Soft Carbon. Ma Lin Carbon different

 

[Tyce]

Waldner Senso Carbon same as Ma Lin Soft Carbon. Ma Lin Carbon different

Nope, Soft Carbon has a different top layer. It's confusing, because both Yasakas use fleece carbon but only one is called "Soft Carbon".
WSC: Limba
MLC: Limba
MLSC: Anegre or Akazie depending on who you ask.

 

[kapahoo]

I just cant control it, it feels a bit flat and direct to me but also quite reactive. I am sure it would be fine for most players

Ok!
Just wondering cause I like the Yasaka handles and been eyeing the Falck Carbon.

I think the IF ALC would be about the same though? Similar thickness and composition.

 

[MOG]

Whats horrible about Falck Carbon?

I just think it felt dead, no feeling, not great for looping but my pips were also worse on it.

 

[MOG]

There are a couple of inner carbon blades from Stiga with Koto outer. They will be harder than the Innerforce ALC that has Limba outer. They are also a bit faster.

- Cybershape Carbon (Truls blade)
- Inspira CCF (Pretty much same blade as the Cybershape Carbon, but cheaper and round head shape)
- Aura Hybrid Carbon

don't want stiga with koto that's a totally different feel

 

[MOG]

Ok!
Just wondering cause I like the Yasaka handles and been eyeing the Falck Carbon.

I think the IF ALC would be about the same though? Similar thickness and composition.

i think they are quite different blades

 

[staysmart]

https://ttgearlab.com/2024/03/15/performance-indices-db-inner-fiber-blades/ some ideas here.
Look for similar values for Ec/Ep and Vl/Vp as Ma lin Carbon (0.87 and 1.06) that will supposedly give you the same feeling as Ma Lin carbon. And some faster speed (Ep and Ec). For instance Xiom 36.5 ALXi or Tibhar Fortino Performance or Nittaku Hina Hayata H2 or DHS Hurricane 301 and so on.