Is there a Donic Anders Lind blade review?

[FrenchFrog33]

Has anyone posted a review of the Donic Anders Lind Hexa Carbon blade? I couldn't find one on this site.

 

[mightymouse]

I think Dan has video about it, although it is not a very detailed review, just few comments from Lind himself.

Check this out:

If you want the concise version (where the blade is discussed, instead of watching the whole thing) then check this out:

2.1K views · 34 reactions | TECH-TALK: Top-Player Anders lind explains in the video with Daniel Ives from tabletennisdaily why he loves the veneer combination of his new blade... | By DONIC | Facebook

TECH-TALK: Top-Player Anders lind explains in the video with Daniel Ives from tabletennisdaily why he loves the veneer combination of his new blade...

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I hope it helps.

 

[TampaBayTableTennis]

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[Marvinn8686]

Some time ago TTgearlab dropped blogentry with description and measurements of this blade

Donic Anders Lind HexaCarbon [Photos & Information]

Donic ‘Anders Lind HexaCarbon’, released in 2024, is the signature blade developed by Donic for promising Danish player, Anders Lind (Anders Von Lavergne Pegu Lind). Anders Lind is a le…

ttgearlab.com

 

[piligrim]

I wouldn't take serious what Lind himself say about his blade

 

[TimoGnoll]

I wouldn't take serious what Lind himself say about his blade

Love the video. "I am biased, so I brought my FRIEND to tell you it is good." XD
I own the blade though and I have to say it works like they describe. It is not super fast. It is not super stiff. It is not super hard. Produces nice arc. Loops decently. Good for chiquitas and strawberries and other slow brushes. Good feeling. Very good blade for the price. I tested something very similiar - Ma Lin Soft Carbon from Yasaka and Lind is better in every way. They are almost the same, just different outer layer. Koto - Lind, Anegre - MLSC. They are both suitable for beginners, but Lind has more feeling, while Yasaka is slower and safer, both very good control. Blade works well with spin oriented rubbers.

 

[Chunkyrock]

I have this blade but haven’t played much with it the first thing I noticed was that it was head heavy. The feeling is kinda hard to explain but I didn’t love or hate it. The blade is very good in service and short game but the carbon kicks in when hitting hard. All in all would recommend for the price range

 

[rbtitco]

I have this blade but haven’t played much with it the first thing I noticed was that it was head heavy. The feeling is kinda hard to explain but I didn’t love or hate it. The blade is very good in service and short game but the carbon kicks in when hitting hard. All in all would recommend for the price range

Thats what i wondered about. I realize it has a lower initial speed on lighter hits, but wondered what its gears were like. IE some blades feel slower initially but when ur ripping strong fh's they come alive with plenty of power. So for you, it seems it didnt lack power on the top end. Thanksfor the report
Edit. It feels like some blades have a power limit. Like past a certain point it doesnt matter how hard u het. It wont go faster. Others u get what u put in. Does this blade have a kind of limit or no?

 

[TimoGnoll]

Thats what i wondered about. I realize it has a lower initial speed on lighter hits, but wondered what its gears were like. IE some blades feel slower initially but when ur ripping strong fh's they come alive with plenty of power. So for you, it seems it didnt lack power on the top end. Thanksfor the report
Edit. It feels like some blades have a power limit. Like past a certain point it doesnt matter how hard u het. It wont go faster. Others u get what u put in. Does this blade have a kind of limit or no?

All blades have their limits.
According to TTGEARLAB measurments it is slower in that regard than Viscaria and other blades, but not by much.
Looking at Ec value here. Donic Lind: 1.88. Comparing it to Yasaka Ma Lin Soft Carbon: 1.07. Viscaria: 2.15.
By real life tests I can confirm that Donic Lind ramps up nicely, while Yasaka MLSC was bad in that regard. No matter how hard I smacked it didn't produce greater speed. I must say on smashes from lobbing it was kinda pathetic XD
Comparing to other blades that weren't measured like Yinhe Pro 01, which is close to Viscaria or Timo Boll ALC in terms of speed I would say you can feel those blades add more power and ramp up way quicker, which is to be expected since it is an outer carbon. From my personal experience even when hitting hard topspin it still retained good arc from mid distance, while my other blades they go more straight when hit hard. Far from table I rarely play so you would just need to check Anders Lind official games when he hits the ball from there and perform an eye-test if it looks fast enough. For me it is plenty fast, but I am noob, not a league player.

 

[rbtitco]

All blades have their limits.
According to TTGEARLAB measurments it is slower in that regard than Viscaria and other blades, but not by much.
Looking at Ec value here. Donic Lind: 1.88. Comparing it to Yasaka Ma Lin Soft Carbon: 1.07. Viscaria: 2.15.
By real life tests I can confirm that Donic Lind ramps up nicely, while Yasaka MLSC was bad in that regard. No matter how hard I smacked it didn't produce greater speed. I must say on smashes from lobbing it was kinda pathetic XD
Comparing to other blades that weren't measured like Yinhe Pro 01, which is close to Viscaria or Timo Boll ALC in terms of speed I would say you can feel those blades add more power and ramp up way quicker, which is to be expected since it is an outer carbon. From my personal experience even when hitting hard topspin it still retained good arc from mid distance, while my other blades they go more straight when hit hard. Far from table I rarely play so you would just need to check Anders Lind official games when he hits the ball from there and perform an eye-test if it looks fast enough. For me it is plenty fast, but I am noob, not a league player.

Thanks for the info. Ive tried to understand ttgearlab ratings but i think it only concerns light hits. Cuz ive played soft blades with lower values that have crazy power away from the table and vice versa.
The Lind is known for having a unigue arc and giving a different kind of bounce that can be troublesome, in the right hands. Itsgood to hear that u can get good arc out of it, too. I see Lind hit just fine with it, but his footwork is so much faster than mine that our shots in any kind of a game cant be compared. Anyway, thanks for sharing your experience, the Lind is an interesting blade and im glad you like it, its a pretty good value, too. Theres a lot of good players in the 3rd world that could use a nice blade at this price point.

 

[SlowPower]

This Lind Blade for me looks the same as the donic true carbon inner (tci).
Anyone who can compare them?

 

[TimoGnoll]

This Lind Blade for me looks the same as the donic true carbon inner (tci).
Anyone who can compare them?

From my experience with blades - Koto on top of Ayous is more bouncy, gives more pronounced ball feeling on hit. Limba is a bit harder gives crispier feeling when hitting the ball, and is less bouncy.
You have to take into the consideration also thickness of the outer plies. DTCI has thicker outer plies, so it should be less controlled on slow to medium speed shots than LIND HC. If outer plies are thinner they "give in" more to the force of the ball. And carbon is something I don't know how one differs from the other. Anyway my point is even though they have similiar construction they can play in 2 completely different ways. They should both offer good feeling of the ball though since one is Koto/Ayous other Koto/Limba I find these kind of setups to offer better feeling/feedback than Limba/Ayous or Limba/Limba. Theorizing here I think the DTCI will be more offensive blade.

 

[Tembel]

Thanks for the info. Ive tried to understand ttgearlab ratings but i think it only concerns light hits. Cuz ive played soft blades with lower values that have crazy power away from the table and vice versa.
The Lind is known for having a unigue arc and giving a different kind of bounce that can be troublesome, in the right hands. Itsgood to hear that u can get good arc out of it, too. I see Lind hit just fine with it, but his footwork is so much faster than mine that our shots in any kind of a game cant be compared. Anyway, thanks for sharing your experience, the Lind is an interesting blade and im glad you like it, its a pretty good value, too. Theres a lot of good players in the 3rd world that could use a nice blade at this price point.

This is how TTgearlabs explains the "Elasticity" rating:
"As the name itself expresses elasticity index means the elasticity (= stiffness) of blade. So it is directly concerned with speed of blade. Especially Ep is similar to speed. Ec becomes meaningful only when we hit blade very hard. The higher value of Ec means that the blade can give more ‘kick’ when we hit the blade very hard."

So you need to look at both Ep and Ec.

Looking at the stats at ttgearlabs the Anders Lind blade score higher on both elasticity meassurements than Dimas ALC blade from Butterfly. This means it is in fact a very fast blade, both on light and hard strokes.

 

[TimoGnoll]

This is how TTgearlabs explains the "Elasticity" rating:
"As the name itself expresses elasticity index means the elasticity (= stiffness) of blade. So it is directly concerned with speed of blade. Especially Ep is similar to speed. Ec becomes meaningful only when we hit blade very hard. The higher value of Ec means that the blade can give more ‘kick’ when we hit the blade very hard."

So you need to look at both Ep and Ec.

Looking at the stats at ttgearlabs the Anders Lind blade score higher on both elasticity meassurements than Dimas ALC blade from Butterfly. This means it is in fact a very fast blade, both on light and hard strokes.

Yeah I completely agree, but @rbtitco asked when you hit it hard. And Ec is how mouch does it add when you hit it hard.

 

[SlowPower]

From my experience with blades - Koto on top of Ayous is more bouncy, gives more pronounced ball feeling on hit. Limba is a bit harder gives crispier feeling when hitting the ball, and is less bouncy.
You have to take into the consideration also thickness of the outer plies. DTCI has thicker outer plies, so it should be less controlled on slow to medium speed shots than LIND HC. If outer plies are thinner they "give in" more to the force of the ball. And carbon is something I don't know how one differs from the other. Anyway my point is even though they have similiar construction they can play in 2 completely different ways. They should both offer good feeling of the ball though since one is Koto/Ayous other Koto/Limba I find these kind of setups to offer better feeling/feedback than Limba/Ayous or Limba/Limba. Theorizing here I think the DTCI will be more offensive blade.

For me both middle layers Look like ayous, though donic states limba for one.
You can see it by looking at the 45° diagonal pattern.

 

[TimoGnoll]

For me both middle layers Look like ayous, though donic states limba for one.
You can see it by looking at the 45° diagonal pattern.

No need to inspect it by eye. Composition is on donic website. Its probably the only manufacturer that actually specifies which materials they've used. Which is great and we all should be supportive of that. Props to DONIC.
DTCI: 7 plies of Kiri (inner), Hybrid Aramid Carbon (3+5), Ayous (2&6), Koto (1&7, outer)
DLHXC: 7 layers of Kiri (inner), Hexamid Carbon (3+5), Limba (2+6), Koto (1+7 outer)
EDIT1: Yeah Limba looks close to ayous, but is a little darker and gets darker with use. They can look very close to each other though and are not far off in the terms of properties:
-LIMBA
Janka Hardness: 670 lbf (2,990 N)
Elastic Modulus: 1,520,000 lbf/in2 (10.49 GPa)
-AYOUS
Janka Hardness: 440 lbf (1,960 N)
Elastic Modulus: 934,000 lbf/in2 (6.44 GPa)

 

[SlowPower]

I have Ayous at home which is harder than some Limba plies I also have.
Then I have Limba which ist harder and heavier than most Koto plies.
So it depends on the single blade how it plays. Hard to tell just by knowing the composition (but for sure there are tendencies).

Maybe Donic has a wrong photo of the Lind blade- because thats not Limba I would say.

 

[TimoGnoll]

I also have a blade Koto/Ayous and this Ayous is harder than Koto/Limba, but the caveat is that it is thicker than Limba. Thinner layer bends more than thicker one.
I've also used Tibhar IV-L and it was all Ayous 4 layers, but it was rather hard and stiff, with duller soft feeling because Ayous is a softer wood.
My conclusion is that if you take both and make layer have the same thickness then it would be direct comparison.

 

[piligrim]

I feel this blade very good for bh. Handle thick, long and very comfortable.
In game it remind a bit Pro 05 but slower, better control and much more comfortable handle

 

[Larshos]

I feel this blade very good for bh. Handle thick, long and very comfortable.
In game it remind a bit Pro 05 but slower, better control and much more comfortable handle

FL or ST handle?