Inner / outer carbon hybrid blades?

[SorryForTheEdge]

Hi all, are there any blades that have inner ( 2x wood + carbon) construction on one side and outer ( wood + carbon + wood) construction on the other side? I like FH looping with innerforce blades, but for BH attacks I prefer outerforce ones. A hybrid inn/out blade like that would benefit my playstyle.

 

[Ian]

Only one I can think of is the Stuor BLACK GOLD Violent. It's a cheap Chinese product though, so it's not going to be the highest quality

 

[staysmart]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006311067533.html

 

[wiktor145]

Yinhe Pro 11s and 13s

 

[qylw]

Close to what you asking is Sanwei TwoFace and XVT TwoFace: wood on one side and carbon on the other.

 

[Reaper]

if anyone goes for the Yinhe Pro 11s, please leave a review

 

[lodro]

DHS Hurricane G (or J)

It is my No 2 blade which i only use when I feel great and up to handling it. It is a very fast blade on both sides and not much difference between them. I use the "mild" Loki Rxton 3 Pro on FH which keeps most of my shots on the table and Unboosted H3 on my BH which is great for blocking and topspin BH-flicks.

I used to have a Stuor asymetrical blade as well, also a very nicely build blade at half the price.
Summing up my "asymetrical -blade -experience", it is a bit of a fad, considering that most of us use different rubbers on either side of our blades anyway.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007814004822.html?algo_exp_id=af69c226-c708-4b0e-a66c-8e20ac2f37c7-0&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22order%22%3A%22-1%22%2C%22eval%22%3A%221%22%2C%22fromPage%22%3A%22search%22%7D&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch%7Cquery_from%3A%7Cx_object_id%3A1005007814004822%7C_p_origin_prod%3A

 

[gottalain]

The new Xiom 2026 catalogue have one, 50. anniversary blade, the name is 2 face

 

[Dr Evil]

OSP Vario off+/off with koto/alc outer on one side and limba/alc inner on the other. I've tried this blade. The two sides definitely feel different, both excellent. Highest quality build. I found it very fast (both sides faster than my Viscaria). OSP also makes a 6-ply off/off- version which I think is koto/alc outer on one side and limba (all wood) on the other.

 

[golden_son]

I ordered a Yinhe Pro 11s a few days ago. Leaving a note here to myself to update this once I have a chance to play with it.

 

[brightcell]

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/new-gewo-blades-anjaehyun-carbon-basic-and-prithika-pavade-carbon-basic.39191/

 

[CallMeZaddy]

Darko Infinity Carbon

 

[chiefvevo]

I ordered a Yinhe Pro 11s a few days ago. Leaving a note here to myself to update this once I have a chance to play with it.

how was it

 

[golden_son]

how was it

Haha, I left myself a note and then forgot. I still use it as my primary blade, which I didn't expect. It was an experiment that has worked out well.

The handle is thinner than I like but I added a grip. Mine is 91g but feels lighter. Despite the smaller handle it isn't too head-heavy. The two sides play clearly different. The spruce + inner PLC side is livelier than the various limba inner blades I've tried but it still has more dwell and a softer touch than an outer carbon blade. It's kind of a nice in-between actually. I've put Glayzer on this and a Yinhe Pro 05 and while the rubber feels OK but kinda dead on the Pro 05 it really comes alive on the Pro 11s. The koto + outer ALC side feels just like other koto outer blades I've owned -- backhand loops, drives, and counters are very stable.

If I had one complaint (other than the handle), it would be that the FH side doesn't feel  quite as solid as I'd like on harder hits, e.g. smashes. I think the core could be ~0.1-0.2mm thicker, which would solve the handle size problem as well, though it might cost some flex.

 

[Yxoons]

Darko Infinity Carbon

This.

 

[chiefvevo]

Haha, I left myself a note and then forgot. I still use it as my primary blade, which I didn't expect. It was an experiment that has worked out well.

The handle is thinner than I like but I added a grip. Mine is 91g but feels lighter. Despite the smaller handle it isn't too head-heavy. The two sides play clearly different. The spruce + inner PLC side is livelier than the various limba inner blades I've tried but it still has more dwell and a softer touch than an outer carbon blade. It's kind of a nice in-between actually. I've put Glayzer on this and a Yinhe Pro 05 and while the rubber feels OK but kinda dead on the Pro 05 it really comes alive on the Pro 11s. The koto + outer ALC side feels just like other koto outer blades I've owned -- backhand loops, drives, and counters are very stable.

If I had one complaint (other than the handle), it would be that the FH side doesn't feel  quite as solid as I'd like on harder hits, e.g. smashes. I think the core could be ~0.1-0.2mm thicker, which would solve the handle size problem as well, though it might cost some flex.

i used all the chatgpt pro usage i had on reviews from the chinese forums and they all said the same thing as you, the pro-11s inner side is too inconsistent sometimes fast sometimes slow. I am not sure if you tried the 13s pro but a lot of people said its soft and good control. But theres a missing member of the family, the 12s I searched everywhere for it, all sold out. Even in the deepest corner of the internet that me and gpt can't find it. I ended up using an agent from China to help me search for it because it is the best out of the 3 family according to a Chinese review whom supposedly tested all 3, said that the 12s is the best and balanced. Good news is shoutout to my agent, they found it, I had to use Superbuy to buy it, hopefully it works as I expected it. This one is Provincial version so I hope the handle is a bit closer to a Butterfly Vis, I hate thin handle.

Also a rare find, Sword who previously made blade for Lin Gaoyuan has a hybrid inner outer blade.
TL;DR: 3 versions, 11s, 12s, 13s 12s is the best according to chinese reviews: Ma Long 5x fh/ Vis bh. Hard to find but I got an agent to find it and I bought it using Superbuy to the US.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256812233267309.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.5.939cMpn5Mpn5QK&algo_pvid=c70fbf17-b923-47ff-b521-f9bb6a22d5d4&algo_exp_id=c70fbf17-b923-47ff-b521-f9bb6a22d5d4-4&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22order%22%3A%221%22%2C%22eval%22%3A%221%22%2C%22fromPage%22%3A%22search%22%7D&pdp_npi=6%40dis%21USD%2150.81%2150.81%21%21%21342.84%21342.84%21%402101e80b17836820875731005e0fef%2112000058310543886%21sea%21US%211618886997%21X%211%210%21n_tag%3A-29919%3Bd%3Aaa2f7cc1%3Bm03_new_user%3A-29895&curPageLogUid=71pvP5H6MFQa&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch%7Cquery_from%3A%7Cx_object_id%3A1005012419582061%7C_p_origin_prod%3A

 

[golden_son]

i used all the chatgpt pro usage i had on reviews from the chinese forums and they all said the same thing as you, the pro-11s inner side is too inconsistent sometimes fast sometimes slow. I am not sure if you tried the 13s pro but a lot of people said its soft and good control. But theres a missing member of the family, the 12s I searched everywhere for it, all sold out. Even in the deepest corner of the internet that me and gpt can't find it. I ended up using an agent from China to help me search for it because it is the best out of the 3 family according to a Chinese review whom supposedly tested all 3, said that the 12s is the best and balanced. Good news is shoutout to my agent, they found it, I had to use Superbuy to buy it, hopefully it works as I expected it. This one is Provincial version so I hope the handle is a bit closer to a Butterfly Vis, I hate thin handle.

Also a rare find, Sword who previously made blade for Lin Gaoyuan has a hybrid inner outer blade.
TL;DR: 3 versions, 11s, 12s, 13s 12s is the best according to chinese reviews: Ma Long 5x fh/ Vis bh. Hard to find but I got an agent to find it and I bought it using Superbuy to the US.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256812233267309.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.5.939cMpn5Mpn5QK&algo_pvid=c70fbf17-b923-47ff-b521-f9bb6a22d5d4&algo_exp_id=c70fbf17-b923-47ff-b521-f9bb6a22d5d4-4&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22order%22%3A%221%22%2C%22eval%22%3A%221%22%2C%22fromPage%22%3A%22search%22%7D&pdp_npi=6%40dis%21USD%2150.81%2150.81%21%21%21342.84%21342.84%21%402101e80b17836820875731005e0fef%2112000058310543886%21sea%21US%211618886997%21X%211%210%21n_tag%3A-29919%3Bd%3Aaa2f7cc1%3Bm03_new_user%3A-29895&curPageLogUid=71pvP5H6MFQa&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch%7Cquery_from%3A%7Cx_object_id%3A1005012419582061%7C_p_origin_prod%3A

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Awesome work! I had no idea those other versions existed or I would have tried them instead of the 11s. That said, the 11s (in addition to turns with the Donic Waldner WC 89 and my old old Butterfly VSG-4000) taught me that I seem to like spruce, at least on the FH. Still, if this method works out and you're able to acquire the 12s/13s I'll have to DM you about your process so I can try them myself!

If the 12s is Long 5x FH (limba-ayous-ALC), what is the 13s composition?

 

[Faker]

Hi all, are there any blades that have inner ( 2x wood + carbon) construction on one side and outer ( wood + carbon + wood) construction on the other side? I like FH looping with innerforce blades, but for BH attacks I prefer outerforce ones. A hybrid inn/out blade like that would benefit my playstyle.

Gewo An Jaehyun blade. I heard that it is excellent blade

 

[SorryForTheEdge]

Gewo An Jaehyun blade. I heard that it is excellent blade

Interesting that they market the inner carbon for BH. I personally prefer hold on forehand loops and direct outer carbon kick on backhand for effortless blocking / countering near the table.

 

[Faker]

Interesting that they market the inner carbon for BH. I personally prefer hold on forehand loops and direct outer carbon kick on backhand for effortless blocking / countering near the table.

I believe you should try it. But it is an excellent blade for its price.