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Hi TTD members ^^

I am a newbie in table tennis and also in our forum.

I have been seriously thinking to practice and train properly for more than a year, and been taking lesson on table tennis for roughly 7 months (but as grad student I just only can do once a week T_T, that's why even though I have spent quite long time but didn't get improve much)..

Month ago, my coach advised me to record my games and my moves, then study on my mistakes and it may suit to any trainee like me who doesn't have much time playing and training. So, here are my first clips which was taken roughly month ago in student tournament:

This first match here is actually one of the most wonderful feeling when I got a chance to play against the guy who was my idol half year ago. He is classified as 4th-year player while I am 2nd-year player. I was shaking a lot and made so many mistakes, especially in both tempo and chop. But fortunately my opponent was also not really in good mood that day, perhaps :D

This second match I played with much more confidence after got a praise from the idol guy above lol.. and I knew somehow from the beginning that I was able to win this game. But still, there were mistakes a lot

My seemingly permanent problems are warm-up (taking too long to get normal state) and mental weakness in tourney. All my training partners always hope I could play about 60% of training matches on tourney :( And I realize it might be from my warm-up issue as well.

Anyhow, I would appreciate a lot if I also luckily get some comments and courage from you guys to motivate me keep tracking my progress (probably monthly recording) as well as improve my game from mistakes.

Thanks and regards
Brice
 
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It appears you are the one wearing the Red Yasaka Rakurai Jersey. I have one in blue, hehe.

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You do alright when you go on the attack and keep it up, even with the misses, it profits you to attack first.

Where you stand to gain the most improvement...

1) Serve/Attack - Your serve and attack are not very well linked and you do not appear to be using the serve as a way to gain an immediate offensive advantage. You frequently serve long in an ineffective way. That means your long serves are easy for opponent to attack if he wants as it is neither fast nor landing near endline. You do not have a lot of variety of serves with same serve motion and it holds you back a lot. One can serve both long and short and get a lot of good balls to attack, but you have to be able to do both with same motion and change up everything on command. This takes a lot of practice and time. When you are at a club, practice serves in the practice area. if it is full, do it on empty table. If all tables are full, sit on a chair and try to finely cut the ball, make the ball go forward a meter on the ground and roll back. it will practice your timing, impact, and wrist arm control.

2) Serve Receive - you do not keep your returns low, you pop them up too much. You decide to push nearly everything back, but you strike the ball too late after the bounce to make an effective push. Look at the push return of a div 1 or div 2 player and you see it is not easily attacked, is fast, low, and either wide angle or right at the elbow. You do not change spins speeds or locations much. You could gain a lot of room by improving serve receive. You are giving away or should I say NOT taking points from your opponent in this area.

3) Blocking - You seem to like to block far from the table and you blocked a lot long and out. There is a reason for this. Spin takes effect more further after the bounce. Blocking away from table only allows opponent to attack again. Stay at the table and block right after the bounce, you will have better results. The spin will bite less and you have better control of the block, plus more angles to work with AND you rush opponent. I will demonstrate this for you personally if I meet you this Friday. When you block right off the bounce, you take away time from opponent and you get errors or easier balls to deal with. I will also show you a 1-2-3 block system if you can stay at the table that will absolutely WORK at your level. Even if opponent knows where you are blocking, if he tries to FH attack and you can block in the pattern I show you, he will lose the point before or on the 3rd block.

4) Reading Spin - You were confused many times about the spin and it led to a lot of your errors. This will improve as you get better in TT.

5) Middle game - This area covers the non-serve and non-attacking shots. Sometimes, it makes sense not to strongly attack a ball for many reasons. maybe you are unsure of the spin, are out of position to make a strong shot effectively, maybe you are uncomfortable with a certain ball... whatever... there are many times at our amature levels we do not attack the ball. This doesn't mean that we bump it back and make an error or make it easy for opponent to attack decisively. You did that a LOT in your matches and it cost you a lot of points.
 
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If we meet early enough, i'll give you a beer handicap. Normally in Korea, if a higher level player plays a lower level one, he has to give handicap points. You know this, but I write for the benefit of everyone on the forum. I play strong div 3 city level in Seoul and div 2 regional, so If I play vs a div 5 seoul city player, I have to cough up a 3 point handicap.

In my proposed system of beer handicap, we both kill two 500 ml draft beers each during a 30 minute warmup. If I am higher rated, I must drink another beer or two, or if way higher level, a 3rd. This must be accomplished within 30 minutes after the warm-up. This gives recovery time to the lower rated player. Then, we go to the table and play the match.

That means I might have to kill 5 beers in one hour and go right to a match. That sounds kinda unfair, eh. That's alright. Maybe yes, prolly no. Lots of Koreans have played TT with me and in the after-TT meal, tried the macho beer ONE-SHOT thing with me many times in a row and all it does is get the Korean dude trying that too drunk to make it to the restroom. I allow them a few attempts at this, watch them get buzzed, then I drop the hammer on them and challenge them to a few 500 ml ONE-SHOT. Usually, one or two of this is enough to make them regret, but some of the macho crowd can withstand an additional 5 one-shots. The bigger they are, the harder they fall I say.

I can give up a 3 beer handicap without dropping my level of play much, so watch out. I might even play better for a spell as there are no worries and a funner atmosphere.

Having said all this, I do not think our friend Firdaus is into the beer drinking thing, so I proposed to meetup with him for coffee instead.

Either way, we will get together Friday as friends and have a blast doing whatever we do. I will never impose any ways on you or Firdaus, but I will be ready for whatever.

haha, it would be so funny if Firdaus, who claims to be an average player, it would be a blast if he is an average top amature and kills us both haha.
 
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To get back to your original post, if I could tell you only ONE area to improve, I would say the MIDDLE GAME.

At our amature levels, many opponents are not 100% success attacking and a very sound middle game defeats them.

Why do we not focus on this? well, middle game is not very sexy or fun or exciting. However, it is absolutely important on many levels.
 
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I cannot tell you how many times I have been defeated by an opponent with a much weaker attack than me who had a good middle game.

Yeah, I have the heavy spin and the power shots to finish, but if I did not set them up effectively, then they are not as high percentage.

Also, an opponent with a good middle game sets himself up for much easier chances against an opponent with a weaker middle game.
 
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If we meet early enough, i'll give you a beer handicap. Normally in Korea, if a higher level player plays a lower level one, he has to give handicap points. You know this, but I write for the benefit of everyone on the forum. I play strong div 3 city level in Seoul and div 2 regional, so If I play vs a div 5 seoul city player, I have to cough up a 3 point handicap.
That's fair enough ^^ I think you play at same level with my coach or so, and he is giving me 6 points handicap lol.. But the thing is that he already known how I play and where my weakness is, so have you probably :D Anyhow, Im happy with 3 points kkk

In my proposed system of beer handicap, we both kill two 500 ml draft beers each during a 30 minute warmup. If I am higher rated, I must drink another beer or two, or if way higher level, a 3rd. This must be accomplished within 30 minutes after the warm-up. This gives recovery time to the lower rated player. Then, we go to the table and play the match.

That means I might have to kill 5 beers in one hour and go right to a match. That sounds kinda unfair, eh. That's alright. Maybe yes, prolly no. Lots of Koreans have played TT with me and in the after-TT meal, tried the macho beer ONE-SHOT thing with me many times in a row and all it does is get the Korean dude trying that too drunk to make it to the restroom. I allow them a few attempts at this, watch them get buzzed, then I drop the hammer on them and challenge them to a few 500 ml ONE-SHOT. Usually, one or two of this is enough to make them regret, but some of the macho crowd can withstand an additional 5 one-shots. The bigger they are, the harder they fall I say.

I can give up a 3 beer handicap without dropping my level of play much, so watch out. I might even play better for a spell as there are no worries and a funner atmosphere.
Oh man, it sounds so crazy hahaha, never tried this before and definitely want to experience for the first time ever tomorrow, CAN'T WAIT haha.. But I wonder, if we all follow your beer handicap rules, how can we warm up for the game? after beer warm up as well? You seem to be really tough dude haha

Having said all this, I do not think our friend Firdaus is into the beer drinking thing, so I proposed to meetup with him for coffee instead.
He text me that he may get there together with me 'coz he will be at lotte for whole afternoon. I will confirm tomorrow and let you know. Probably I will be there around 1900, hopefully earlier..

Regarding all your comments and advices, can't say how much I'd appreciate it and can't wait for meeting tomorrow. I am still preparing for the seminar presenting early tomorrow and will read carefully again every single point to discuss in further or adding into my practice schemes
 
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That's all cool Bryce. I do know if I am NOT in the area of level the average Korean coach, who are usually ex-pros or at the very least top amature players.

Tell Firdaus that if he can not find the place exactly, but get close, to take a taxi and call you or me when he is close to the susaek. He pay for the taxi, I'll pay for the premium coffee.

If you were all coming up to Uijeongbu, I'd brew you all the cappuccino myself, as I have all the expensive equipment and am also a Barista and Chef. (not by profession, but by serious hobby)

As for being tough, we guys, don't we all look at ourselves, size us up, and consider us to be tough? One can talk tough, but in real life might not back it up, so judge for yourself. It is cool to be "tough" but it isn't everything in life. Besides, there are ALWAYS tougher dudes around, especially tougher TT opponents here in Korea. I do very well for the short time I have played here in Korea, but don't think I am as bad-ass like some of the coaches you see here. I am regional div 2 and that is it. Majority of coaches here give such a level a 4 point handicap and cat/mouse toy with them.

When I comment on a vid when someone asks for comments, I try to keep it at a level that makes sense to them for their level or the one above. I try not to get into complicated strategies for you, that scheize will come later when you grow more. Whatever I said was simple and not a national secret of TT.

You got my number, so call me if you get your azz in a crack. (that is an American expression for "if you get into some trouble")
 
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After looking at Vid #1 again, I got to say "Work on your backhand"

Your backhand cost you a lot of points. An opponent could have pushed to your FH and expected to lose only 30% of the points, but if he push to your BH, he will not lose the point from that push as you successfully attacked zero balls on BH and maybe one or two step around FH shots. A wise opponent could push wide angle to your FH, then push to your BH and point is either over or opponent gets an easy chance to finish given the current state of your BH.

If you could get your BH even 1/2 as consistant as Rainer87 (fellow TTD Poster who posts a match vid thread), then you give your opponent something to worry about, even if it isn't money all the time. Just the threat of a strong spinny BH makes opponents careful about giving you a ball to that side.
 
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After playing a match with you at the club in person, I have to say your inclination to go for the FH shot will help you out in the future when you are several levels higher in your play. Right now, it only helps you when you get the best of chances. Sometimes, you created that chance with your middle game shot. You also seemed to change the amount of spin on some of your shots and that will always get you some points. When you learn how to stay at the table and block, you will get some more points, more than trying to block away from table. You seemed to pick up how to use power (CAPITAL LETTERS... LESS POWER) when counterlooping and you got the timing down pretty quick. You created some cool loops of your own in our drill we had. remember the 1-2-3 blocking system, it will work for you all the way to div 2.

I have to say again to look at the first list, it is a good short list of stuff to improve.

I hope you can make yourself more chances to train while in Korea.

See you again friend.
 
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After seeing you twice I can say you like to play a pro-style attacking game, but your tools are not yet developed enough to play that way. Still yet, you correctly want to attack first and that is important if you can make that chance for yourself.

I have covered some, but repeat those for effect. Some are new topics.

Slow down. You try to play too fast and are not yet ready for that, but keep up that mentality fro the future when your skills allow you to play faster.

Play quicker. What??? Didn't I just advise to slow down and now I am saying to be quicker? Yes. I am. Indeed. when you decide not to attack, you need to move to the ball and impact it right away. You need to make your decisions earlier, but do it calmly, almost sub-consciously. If the ball does not look right or your confidence is not there, there is nothing wrong with stepping in and giving the ball back. The intent is not just to bump it back and make life easy, but to get back a ball you can manage and attack with more confidence and higher percentage. Sometimes, you have to trust your attack and let go with your shot whether it goes in or not, because not every shot everyone tries lands. However, if it is not there why play high risk? decide early, step in, impact the ball right away off the bounce and place it either short, or to the three GOOD zones (WIDE FH/BH or middle playing elbow). You will very likely see your opponent attempt a very low percentage shot which you have a very good chance to block for a point, you will see opponent miss the shot, or you will see opponent surprised and decide to make an emergency underspin return. You are ready to attack for spin, power, placement or all the above to win the point or setup the finish. sometimes you are away from the table and simply do not want to make a powerloop as it will be lower percentage. You decide early what you want to do and give back a light topspin very low. It goes low over net, lands, kicks, troubles opponent, and opponent gives you back a much easier ball to resume the attack.

Stay on balance and use a shorter backswing. What, give up power? Well, if the ball is there for a sure finish, why not use full power? if it can come back, it will and you need to be ready to continue attacking. Once you learn how to use your legs and hips to start the power, this will become easier if you follow anne's advice and stay low bending your knees some. this helps the lateral movement as well. Often with us amature players who have a career or are full time students busy in life, we do not have the fitness of energy for this. Try best you can. Try to make it a habit over time and it will reward you.

On easy finishing shots, do NOT make a huge backswing. This is a huge mistake amature players make. instead, keep your racket at ball high, step forward, and hit through the ball using the arm swing along with body momentum. The forward momentum gives you the power to use just your arm and still make a powerful shot that will be a winner. it is about control here and a huge backswing wrecks the balance and timing. You will see this time and time again in club play in Korea. Sometimes, I deliberately pop up a ball to see if opponent can move to it and hit with control. Often, I get a free point and am the one snickering as we add a point to our score.

Start BH shot from your chest and keep racket up at start of stroke vs knuckle or topspin
. using a bad swing plane will get you in trouble. keep tip of racket up for a control ball that Koreans call SHOT. Tilt the tip to your left to use more wrist to add spin. cock the wrist for even more spin when your timing is better. Start stroke at chest. be in position. it is difficult to land the BH when out of position. Move forward and adjust with bat angle. Remember if you have a fast ball coming to your BH and you need to counter it, stay low, take a step with your left foot if ball is to your wide BH and move side/forward, then keep tip up and hit through ball going forward. You will often land a winner. The BH is a very quick shot makes it difficult to determine direction. You do not need much of a backswing as you start from your chest vs topspin or knuckle. You lost a lot of point by not using the BH as at least a stable, steady shot to get chances to use your FH. Often the point was over when you tried to use your BH, or you decide for a higher risk step around FH. keep your options open and play slowly, but quickly on BH.

Practice serving. I cannot say this strongly enough for you. You have the service motion, but not enough variety of depths, breaks and placements with the same motion. When you can change your serves some more, you will be a TON more effective. You will also be able to read serves a little better if you know how to serve effectively.

Practice pushing underspin both short and long with your partner. you both need to learn to take the ball early and use a loose wrist for short control or to add spin to make it go fast and long. yes, practicing a strong topspin attack is nice, but at the amature levels in Korea, you will win more points by being able to control the ball on shots you decide not to attack. it is all about controlling opponents' options and rushing them into a mistake or causing them to give you a more favorable ball. When we played doubles, I was able to set you up for some really easy finishes when I returned serve. usually, the advantage is the server's advantage. In Korea amature level, if you can make a good underspin, either short, or very sudden/deep, the opponent will time and time again give you a much easier ball to work with. That is why you got those nice chances to attack. I knew all the LP lady would do if I pushed fast and deep zero or light spin to her LP was that she would bump it back. since the ball was fast and deep, it was very difficult for her to return short, so she gave you many predictable knuckle balls long to open your attack, which you were very ready, and made a strong topspin that 99% of time won the point. That is one of the ways to make the middle game work for you. If you are able to return the underspin serve short, what will the J-Pen attacking lady do? She has no choice but to attack it for a lost point, or give the ball back to you, often long, so you can attack. That is the power of good touch and control on your non-attacking shots. they win points or set them up. The more you use this to your advantage, the more weapons you have to win. When you get better, you will need every one of them!

Reading spin. That brings up the point with reading spin. That is a skill that improves as you increase in level, but why not practice it and increase your level? One effective way to read spin is to practice pushing back and forth and have partner randomly change the amount of spin form zero to heavy. You or partner practice stepping to ball and taking it early with loose wrist to return short or long/fast/deep. Any error you make will show, especially on the short returns. You misread the spin and you will net the ball or pop it up next to net, an easy point for opponent and instant feedback if you properly read the spin. that is why it is so important not to just play matches at the club, but find something, even if it is easy to work on.

That is enough for now, but we'll keep talking Brice and maybe you can come up to Uijeongbu soon to my local club.

Maybe we talk about equipment next.
 
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