Did someone write that Hayata was good against non-CNT players?
早田居然还在绝对主力层，感觉她皇了三个周期 (
It’s surprising Hayata is still among the core players—it feels like she’s been royal for three Olympic cycles)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/11129213993
⛷️笑看人生 没关注乒乓有一段时间，中间只断断续续看了赛果，昨天看了女团决赛发现她居然还是绝对主力，反观她的两个小青梅平野伊藤现在已经淡出主力层了。
从里约周期开始看球，她好像一直都很受重用，好像好多年前就参加了世乒赛，还是协会强烈推荐的。以前让她和伊藤配女双，伊藤带她拿了几块大赛奖牌。现在让她和张本美和配，基本锁定一个奥运资格，所以双削想一起上奥运基本是不可能了。虽然是左手，但石川佳纯好像没有她的待遇？听日粉说她的俱乐部很牛，估计是这个原因？
同样我在19年就在关注佐藤瞳桥本两个，尤其是佐藤瞳双杀了dn让我印象深刻，佐藤瞳好像因为yq错失了一届世乒赛，现在她们两个打出来也是感慨万分，真希望她们两个能多点参加大赛，削球手这些年真的不容易。
IP属地:广东来自iPhone客户端1楼2026-10-23 09:44回复
(I haven’t followed table tennis closely for a while—only catching the occasional result here and there—but watching the women’s team final yesterday, I was surprised to see that she remains a core player. In contrast, her two childhood friends, Hirano and Ito, have effectively faded from the top tier.
Ever since I started following the sport during the Rio Olympic cycle, she has consistently been given significant opportunities; it feels like she was competing in the World Championships ages ago, having been strongly backed by the association even back then. She used to be paired with Ito in women’s doubles, where Ito helped her secure several medals at major tournaments.
Now, she’s paired with Harimoto Miwa—a partnership that all but guarantees an Olympic spot—which effectively rules out the possibility of double chopper making it to the Olympics together. Even though Ishikawa Kasumi was also a left-hander, she never seemed to receive the same level of support. I’ve heard from fans of Japan that her club is incredibly influential—perhaps that’s the reason?
I’ve also been keeping an eye on Sato Hitomi and Hashimoto since 2019—I was particularly struck when Sato Hitomi defeated Ding Ning twice. It’s a shame that Sato missed a World Championships due to the pandemic. Seeing them both break through now is quite moving; I truly hope they get more chances to compete in major events—it hasn’t been easy for choppers in recent years.)
⛷️笑看人生 而且我觉得早田希娜完全没有伊藤平野张本甚至双削的威胁，她真的是吃了时代红利，wtt限制参赛人数所以她的排名一直很高，要是放在公开赛年代，可说不好
IP属地:广东来自iPhone客户端2楼2026-10-23 09:46收起回复
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Furthermore, I feel that Hayata Hina is absolutely not a threat at all compared to Ito, Hirano, Harimoto or even the double chopper. She really benefited from dividends of the era. The WTT limited the number of participants, so her ranking remained consistently high. If it were during the Open era, things might be different)
自由的风19990: 她内战厉害阿 现在日女敢说能吃她的 也就小张本
2026-10-23 17:32回复
(She's formidable in civil wars. Right now, the only JPN woman who dares to say she can defeat her is Little Harimoto.)
陳靜（奧運之神版） 现在早田希娜打其他协会还是特别稳的，就是一遇到国乒就输
IP属地:四川来自Android客户端9楼2026-10-23 10:12收起回复
(Hayata Hina is still remarkably consistent against players from other associations, but whenever she faces the CNT, she ends up losing)
右鞋左穿DSSQJ: 日女主力谁容易输其他协会女线不就中日有竞争力吗
2026-10-23 13:06回复
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Which of the top JPN women's players is prone to losing? Among all the associations, aren't CHN and JPN the only ones competitive?)
我是shui: 不是中满才输申裕斌吗？
2026-10-23 16:07回复
(Didn't she just lose to Shin Yubin at CHN GS?)
水刺床: 稳啥？这个周期她已经输了斯佐科斯、朱芊曦、李恩惠、阿库拉、申裕斌、郑怡静（×2），周期刚一半这就输7次了。东京周期石川也是和早田现在差不多的年龄，远没她输这么多，18年一整年石川才只输了1次外战
2026-10-24 01:10回复
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Consistent how? In this current Olympic cycle, she has already lost to Szőcs, Joo Cheonhui, Lee Eunhye, Akula, Shin Yubin, and Cheng I-Ching (x2)—that’s 7 losses, and we’re only halfway through the cycle. Back in the Tokyo Olympic cycle, Ishikawa was around the same age as Hayata is now, yet she had nowhere near this many losses; in fact, throughout the entire year of 2018, Ishikawa only suffered a single defeat in foreign wars)
海之鹡鸰 上限伊藤最高 共突破次主力以上13人次 然后是美和 目前也是13人次 快超伊藤了 就是大赛表现还差一些 而且多数是迪同蒯的记录 然后是平野 之后是福原爱 石川和早田上限最低 论次数早田最少 但是突破过陈梦一次 石川大赛没突破过
下限直接算除国乒外的胜率（对国乒也就是外战胜率 我把国乒的数据也加进来做参考）
梦≥莎＞＞鱼＞＞＞＞美和＞迪同＞＞蒯＞＞早田＞伊藤＞石川＞＞陈熠＞平野＞＞＞福原爱
IP属地:广东来自Android客户端25楼2026-10-23 14:30收起回复
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Ito has the highest ceiling, having defeated 13 second-tier and above CNT players. Miwa follows, also with 13 wins and she is on the verge of surpassing Ito, though her performance in major tournaments still leaves something to be desired, and many of her wins are against Di and Tong. Next is Hirano, followed by Fukuhara Ai. Ishikawa and Hayata have the lowest ceiling. Hayata has the fewest wins, yet she has overcome Chen Meng once, whereas Ishikawa has never done so in a major tournament.
For their floor—assessed based on their overall win rate against non-CNT players (win rate for CNT players against non-CNT players have been included here for reference):
Meng ≥ Sha >> Yu >>>> Miwa > Di/Tong >> Kuai >> Hayata > Ito > Ishikawa >> Chen Yi > Hirano >>> Fukuhara Ai)
海之鹡鸰: 也就是说早田其实就是下限更高一点的石川 只是生在了一个好时代
2026-10-23 14:34回复
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In other words, Hayata is essentially an Ishikawa with a slightly higher floor—she just happened to be born in a good era)
贴吧用户_J11tNKV: 回复 海之鹡鸰 :石川那个时代国乒实力太强了，即使是这样她也赢过陈梦和孙颖莎。早田生在好时代所以单打成绩比石川好，但实力还真比不上石川
2026-10-23 17:15回复
(During Ishikawa’s era, the CNT was too strong; yet, even so, she managed to secure wins against both Chen Meng and Sun Yingsha.
Hayata came along in a good era, which is why her singles results have been better than Ishikawa’s—but in terms of raw ability, she really doesn’t measure up to Ishikawa)
水刺床: 我怎么感觉整体来看早田下限没那么高，洛杉矶周期她输了斯佐科斯、朱芊曦、李恩惠、阿库拉、申裕斌、郑怡静（×2），周期刚一半这就输7次了。东京周期石川也是和早田现在差不多的年龄，远没她输这么多，18年一整年石川才只输了1次外战
2026-10-24 01:09回复
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It seems to me that, overall, Hayata’s floor isn’t actually that high. In the current Los Angeles Olympic cycle, she has already lost to Szőcs, Joo Cheonhui, Lee Eunhye, Akula, Shin Yubin, and Cheng I-Ching (x2)—that’s 7 losses and we’re only halfway through the cycle. Back in the Tokyo Olympic cycle, Ishikawa was around the same age that Hayata is now, yet she had nowhere near this many losses; in fact, throughout the entire year of 2018, Ishikawa only suffered a single defeat in foreign wars)
早田整天团体挂0，日乒干看着没法子 (Hayata keeps failing to score in team all day, leaving JNT helpless as they watch on)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/11130982394
