WTT Champions Frankfurt 2026, November 3-8

[pongfugrasshopper]

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[NextLevel]

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Wow, and I thought he couldn't stand the sight of her.... where could I have gotten that impression... how could I think that... hmmm....

 

[zeio]

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#WTT法兰克福冠军赛2026# 🔚

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[Takkyu_wa_inochi]

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#WTT法兰克福冠军赛2026# 🔚

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do those different colors mean anything

 

[NextLevel]

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You mean winning... if they had beaten PRK....

 

[zeio]

do those different colors mean anything

Yes. Only GS (2000 pts), CF (1500) and CS (1000) titles are counted.

GS
Red column for SGP
Green for KSA
Gold for CHN
Gray/Black for USA
Blue for EUR
CF
Red W for MS
Orange for WS
CS
Bluish purple W for MS
Purple for WS

 

[ThePongCommenter]

Wow, and I thought he couldn't stand the sight of her.... where could I have gotten that impression... how could I think that... hmmm....

Did you get that impression from Fraser Riley, who publicly confirmed that Tomo’s sister-someone he is well known to be a very close brother to-and Hayata had indeed fallen out?

Or is this a slight at @zeio having the habit of speculating about players' relationships based on social media posts, while implying that Tomo and Haya actually have a good relationship, using your own speculation over a social media post as evidence? Just want to make sure I have the right read.

 

[NextLevel]

Did you get that impression from Fraser Riley, who publicly confirmed that Tomo’s sister-someone he is well known to be a very close brother to-and Hayata had indeed fallen out?

Or is this a slight at @zeio having the habit of speculating about players' relationships based on social media posts, while implying that Tomo and Haya actually have a good relationship, using your own speculation over a social media post as evidence? Just want to make sure I have the right read.

The latter. Fraser mentioned it in the context of the Hayata camp reaching out to clear the air so that they could play mixed doubles together. Obviously, public relations stunts are never a full indicator of what lies beneath the surface, but again, that they can get along enough to actually take these pictures means that I probably don't understand Japanese culture if the idea was that Tomo disliked her so much he was going to be one enforcing the morality of the incident that occurred with his sister as per @zeio.

 

[JackJohnson]

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Thought this was AI 😂

 

[ThePongCommenter]

The latter. Fraser mentioned it in the context of the Hayata camp reaching out to clear the air so that they could play mixed doubles together. Obviously, public relations stunts are never a full indicator of what lies beneath the surface, but again, that they can get along enough to actually take these pictures means that I probably don't understand Japanese culture if the idea was that Tomo disliked her so much he was going to be one enforcing the morality of the incident that occurred with his sister as per @zeio.

The context of how a podcast host brought it up on a podcast really doesn't matter when Joe and Fraser made it clear that their relationship was in fact strained. Something that some here also dismissed as speculation and now won't move on from even after that speculation turned out to be well-founded.

With that established, I don't see how the idea that her brother that she's close to just might also not like this person is something to take exception to speculation or not, and comes across as just yet another of countless attempts to take any opportunity for a potshot at zeio, unless there's context to zeio's postings that I'm missing.

 

[jonol]

I don't think the perspectives are mutually exclusive.

Tomo was likely pretty pissed off about the whole thing when it initially happened, but he's probably mostly over it by this point anyway.

 

[ThePongCommenter]

I don't think the perspectives are mutually exclusive.

Tomo was likely pretty pissed off about the whole thing when it initially happened, but he's probably mostly over it by this point anyway.

I don't care about how Tomo feels about Hayata, if I really cared I'd ask some of my friends who are in the same WTT circles as them. The point is that it is annoying AF for me and clearly others to read this endless back and forth of "my speculation is better than your speculation even though I condemn you for how you speculate even though I speculate in the same way".

 

[jonol]

I don't care about how Tomo feels about Hayata, if I really cared I'd ask some of my friends who are in the same WTT circles as them. The point is that it is annoying AF for me and clearly others to read this endless back and forth of "my speculation is better than your speculation even though I condemn you for how you speculate even though I speculate in the same way".

Agreed

 

[NextLevel]

The context of how a podcast host brought it up on a podcast really doesn't matter when Joe and Fraser made it clear that their relationship was in fact strained. Something that some here also dismissed as speculation and now won't move on from even after that speculation turned out to be well-founded.

With that established, I don't see how the idea that her brother that she's close to just might also not like this person is something to take exception to speculation or not, and comes across as just yet another of countless attempts to take any opportunity for a potshot at zeio, unless there's context to zeio's postings that I'm missing.

If it was framed as a "might", half of these things would hardly be debated. The context you are missing is that this was cited as more evidence of the villainous nature of Hayata, who has been framed depending on the context as conniving, dumb, lying, overtraining, unable to manage her health etc. Just being reasonably speculative fans is no longer enough. Hayata clearly cheated against Miwa and her teammates and is using the edges gained from such cheating to cement her spot on the Olympic team. And her teammates know but have no choice but to play and dance with her regardless. That is some of the context you are missing. Based on all the internal drama betweeb the Harimotos and Hayata, I get a WTT mandated selfie but a choreographed dance for the fans? You can educate me for sure. Even I am now beginning to believe it was orchestrated by Hayata.

 

[Takkyu_wa_inochi]

If it was framed as a "might", half of these things would hardly be debated. The context you are missing is that this was cited as more evidence of the villainous nature of Hayata, who has been framed depending on the context as conniving, dumb, lying, overtraining, unable to manage her health etc. Just being reasonably speculative fans is no longer enough. Hayata clearly cheated against Miwa and her teammates and is using the edges gained from such cheating to cement her spot on the Olympic team. And her teammates know but have no choice but to play and dance with her regardless. That is some of the context you are missing. Based on all the internal drama betweeb the Harimotos and Hayata, I get a WTT mandated selfie but a choreographed dance for the fans? You can educate me for sure. Even I am now beginning to believe it was orchestrated by Hayata.

What cheating exactly

 

[NextLevel]

What cheating exactly

Taking a medical timeout to get a massage from her physio and coach in a match with Miwa who didn't have her coach because it was WTT and they were both Japanese.

 

[NextLevel]

I don't care about how Tomo feels about Hayata, if I really cared I'd ask some of my friends who are in the same WTT circles as them. The point is that it is annoying AF for me and clearly others to read this endless back and forth of "my speculation is better than your speculation even though I condemn you for how you speculate even though I speculate in the same way".

Spend about 50% if the time you have dedicated to resolving this issue to getting zeio to stop recycling opinionated Tieba posts on this forum. That will go a long way towards stopping all this if successful. But i am open to other solutions if you have them.

Since you think this is a game of speculation and there is no distinction between just talking about your favorite players and making them out to be fatsos, dumb, useless etc. especially on a Western forum, we can agree to disagree.

 

[ThePongCommenter]

Spend about 50% if the time you have dedicated to resolving this issue to getting zeio to stop recycling opinionated Tieba posts on this forum. That will go a long way towards stopping all this if successful. But i am open to other solutions if you have them.

Since you think this is a game of speculation and there is no distinction between just talking about your favorite players and making them out to be fatsos, dumb, useless etc. especially on a Western forum, we can agree to disagree.

The time, as in like 2 DMs and 5 comments? My first solution which was to try to let a dead horse die instead of taking every possible opportunity to re-ignite something, was already ignored clearly.

You're the moderator. He isn't. That's another big distinction.

 

[NextLevel]

The time, as in like 2 DMs and 5 comments? My first solution which was to try to let a dead horse die instead of taking every possible opportunity to re-ignite something, was already ignored clearly.

You're the moderator. He isn't. That's another big distinction.

Okay. You are making a lot of assumptions there. I will leave it at that. Good luck. And 50% is 50%.

 

[ThePongCommenter]

Okay. You are making a lot of assumptions there. I will leave it at that. Good luck.

I can only assume you're suggesting that moderation decisions (or the lack of them) are a collective decision, and that you don't necessarily have the final say in making the call you'd personally like to make. Maybe I'm reading that wrong.

If that's the case, I can appreciate your stance, and I'd genuinely like to hear from the rest of the moderation team (@NDH and whoever else) about their thoughts on this recurring issue. This has been a long-standing point of controversy here, so hearing clearly the current stance would be nice.

Is the mod team unwilling to make a decision and stand by it, despite knowing there will inevitably be some backlash either way? Or has the decision already been made that nothing will be done? If the stance is simply that no action will be taken in particular and everyone is free to carry on as they have been, then I'd like to hear that clearly. At least then I can accept that this is how things are likely to remain.